A good match between the three bros
Post time skip luffy and BOTH sabo and ace have mera mera no mi who do you think takes this
A good match between the three bros
Post time skip luffy and BOTH sabo and ace have mera mera no mi who do you think takes this
Luffy via feats, Sabo via positioning, Ace doesn't win.
We don't know if Ace had Haki or not, he was 2nd division, while Jozu was 3rd and had Haki. Still i think they are about equal, Sabo is cool but just tieing with Fujitora is little to go on
@fist_of_ragnarok: Ace has Haki, he just never learned to control it and use it.
As for the battle, Sabo takes it.
@thevivas: Where in the manga does it say "ace never learned to control it" ? I got a stalemate between Ace and Sabo
@fist_of_ragnarok: He used it once as a kid and then never used it again, but knew he had the ability to.
@thevivas: he manga never said he couldn't control it
Sabo > Ace > Luffy we don't know how good Ace was with Haki, he tied with Aokiji, but i think it was just due to elemental prowess
@fist_of_ragnarok: Never read the manga, just watched the anime. Lol
If he could control it and use it like Luffy can now, though, he probably would've had more showings with it other than when he was a kid and when he did it unconsciously.
@thevivas: ok well i see what you're saying, well i have Sabo at the head cause he's actually went "Toe to Toe" with an admiral
@fist_of_ragnarok: Same here. Lol
@mortein: I can't agree with that ...Sabo without DF ? why did you say that ?
@mortein: I can't agree with that ...Sabo without DF ? why did you say that ?
Yes, I think Sabo was stronger than Luffy even before he ate mera mera no mi, what's so strange about that?
He's second in command in the revolutionary army.
Luffy
not enough feats for sabo
We still have yet to see what Sabo is fully capable of, so Luffy for now.
Is this a joke? Sabo fought with Fujitora, an Admiral. Any admiral would rape Luffy and solo the entire strawhat. Luffy is getting his ass kicked by Doflamingo, the same Doflamingo who got owned by Aokiji
Ace went against Aokiji so lets not undermine Ace here. People only seem to remember him because he sacrificed himself against the most powerful admiral. Ace was still admiral level.
With that being said.
1. Sabo with df
2. Ace
3. Sabo without df
4. Luffy
@soaringturkeys: Aokiji nearly killed Whitebead. You think Aokiji was serious against Ace?
Ace went against Aokiji so lets not undermine Ace here. People only seem to remember him because he sacrificed himself against the most powerful admiral. Ace was still admiral level.
With that being said.
1. Sabo with df
2. Ace
3. Sabo without df
4. Luffy
Ace was not admiral lv., Ace and Aokiji merely clashed with one attack, and that's it, if the fight continued Ace wouldn't last long.
Ace has no feats that would suggest that in terms of speed, durability and strength he was above pre-time skip Luffy, and current Luffy is massively stronger and faster than pre-timeskip Luffy.
He has shown no Kenbunshoku or Busoshoku Haki, and in his fight with Smoker they concluded that they can't hurt each other.
@mortein: Being 2nd in command means little, but hey that's your call bro. I didn't think much of Sabo until he ate that fruit, Sabo's feats were what ? stopping burgess and breaking a ring in half ..i think Sabo without the DF is Ace's level
@josephgomes619: When did Aoikiji nearly kill WB ? please post that manga panel
Luffy
not enough feats for sabo
We still have yet to see what Sabo is fully capable of, so Luffy for now.
Is this a joke? Sabo fought with Fujitora, an Admiral. Any admiral would rape Luffy and solo the entire strawhat. Luffy is getting his ass kicked by Doflamingo, the same Doflamingo who got owned by Aokiji
It is you who is joking. Sabo fought Fujitora, yes, but he still hadn't beaten him yet, Fuji just bailed out, Luffy and the Straw Hats are better than they were 2 years ago, and they have yet to fight the Admirals (Kizaru, and Akainu) as of now,
Aokiji owning Doflamingo? How so? He only stopped Doflamingo from killing Smoker, and Doflamingo didn't intend on fighting Aokiji.
@saiyan_earthling: This is what happened to Doflamingo when he pinned Smoker. Aokiji froze Doffy's ass and Doffy ran away, leaving Smoker behind
This is what happened to Doflamingo when he pinned Smoker. Aokiji froze Doffy's ass and Doffy ran away, leaving Smoker behind
I wouldn't really call that a running away since fighting against Aokiji was pointless at that point and most importantly he had to deal with Law and Luffy as quick as possible so leaving it at that was the best choice for him
@colliderz: He did run away. Aokiji told him not to attack Smoker, but when Doflamingo teased Aokiji froze Doflamingo's body. Doffy's servants were terrified as well. Aokiji could have killed Doffy if he wanted to.
@colliderz: He did run away. Aokiji told him not to attack Smoker, but when Doflamingo teased Aokiji froze Doflamingo's body. Doffy's servants were terrified as well. Aokiji could have killed Doffy if he wanted to.
Well Doffy himself broke out before Aokiji could froze his insides so saying he could have killed him at that point is baseless, I mean Aokiji also froze Whitebeard but he too efortlessly broke out so does that means he could have killed Edward too?
I am not saying Doffy can beat him but by means Aokiji can stomp him too
@colliderz: Jozu saved Whitebeard, otherwise Whitebeard would be in trouble. After Jozu's intervention, Aokiji froze Jozu and beat him. If Aokiji wanted, Doflamingo would be dead. Or at least Doffy would lose an arm or two.
@josephgomes619: No he didnt
@josephgomes619: No he didnt
Who didn't do what?
@saiyan_earthling: Sabo did the minimum vs Fuji, he tied with him at best, zorro did the same vs Fuji by clashing with him
Luffy
not enough feats for sabo
We still have yet to see what Sabo is fully capable of, so Luffy for now.
Is this a joke? Sabo fought with Fujitora, an Admiral. Any admiral would rape Luffy and solo the entire strawhat. Luffy is getting his ass kicked by Doflamingo, the same Doflamingo who got owned by Aokiji
1. those posts were made 9 months ago
2. Aokijis attack did nothing to Dofo, thats not called "owned" and Dofo did not run away
This is what happened to Doflamingo when he pinned Smoker. Aokiji froze Doffy's ass and Doffy ran away, leaving Smoker behind
I wouldn't really call that a running away since fighting against Aokiji was pointless at that point and most importantly he had to deal with Law and Luffy as quick as possible so leaving it at that was the best choice for him
this
Dofo would have gained nothing (besides trouble) by fighting Aokiji
The mera mera no mi has not been impressive. it doesn't workon Smoker, Aokiji, Sakazuki, and I bet Caesar could nullify him completely. Blackbeard tanked direct hits and his darkness power overwhelmed him there too. I doubt the brothers would go in this using fire fists. I think they would just duke it out. In a fist fight... I would give it to Ace. ( Unless Luffy goes g4 which I doubt he would do)
Luffy by feats
Not sure how powerful Ace was
Sabo also kind of an unknown but he took care of Burgess with lil diff
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