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#1 Posted by bgibs13390 (783 posts) - - Show Bio

Rune Lord Thor

Vs 
Skyfather Hercules  

Hercules think that by killing Thor he will stop the Chaos King. Thor thinks that by killing Herc he will be able to stop the cycle of  Ragnarok. 
  
Thor has his hammer.  
 
Win by KO or death. 
#2 Posted by ssejllenrad (12792 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Skyfather Herc as ruthless as RKT?

#3 Posted by bgibs13390 (783 posts) - - Show Bio

Well he took out his own father.

#4 Posted by difficlus (10678 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn..gonna have to go with Skyfather herc thought it would be a close fight no doubt...

#5 Posted by ssejllenrad (12792 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm... Tough call... I choose neither. It's the coward's way out! :D

#6 Posted by bgibs13390 (783 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor did kill everyone he knows though so he is ruthless also.

#7 Posted by CaptinAwesome (317 posts) - - Show Bio

the universe implodes and nobody wins.

#8 Posted by tensor (3517 posts) - - Show Bio

hercules

#9 Posted by God_Spawn (36011 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm idk ill say Thor but my opinion can be changed
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#10 Posted by Star_Lord (369 posts) - - Show Bio
Skyfather Herc hasn't done sh!t. Thor wins.
#11 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - - Show Bio

Going with thor

#12 Posted by Random Bucket (539 posts) - - Show Bio

Skyfather Herc has gained powers in the last issue of Chaos Wars which supposedly puts him near Chaos Kings power level (well enough to challenge him). In that same issue it is said that like 98.76% of the multiverse was already destroyed by the Chaos King so unless RKT can stand up to a mutliversal being he's not beating Herc.
#13 Posted by goldenshot80 (7349 posts) - - Show Bio
@CaptinAwesome:  I'll think  ill agree with you
#14 Posted by Emerald_General_Jai (2306 posts) - - Show Bio
@Random Bucket said:
" Skyfather Herc has gained powers in the last issue of Chaos Wars which supposedly puts him near Chaos Kings power level (well enough to challenge him). In that same issue it is said that like 98.76% of the multiverse was already destroyed by the Chaos King so unless RKT can stand up to a mutliversal being he's not beating Herc. "
An there it is. That's kind of the most basic explanation at the moment. 
#15 Posted by termiteone4ever (6693 posts) - - Show Bio

Herc got this
#16 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio

For me, there is a posibility of a tie, both are STUPIDLY powerful, there is no way to know who can win this.

#17 Posted by PowerHerc (78172 posts) - - Show Bio
@Random Bucket said:
"Skyfather Herc has gained powers in the last issue of Chaos Wars which supposedly puts him near Chaos Kings power level (well enough to challenge him). In that same issue it is said that like 98.76% of the multiverse was already destroyed by the Chaos King so unless RKT can stand up to a mutliversal being he's not beating Herc. "

This.
#18 Posted by Inevitable (709 posts) - - Show Bio
@Star_Lord said:
" Skyfather Herc hasn't done sh!t. Thor wins. "
#19 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16629 posts) - - Show Bio
@PowerHerc said:
" @Random Bucket said:
"Skyfather Herc has gained powers in the last issue of Chaos Wars which supposedly puts him near Chaos Kings power level (well enough to challenge him). In that same issue it is said that like 98.76% of the multiverse was already destroyed by the Chaos King so unless RKT can stand up to a mutliversal being he's not beating Herc. "
This. "
Probably yes, but I would like to see what will happen in next CW.
#20 Posted by CaptainRodgers (1656 posts) - - Show Bio

 
I'm completely undecided . 
Skyfather Herc has less feats on one side. 
   @Random Bucket: Put forward a very good arguement though . 
 
There both my joint favorites probably so its a completely unbiases arguement, right now i'm gonna say RKT. 
 
Is Herc alot more powerful than Zeus ? 
Is RTK alot more powerful than Odin ? 
 
Lets say Odin and Zeus are about equal (i know its debatable that its Odin etc. but if either is they're not by much so .) Whoever is stronger than their father byu most is probably more powerful. 
 
This is a great fight ,Let the debate go on i am open to swaying .    
#21 Posted by Hellos (8838 posts) - - Show Bio
@Random Bucket said:
"Skyfather Herc has gained powers in the last issue of Chaos Wars which supposedly puts him near Chaos Kings power level (well enough to challenge him). In that same issue it is said that like 98.76% of the multiverse was already destroyed by the Chaos King so unless RKT can stand up to a mutliversal being he's not beating Herc. "

Holy crap they made Chaos King absurdly more powerful than I originally thought he was.
#22 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16629 posts) - - Show Bio
@CaptainRodgers said:
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   @Random Bucket: Put forward a very good arguement though . 
 
There both my joint favorites probably so its a completely unbiases arguement, right now i'm gonna say RKT. 
 
Is Herc alot more powerful than Zeus ? 
Is RTK alot more powerful than Odin ? 
 
Lets say Odin and Zeus are about equal (i know its debatable that its Odin etc. but if either is they're not by much so .) Whoever is stronger than their father byu most is probably more powerful. 
 
This is a great fight ,Let the debate go on i am open to swaying .     "
1.Herc > Zeus
2.RKT > Odin
3.Zeus = Odin. 
4.We currently don't know too much about Current Herc, but if he is going to defeat Chaos King, he will be Multiversal threat. RKT is IMO only in Elder God level (Abstracts > Galactus > Elder Gods > Skyfathers = Galaxy Busters).
#23 Posted by MarvelJackAss433 (12238 posts) - - Show Bio
@Inevitable:
@Star_Lord:

he teleported galactus against his will.
#24 Posted by Random Bucket (539 posts) - - Show Bio
@MarvelJackAss433 said:
"@Inevitable: @Star_Lord: he teleported galactus against his will. "

Oh yeah that's a pretty great feat as well. It takes a pretty powerful person to just teleport Galactus without his premission.
#25 Posted by Hellos (8838 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus honestly didn't seem to care.
#26 Posted by bgibs13390 (783 posts) - - Show Bio

What are RLT best feats compared to Skyfather Herc feats?

#27 Posted by ghostrider fan1 (776 posts) - - Show Bio

RLT has OF right? he can create and destroy a universe with it so i go for RLT

#28 Posted by bgibs13390 (783 posts) - - Show Bio
@ghostrider fan1 said:
" RLT has OF right? he can create and destroy a universe with it so i go for RLT "
Yeah he has OF and on top of that he has the Rune Magic which makes him way more powerful. 
#29 Posted by Mercy_ (92097 posts) - - Show Bio

V_V I really need to read Chaos War. 

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#30 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio

RKT would win. 
Maybe OF Thor would lose.

#31 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16629 posts) - - Show Bio
@ghostrider fan1 said:
" RLT has OF right? he can create and destroy a universe with it so i go for RLT "
Since when? Some scans? Acctually, I belive that Herc will create new universe/multiverse in next Chaos War issue (which is pretty stupid, considering how he and Mikaboshi gained their powers, but...)
 
@Hellos said:
" Galactus honestly didn't seem to care. "

Oh, he cares. He was angry, because they didn't him eat planet. So Galactus will depends on Herc's mood.
#32 Posted by BattleMage (1128 posts) - - Show Bio

RKT

#33 Posted by Star_Lord (369 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" V_V I really need to read Chaos War.  "
Yes you do, good read.@MarvelJackAss433 said:
" @Inevitable: @Star_Lord: he teleported galactus against his will. "
And thats impressive because...
#34 Posted by MarvelJackAss433 (12238 posts) - - Show Bio
@Star_Lord:
why wouldn't it be impressive?
#35 Posted by bgibs13390 (783 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#36 Posted by Thepowercosmic (940 posts) - - Show Bio

im going with RLT but herc is doing some crazy things teleporting Galactus thats crazy sh!t 

#37 Posted by SC (11994 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" V_V I really need to read Chaos War.  "
 
No you don't. Its actually rather a bit of a let down. lol Well, its alright. Herc seems to be made look as dumb as ever. Hopefully the last issue is awesome.  
 
 
 
I give this thread's win to RK Thor,  but power doesn't even enter the equation. Herc is shown to be way too incompetent even with such a boost of power, you'd think a bit of wisdom and intelligence might be a part of the package and those three items Hali and Cho gathered had that much juice? Why the hell is everyone dicking around with Infinity Gems for then. RK Thor n the hand was impressive because of how wise, calm and all knowing he seemed. I am sure Herc will do something in last issue of Chaos War to level things up though. Plus the writers do like having their character of the moment be more deus ex machina than any other character out there. So there's that too.
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#38 Posted by SC (11994 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus also never really imposed his will against Herc teleporting him. What Herc did was impressive, because he tracked, located, and teleported something that might have automatic defenses against general teleportation. Galactus should be immune to such actions and if he isn't, he must have attempted to resist but failed? This example of Hercs power could be potentially impressive, or potentially vanilla. 

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#39 Posted by Mercy_ (92097 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC: I'll probably end up picking up the X-Men tie-in issues of it. 
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#40 Posted by SC (11994 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @SC: I'll probably end up picking up the X-Men tie-in issues of it.  "
 
Oh yeah, I am about to read the first issue of that mini now. ^_^ I can't wait, I hope Wheezy writes the Cuckoos awesomely and will be nice to some of Madrox's dead dupes!  
 
The main story is alright, it just took all the cool and funny things from the incredible hercules run, and replaced it with Dragon Ball Z style constant power upgrading and one upmanship. The tie in issues will probably be much better. 
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#41 Posted by Mercy_ (92097 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC: Very nice. I'll probably pick it up tomorrow when I go to the comic shop. ^_^ I love the Cuckoos and Madrox, so I'm definitely looking forward to it. 
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#42 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

As Heracles was: ignorant but powerful i would say Thor, because Thor gained wisdom as well as power and that i believe would give him a victory over Heracles. However it seems Heracles has rebirthed himself with wisdom now; and i would err on the side of Heracles being more powerful than Rune King Thor.
#43 Posted by Warcry80 (2151 posts) - - Show Bio

Insert powerful feat: In retrospec to power and strength
1. King Herc was powerful enough to do ? 
 
2. Rune King Thor was powerful enough to do ? 
 
Please answer  
1. How did Herc become so powerful, was it by his on means or by a cheest plot device? 
 
2. Can Rune Thor see psychically or astral bodies being that he plucked out his eyes?

#44 Posted by SC (11994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Warcry80 said:
" Insert powerful feat: In retrospec to power and strength1. King Herc was powerful enough to do ?  2. Rune King Thor was powerful enough to do ?  Please answer  1. How did Herc become so powerful, was it by his on means or by a cheest plot device?  2. Can Rune Thor see psychically or astral bodies being that he plucked out his eyes? "
 
Powerful enough to empower a number of Earth's heroes to be able to fly and breathe in space. Teleport Galactus of note, and also many other characters to where he wanted them to be, his location. Unintentionally causes Earth quakes just by being, in a fit started smacking around some other godheads/sky fathers, but they didn't really seem to be fighting back, maybe out of surprise or because they are a bit stuffy. Word of god aka the writer, has stated he is the most powerful skyfather ever. Though many tend to take issue with this particular word of gods statements and opinions. Recently we also discovered Hercules wasn't using his powers to the fullest, so there is probably more to come in issue 5 of Chaos War.  
 
Thor. Thor stopped the Ragnorak cycle which meant going against the Ones Who Sit in the Shadow and Look Imposing Because The Color Scheme Is Inverted So It Looks Like They Are On Black Paper And Their Outlines Are Made Out Of White Ink, who couldn't stop him. He casually blocked Mangog's attacks, and undid him, feeling sorry for him, instead of hurting him. He plucked Loki's head off and carried around as a talking purse. I think he made Surtur to wet himself as well, I think. (aha its funny because he is a fire demon) 
 
Herc was kinda by plot device. Vali and Cho and Thor gathered various items from myth combined them, Cho got über powerful and gave that power to Herc. 
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#45 Posted by Snickersss (253 posts) - - Show Bio

mehh I'll go with Thor on this. He is stronger in the first place and then they both get an about equal strength increase, so he would still be stronger. 
 
#46 Posted by bgibs13390 (783 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor is lacking in feats so its hard to say but it does state that he is way more powerful then Odin and he seems a lot wiser and has much greater control over his power so I give it to Thor. 

#47 Posted by Greendevil (1873 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor. He is not only all powerful, but also very wise. I love Herc, but he is a brute with sky-level powers. Thor has all that and more.
#48 Posted by PowerHerc (78172 posts) - - Show Bio

Hercules does come off as the veritable "bull in a China shop" but this level of power he's been granted is far beyond anything any Earthy god from any and all pantheons has ever had.  He now has power that puts him on the same level as Eternity and other such abstracts, thus putting him above Rune King Thor.   
 
In their classic forms, Hercules and Thor were close in strength (with Hercules slightly stronger,imo), but Thor was easily more powerful overall because of his weapon and elemental powers.  Rune King Thor was amped by receiving the Odin-force and then even more wisdom through greater sacrifice than Odin.  This power-level seems to have been above Odin's and thus sky-father level, but not as high as the 'abstract' level Hercules is currently at.    
 
Hercules wins this because he is far more powerful than RKT. 

#49 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio

I say Herc wins. However, both are still powerful and have impressive scans.
#50 Posted by Warcry80 (2151 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC said:
" @Warcry80 said:
" Insert powerful feat: In retrospec to power and strength1. King Herc was powerful enough to do ?  2. Rune King Thor was powerful enough to do ?  Please answer  1. How did Herc become so powerful, was it by his on means or by a cheest plot device?  2. Can Rune Thor see psychically or astral bodies being that he plucked out his eyes? "
 Powerful enough to empower a number of Earth's heroes to be able to fly and breathe in space. Teleport Galactus of note, and also many other characters to where he wanted them to be, his location. Unintentionally causes Earth quakes just by being, in a fit started smacking around some other godheads/sky fathers, but they didn't really seem to be fighting back, maybe out of surprise or because they are a bit stuffy. Word of god aka the writer, has stated he is the most powerful skyfather ever. Though many tend to take issue with this particular word of gods statements and opinions. Recently we also discovered Hercules wasn't using his powers to the fullest, so there is probably more to come in issue 5 of Chaos War.   Thor. Thor stopped the Ragnorak cycle which meant going against the Ones Who Sit in the Shadow and Look Imposing Because The Color Scheme Is Inverted So It Looks Like They Are On Black Paper And Their Outlines Are Made Out Of White Ink, who couldn't stop him. He casually blocked Mangog's attacks, and undid him, feeling sorry for him, instead of hurting him. He plucked Loki's head off and carried around as a talking purse. I think he made Surtur to wet himself as well, I think. (aha its funny because he is a fire demon)  Herc was kinda by plot device. Vali and Cho and Thor gathered various items from myth combined them, Cho got über powerful and gave that power to Herc.  "

Thanks for the INFO! LMAO about Surtur wetting himself!!!! Plucking off Loki's head for a talking purse is classic!.