@justleader said:
Galactus has never been shown to be omniversal, not even close, he is a universal being.
He apparently was during Mc2 non-canon universe, where he has acutally outperformed LT in durability.
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
Thor wins barely
Нема шансе Галактус би победио и ову верзију Тор-a ! :D
Ма деее, Один може да се носи са Галактусом, Рунски Тор је јачи од Одина много, а још има и појас и разарача, једино је проблем што је Галактус сит скроз хаха :D
@Killemall said:
@justleader said:
Galactus has never been shown to be omniversal, not even close, he is a universal being.
He apparently was during Mc2 non-canon universe, where he has acutally outperformed LT in durability.
Do you have any scans?
@BigCimmerian said:
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
Thor wins barely
Нема шансе Галактус би победио и ову верзију Тор-a ! :D
Ма деее, Один може да се носи са Галактусом, Рунски Тор је јачи од Одина много, а још има и појас и разарача, једино је проблем што је Галактус сит скроз хаха :D
Дал и ти мислиш пошто сам овде негде прочитао да је Рунски Тор Јак као 20 Одина :O ?
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
Thor wins barely
Нема шансе Галактус би победио и ову верзију Тор-a ! :D
Ма деее, Один може да се носи са Галактусом, Рунски Тор је јачи од Одина много, а још има и појас и разарача, једино је проблем што је Галактус сит скроз хаха :D
Дал и ти мислиш пошто сам овде негде прочитао да је Рунски Тор Јак као 20 Одина :O ?
Нема шансе да је баш толико, јачи је отприлике дупло од Одина или можда мало више, али је и много паметнији и мудрији. Требали су Рунског Тора да задрже бар неколико бројева више, тако би сигурно знали :)
@BigCimmerian said:
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
Thor wins barely
Нема шансе Галактус би победио и ову верзију Тор-a ! :D
Ма деее, Один може да се носи са Галактусом, Рунски Тор је јачи од Одина много, а још има и појас и разарача, једино је проблем што је Галактус сит скроз хаха :D
Дал и ти мислиш пошто сам овде негде прочитао да је Рунски Тор Јак као 20 Одина :O ?
Нема шансе да је баш толико, јачи је отприлике дупло од Одина или можда мало више, али је и много паметнији и мудрији. Требали су Рунског Тора да задрже бар неколико бројева више, тако би сигурно знали :)
Ал ајде да узмемо да је јак као 3 Одина ,Один је једино могао да се носи са Галактусом кад је овај био на ивици да цркне од глади.Галактус који је сит је негде да нивоу Вечности зар не ?
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
Thor wins barely
Нема шансе Галактус би победио и ову верзију Тор-a ! :D
Ма деее, Один може да се носи са Галактусом, Рунски Тор је јачи од Одина много, а још има и појас и разарача, једино је проблем што је Галактус сит скроз хаха :D
Дал и ти мислиш пошто сам овде негде прочитао да је Рунски Тор Јак као 20 Одина :O ?
Нема шансе да је баш толико, јачи је отприлике дупло од Одина или можда мало више, али је и много паметнији и мудрији. Требали су Рунског Тора да задрже бар неколико бројева више, тако би сигурно знали :)
Ал ајде да узмемо да је јак као 3 Одина ,Один је једино могао да се носи са Галактусом кад је овај био на ивици да цркне од глади.Галактус који је сит је негде да нивоу Вечности зар не ?
Кад су се сударили главама сад скоро, нигде не пише да је Галактус умирао од глади, претпостављам да је био средње гладан, упореди кад се Галактус борио са 4 Целестиала, лакше су га испеглали него Одина са Разарачем, а против Одина их је било 9. Рекао бих да су Галактус и Рунски Тор ту негде, али можда би Разарач могао да помогне Тору?
@BigCimmerian said:
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
@Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
Thor wins barely
Нема шансе Галактус би победио и ову верзију Тор-a ! :D
Ма деее, Один може да се носи са Галактусом, Рунски Тор је јачи од Одина много, а још има и појас и разарача, једино је проблем што је Галактус сит скроз хаха :D
Дал и ти мислиш пошто сам овде негде прочитао да је Рунски Тор Јак као 20 Одина :O ?
Нема шансе да је баш толико, јачи је отприлике дупло од Одина или можда мало више, али је и много паметнији и мудрији. Требали су Рунског Тора да задрже бар неколико бројева више, тако би сигурно знали :)
Ал ајде да узмемо да је јак као 3 Одина ,Один је једино могао да се носи са Галактусом кад је овај био на ивици да цркне од глади.Галактус који је сит је негде да нивоу Вечности зар не ?
Кад су се сударили главама сад скоро, нигде не пише да је Галактус умирао од глади, претпостављам да је био средње гладан, упореди кад се Галактус борио са 4 Целестиала, лакше су га испеглали него Одина са Разарачем, а против Одина их је било 9. Рекао бих да су Галактус и Рунски Тор ту негде, али можда би Разарач могао да помогне Тору?
Зар није Галактус пребио једног целестиала па су се онда спојили њих тројица или четворица у једног па су тек онда пребили Галактуса као пичку? А Одина су максимално понизили јел зауставио онај његов бласт из мача руком онај Целестиал какко се зове заборавих...Разарач би му помогао питање је само колико ...
Some people believe
Galactus/abstract
v
cosmic entities
v
elder gods
v
rune king thor
v
skyfathers
when really its
abstract
v
Galactus / cosmic entities
Rune King Thor
v
Elder gods
No point of debating, it's just galactus wank.
@Killemall said:
@justleader said:
Galactus has never been shown to be omniversal, not even close, he is a universal being.
He apparently was during Mc2 non-canon universe, where he has acutally outperformed LT in durability.
Why you would even mention this is beyond me, since it's not even canon.
@throughmyeyez said:
Some people believe
Galactus/abstract
v
cosmic entities
v
elder gods
v
rune king thor
v
skyfathers
when really its
abstract
v
Galactus / cosmic entities
Rune King Thor
v
Elder gods
No point of debating, it's just galactus wank.
Galactus is not with Rune King Thor at full.
@ShootingNova said:
Why you would even mention this is beyond me, since it's not even canon.
you will have to follow my conversation with , perhaps this would help put a context, i never stated it was canon, nor did i pretend otherwise.
@Killemall said:
@logy5000 said:
@throughmyeyez: On a different thread people said Galactus fully fed could stomp Monarch & Superman Prime at the same time. Not that I agree with that, but it would seem that most people will say Galactus wins.
I think thats likely because we have never seen 616 Galactus at full power, the only galactus we saw at full power was MC2 Galactus when he had the eating disorder and went around devouring everything. He became a genuine threat to omniverse to the point even Living Tribunal seemed genuinely convinced he is a threat.
Judging by that, and the whole idea of marvel that 616 abstract are meant to be more powerful than other alternate reality counterpart, it would be safe to say RKT would lose.
Also RKT has little to no feats to compare him with Galactus, we only have a bio saying he is more powerful than Odin, how much more powerful is never been stated. And thats about it, and Odin got knocked out by headbutting galactus who made absolutely no attempt to fight back. Also people who seem to think Thor has hurt galactus fail to see he has never actually dont substantial damange to him, and neither has Odin, apart from one instance where Thor was able to hurt a starving Galactus after his fight with Ego, who Galactus actually acknowledge as his equal. In the most recent Thor Annual 01 (no idea what volume it is on) Galactus pretty much wasnt even scratched after being hit by a godblast from Thor , point blank, and thats without a doubt is the most powerful attack Thor has.
@Killemall: I've read that already (or rather, skimmed over that). Although the Thor you said who's godblast failed to harm Galactus, I do not believe it was Rune King Thor.
@ShootingNova said:
@Killemall: I've read that already (or rather, skimmed over that). Although the Thor you said who's godblast failed to harm Galactus, I do not believe it was Rune King Thor.
And you did not get what i was trying to say? He was surprised people rank Galactus fully fed so highly, in reply i said we have never seen Galactus be fully fed to have no clue to how powerful he would be. The only instance resembling this is Mc2 universe galactus (non-canon of course) where he had the whole eating disorder. And i used that to show, if MC2 is any indication of his power level when fully fed, then he should be well and truly above RKT by an absolute mile.
@Killemall: But in being a non-canon reality, we cannot compare 616 Galactus's power level to MC2's, generally.
@Killemall: An absolute contradiction. We can't, meaning there is NOT any indication to any power level. So there is (and never was) any "IF" indication in the first place.
@ShootingNova said:
@Killemall: An absolute contradiction. We can't, meaning there is NOT any indication to any power level. So there is (and never was) any "IF" indication in the first place.
Ok i am totally lost, we cant use alternate reality to show power level of an abstract because thats not a sufficient proof to show a power level rather than having no indication because the marvel multiverse is based on 616 being the strongest reality with most powerful abstracts, the only exception to his rule would be realities outside marvel multiverse like Beyonder's Realm or Utraverse.
That being said, i was just giving him an example of what a fully fed Galactus is like, with clear indication that the incident i am referring to is non-canon. I never said it was canon, nor did i attempt to present it as thus.
@Killemall: Aren't there multiple Galactus(es) in the multiverse? If that's true, I don't see how Galactus can be multiversal, let alone Omniversal.
Galactus hasn't seemed incredibly durable, being hurt by mere class 100's. It's his body that took the impact, not his power. I don't see his eating ability giving him infinite durability, he's got to go down sometime. RKT could possibly pull this off. Unlikely, but it would be a battle to see. If mere Skyfather's or Heroes are able to hurt Galactus, imagine what someone like RKT could do. Who is leagues beyond Odin. Stop over powering galactus. BTW RKT has complete control over time, a power that is on par with one of the infinity gems. A power, Galactus only wishes he could match. RKT hasn't even shown strain or his max potential, so this is just a stepping stone to his actual capabilities.
@kingkronos said:
@Killemall: Aren't there multiple Galactus(es) in the multiverse? If that's true, I don't see how Galactus can be multiversal, let alone Omniversal.
Few things first.
1. Normally Galactus isnt multiversal, let alone omniversal, although during Thor Annual 01 (2012) quite recently it was stated that a fight between Galactus , the scarier and The Other would destroy the multiverse, worse than what Chaos King did, and CK destroyed 98% of the marvel multiverse.
2. Being multiple in universe doesnt reduce your power to universal, i do not know where people are getting that from. IG is present in ever universe as well, yet it has feats that clearly put it at universe, heck it worked outside LT domain as well.
@ShootingNova said:
@Killemall: LOL, I don't know what you're saying.
Ok lets try point wise.
1. I am not saying MC2 Galactus power level proves anything in terms of power, that much we agree yes?
2. Abstract and normal characters are regarded differently in marvel multiverse. There is little to no relationship between power of say Silver Surfer from 616 universe to Silver Surfer from Ultimate Universe (1610). But Abstracts are a little different, they tend (not always but often) tend to have similar power level.
3. Had there been absolutely any other instance where we had seen Galactus at full power in 616, i would never present a non-canon instance. Since we have no instance 616 Galactus at full power, the next best option to me seemed like looking at non-canon encounter to draw a power level for galactus and keep a big margin for error. That is why i made sure i stated it was non-canon , ever time i talked about the feat, and said IF that is any indication (because most often their power level are similar with 616 generally being more stronger, e.g. Abraxas saga) than Galactus should be more powerful than RKT (who at best is universal).
@ShootingNova said:
@Killemall: Except the feat is worthless. Don't you understand what non-canon is?
He's literally been saying it's non-canon, the entire time. And that the only time we've seen a "fully fed" Galactus, was in a non-canon universe. Where it shouldn't be taken as fact, simply that this is the only showing we have of it, and if it's any indication as to what he would be in 616, he would beat RKT very easily, but acknowledges that it's non-canon and thus irrelevant. He said this like 10 times in one way or another.
What he is saying, seems pretty self-explanatory.
@ShootingNova said:
@Killemall: Except the feat is worthless. Don't you understand what non-canon is?
Killemall explanations are perfectly clear and represent a valid point, you just can't or refuse to understand.
Now, about the OP, "fully fed" has to be described more clearly, because the Hunger is infinite and Galactus's destiny is to eat the entire universe before a new one is recreated.
I'd prefer "Galactus as powerful as we've ever seen him", and in this case, I think that yes, he'd defeat RKT.
@xeon1cs: @DocFatalis: I know what he's saying, maybe I said unwell, but my point was that, while it seemed "logical", it honestly might not amount to anything.
@xeon1cs said:
but acknowledges that it's non-canon and thus irrelevant
I think you said this incorrectly. If it was irrrelevant he wouldn't have even mentioned it.
@Killemall: Out of curiosity, would you take the following scans from Silver Surfer v3 51 as an indication that Galactus was "fully fed" or "100%" (however the OP phrased it) here? That was my first impression, but I have yet to get a second opinion
Although I will say, the whole "fully fed" or "100% fully fed" or whatever thing does seem to be a misunderstanding in how the character's powers work. IMO, Galactus is "100%" when he eats a planet. Maybe in extreme cases (like after Annihilation) he might need a few to get all the way back to par, but I see it commonly mentioned that "100% Galactus = Eternity," and I do not agree with this at all, and it makes no sense to me that Galactus would spend 99% of his time roaming the cosmos at 1% of his power, constantly on the brink of starvation, for no particular reason.
Another thing, in the Judgement Day graphic novel (you know, the one where he famously battles Mephisto), Galactus was eating planets left and right, and there is no mention of his powers getting ridiculously high compared to normal or anything like that (if anything, it just makes him a glutton for more and more planets).
Actually, now that I think of it, do you know of any instances (besides Black Celestial Arc, which may not even be canon) where gorging himself led to an equivalent boost in power beyond what he normally seems capable of? Because if there isn't one, then there isn't much of a basis for the concept of the "fully fed" uber-Galactus in the first place.
@Freefa11: I would normally interprete it as normally fed Galactus.
Also his might has increased as a result of eating for. Even in the recent FF: War of Four Cities, Galactus ate 4 planets to confront the celestials and did rather well against them. Hard to say whether he was capable of replicating the same feat had be not eaten as much.
@Killemall said:
@kingkronos said:
@Killemall: Aren't there multiple Galactus(es) in the multiverse? If that's true, I don't see how Galactus can be multiversal, let alone Omniversal.
Few things first.
1. Normally Galactus isnt multiversal, let alone omniversal, although during Thor Annual 01 (2012) quite recently it was stated that a fight between Galactus , the scarier and The Other would destroy the multiverse, worse than what Chaos King did, and CK destroyed 98% of the marvel multiverse.
2. Being multiple in universe doesnt reduce your power to universal, i do not know where people are getting that from. IG is present in ever universe as well, yet it has feats that clearly put it at universe, heck it worked outside LT domain as well.
@ShootingNova said:
@Killemall: LOL, I don't know what you're saying.
Ok lets try point wise.
1. I am not saying MC2 Galactus power level proves anything in terms of power, that much we agree yes?
2. Abstract and normal characters are regarded differently in marvel multiverse. There is little to no relationship between power of say Silver Surfer from 616 universe to Silver Surfer from Ultimate Universe (1610). But Abstracts are a little different, they tend (not always but often) tend to have similar power level.
3. Had there been absolutely any other instance where we had seen Galactus at full power in 616, i would never present a non-canon instance. Since we have no instance 616 Galactus at full power, the next best option to me seemed like looking at non-canon encounter to draw a power level for galactus and keep a big margin for error. That is why i made sure i stated it was non-canon , ever time i talked about the feat, and said IF that is any indication (because most often their power level are similar with 616 generally being more stronger, e.g. Abraxas saga) than Galactus should be more powerful than RKT (who at best is universal).
Galactus is not multiversal.
Thor see's the fight's not worth dying to and heads to Stark Tower. They have a drink and leave it to the hulk.
been done
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/galactuspyrogram-vs-rune-king-thoralyssabird/741173/
@drgnx said:
@logy5000: @Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
Thor wins barely
Нема шансе Галактус би победио и ову верзију Тор-a ! :D
Galaktus no chance to win and this version
bloody google ..
That's not what he said! He said and i quote There's not a chance, Galactus would win even against this version of Thor.
@Kennypow said:
@drgnx said:
@logy5000: @Bo88gdan said:
@BigCimmerian said:
Thor wins barely
Нема шансе Галактус би победио и ову верзију Тор-a ! :D
Galaktus no chance to win and this version
bloody google ..
That's not what he said! He said and i quote There's not a chance, Galactus would win even against this version of Thor.
dumbass.
If you're so smart, why didn't you notice I used Google translator to decipher? But excuse me for not knowing the language he spoke.... My response, "bloody google..." should have also told you that I was certain it was off.
BTW, if you're going to insult someone because of a translation, make sure you get your response grammatically correct.
That's not what he said! He said, and I quote,"There's not a chance, Galactus would win even against this version of Thor".
Dumbass!
BTW, flagged!
A weak galactus got beat by classic thors Eco-blast.. (wasnt even his god blast or anti-force)
A thor with odin force, runes, destroyer, belt, and pimped mjolnir is to OP.. A fully fed galactus has never even been mentioned, for all we know he could be at same levels with a normal fed one but can sustain longer without having to eat worlds.. RKT is about odin x2, or odin x3.. Odin knocked out a normal fed galactus with a headbut if I remember correctly lol.. With thors new incredibly powerful life force + the more powerful version of mjolnir reforged by surtur, he can probaply generate a enormous god blast, capable of destroying even galactus at prime (seeing how galactus at a lower level could be killed by classic thors eco-blast.) Thor should also have extended durability to galactus attacks because of the destroyer and belt of strength. So I think Thor takes this, not a stomp but he takes this
Still Galactus :)
Big G.
Galactus ftw
@linsanel_doctor: Rkt ftw <3
Galactus at full power wins. Galan at full power is like eternity. Rune King Thor could beat him if he was like 75 percent full power. Rune king thor is more powerful than Odin, he ended ragnarok.
@throughmyeyez: Elder gods are a lot more powerful than Rune King Thor.
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