Rune King Thor vs. Dormammu

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#1 Edited by Nefarious (16243 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Location: Apokolips.   
Both are at full power. 
Thor has his hammer.
Starting distance: 100 feet apart.
No prep-time.
Morals are off. 
Win is by Knockout or Death.  
Who wins? 
 
 

VS 

#2 Posted by King_Namor (483 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

I dont really think thor needs to be Rune king to take out Dormmamu but eh Only thing I really know about him is his battles with strange and the avengers defenders war.
 
But you cant really kill dormmamu just send him away.....
 
Giving it to RKT simply because he has the skill and power to defeat him and lock him away.

#3 Posted by Nefarious (16243 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio
@King_Namor: He can kill Thor, though.
#4 Posted by PunkMastaFlex (3152 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio
@Nefarious
Rune Thor would easily defeat Domammu. King Thor would be a much closer fight.
#5 Posted by czarny_samael666 (13800 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio
@PunkMastaFlex said:
@Nefarious: Rune Thor would easily defeat Domammu. King Thor would be a much closer fight.
#6 Posted by LordMaverick (4388 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Thor................
#7 Posted by Nefarious (16243 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio
@PunkMastaFlex: I was thinking about using King Thor, too.
#8 Posted by whacknasty (5508 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio
@PunkMastaFlex said:
@Nefarious: Rune Thor would easily defeat Domammu. King Thor would be a much closer fight.
I always thought Dormammu was one of those characters that was so powerful  the whole "imprison in another dimension" was the only tactic that makes sense to defeat him without massive pis (like Chthon sort of). 
 
King Thor had his arm chopped by Wolverine, right...? (it may be pis, not sure if I read the whole event or just saw the scans...)
#9 Posted by czarny_samael666 (13800 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio
@whacknasty said:
@PunkMastaFlex said:
@Nefarious: Rune Thor would easily defeat Domammu. King Thor would be a much closer fight.
I always thought Dormammu was one of those characters that was so powerful  the whole "imprison in another dimension" was the only tactic that makes sense to defeat him without massive pis (like Chthon sort of).  King Thor had his arm chopped by Wolverine, right...? (it may be pis, not sure if I read the whole event or just saw the scans...)
King Thor was depowered in thi fight by Council of Godheads.
#10 Posted by PunkMastaFlex (3152 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio
@whacknasty
Dormammu is on par with Zeus and Odin in power. 
 
Not exactly sure about this King Thor thing. It's most likely pis.
#11 Posted by jayskee (1741 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio
@ebuchanan said:
Thor................
#12 Posted by BigCimmerian (4338 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Dormammu is on same power level as Odin and Zeus, but I doubt that. Rune Thor is more powerful than Odin and Zeus.

#13 Posted by progenitor (7407 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Rune King Thor ftw.
#14 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2932 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

Rune King Thor should win.

#15 Posted by Marvelcomicsrule2011 (33 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio
@PunkMastaFlex said:
@Nefarious: Rune Thor would easily defeat Domammu. King Thor would be a much closer fight.
#16 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (5853 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio

RKT for sure.

#17 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38596 posts) - 1 year, 9 months ago - Show Bio
RKT FTW!
#18 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Rune King Thor.

#19 Posted by MarvelRulesTheWorld (332 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

So long as Rune King Thor resides in Eternity, he is no match for Dormammu.

#20 Posted by daak1212 (7790 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Rune King was an abstract level powerhouse and was a complete and utter bad ass. Dormammu on the other hand is possibly multiversal and has shown feats that put him beyond abstract level but the thing being that he is usually a jobber and actual good feats from him are spaced out like suburb homes. I'm giving this to Thor based on well what he did and the inconsistency of Dormammu.

#21 Edited by Docnick (10453 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@daak1212 said:

Rune King was an abstract level powerhouse and was a complete and utter bad ass. Dormammu on the other hand is possibly multiversal and has shown feats that put him beyond abstract level but the thing being that he is usually a jobber and actual good feats from him are spaced out like suburb homes. I'm giving this to Thor based on well what he did and the inconsistency of Dormammu.

Villains have a tendecy to "job".. when you're a villain it's inevitable.

in my opinion however Dormammu is gonna kick Thor's ass

#22 Posted by Nerx (11616 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Dormammu, he has sicker combos

#23 Edited by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

@daak1212 said:

Rune King was an abstract level powerhouse and was a complete and utter bad ass. Dormammu on the other hand is possibly multiversal and has shown feats that put him beyond abstract level but the thing being that he is usually a jobber and actual good feats from him are spaced out like suburb homes. I'm giving this to Thor based on well what he did and the inconsistency of Dormammu.

Villains have a tendecy to "job".. when you're a villain it's inevitable.

in my opinion however Dormammu is gonna kick Thor's ass

Rune King Thor is "Abstract Level."???

I heard people on this Vine say Dormammu equals Odin and Zeus?

#24 Posted by Docnick (10453 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@nickthedevil said:

@daak1212 said:

Rune King was an abstract level powerhouse and was a complete and utter bad ass. Dormammu on the other hand is possibly multiversal and has shown feats that put him beyond abstract level but the thing being that he is usually a jobber and actual good feats from him are spaced out like suburb homes. I'm giving this to Thor based on well what he did and the inconsistency of Dormammu.

Villains have a tendecy to "job".. when you're a villain it's inevitable.

in my opinion however Dormammu is gonna kick Thor's ass

Rune King Thor is "Abstract Level."???

I heard people on this Vine say Dormammu equals Odin and Zeus?

ahhh.....

Dormammu gave enough output to Disintegrate Eternity and almost destroy all of reality

hopefully you can see the picturres :P

#25 Posted by daak1212 (7790 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@nickthedevil: That's true in certain cases. Name a case where Mephisto has jobbed or Deathstroke? Dormmamu is just a well known jobber. At his best he should be able to beat Rune King Thor but consistency wise Thor stomps.

@jeanroygrant: Yeah I forgot which battle but someone had this great rebuttal and pretty much spelled it out that he was Abstract level. Apparently with the destruction of the destiny weave or w/e and the annihilation of Those Who Sit Above in Shadows plus his other feats pretty much made him abstract level and I think in the JMS volume of Thor literally in the first couple of pages he alluded to being the Universe...I have the volume but I dont wanna get it because I'm lazy. Dormammu is the strongest Hell-Lord by far ask but he just seems to job.

#26 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@daak1212 said:

@nickthedevil: That's true in certain cases. Name a case where Mephisto has jobbed or Deathstroke? Dormmamu is just a well known jobber. At his best he should be able to beat Rune King Thor but consistency wise Thor stomps.

@jeanroygrant: Yeah I forgot which battle but someone had this great rebuttal and pretty much spelled it out that he was Abstract level. Apparently with the destruction of the destiny weave or w/e and the annihilation of Those Who Sit Above in Shadows plus his other feats pretty much made him abstract level and I think in the JMS volume of Thor literally in the first couple of pages he alluded to being the Universe...I have the volume but I dont wanna get it because I'm lazy. Dormammu is the strongest Hell-Lord by far ask but he just seems to job.

I also beleive it too, the dude was one with the universe.

#27 Posted by Docnick (10453 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@daak1212 said:

@nickthedevil: That's true in certain cases. Name a case where Mephisto has jobbed or Deathstroke? Dormmamu is just a well known jobber. At his best he should be able to beat Rune King Thor but consistency wise Thor stomps.

@jeanroygrant: Yeah I forgot which battle but someone had this great rebuttal and pretty much spelled it out that he was Abstract level. Apparently with the destruction of the destiny weave or w/e and the annihilation of Those Who Sit Above in Shadows plus his other feats pretty much made him abstract level and I think in the JMS volume of Thor literally in the first couple of pages he alluded to being the Universe...I have the volume but I dont wanna get it because I'm lazy. Dormammu is the strongest Hell-Lord by far ask but he just seems to job.

Mephisto has Jobbed quite a bi tmy friend.

and about deathstroke... well give Dormammu and his own Comic book title, and then we can talk :P

#28 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@nickthedevil said:

@daak1212 said:

Rune King was an abstract level powerhouse and was a complete and utter bad ass. Dormammu on the other hand is possibly multiversal and has shown feats that put him beyond abstract level but the thing being that he is usually a jobber and actual good feats from him are spaced out like suburb homes. I'm giving this to Thor based on well what he did and the inconsistency of Dormammu.

Villains have a tendecy to "job".. when you're a villain it's inevitable.

in my opinion however Dormammu is gonna kick Thor's ass

Rune King Thor is "Abstract Level."???

I heard people on this Vine say Dormammu equals Odin and Zeus?

ahhh.....

Dormammu gave enough output to Disintegrate Eternity and almost destroy all of reality

hopefully you can see the picturres :P

LOL naw i can't see them but it's okay,i believe you :p

#29 Posted by Docnick (10453 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

damn.... hold on :P

#30 Posted by daak1212 (7790 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said: Most of his cool feats come from JLA Titants and etc.

@daak1212 said:

@nickthedevil: That's true in certain cases. Name a case where Mephisto has jobbed or Deathstroke? Dormmamu is just a well known jobber. At his best he should be able to beat Rune King Thor but consistency wise Thor stomps.

@jeanroygrant: Yeah I forgot which battle but someone had this great rebuttal and pretty much spelled it out that he was Abstract level. Apparently with the destruction of the destiny weave or w/e and the annihilation of Those Who Sit Above in Shadows plus his other feats pretty much made him abstract level and I think in the JMS volume of Thor literally in the first couple of pages he alluded to being the Universe...I have the volume but I dont wanna get it because I'm lazy. Dormammu is the strongest Hell-Lord by far ask but he just seems to job.

I also beleive it too, the dude was one with the universe.

AHA!!!! I @nickthedevil: found what I was looking for

Because he destroyed the Tapestry of fate which was linked to TWSAIS which was literally a tapestry of all recorded time from 0 hour to that current time everything was destroyed and then he recreated it

#31 Edited by Docnick (10453 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@daak1212 said:

@jeanroygrant said: Most of his cool feats come from JLA Titants and etc.

@daak1212 said:

@nickthedevil: That's true in certain cases. Name a case where Mephisto has jobbed or Deathstroke? Dormmamu is just a well known jobber. At his best he should be able to beat Rune King Thor but consistency wise Thor stomps.

@jeanroygrant: Yeah I forgot which battle but someone had this great rebuttal and pretty much spelled it out that he was Abstract level. Apparently with the destruction of the destiny weave or w/e and the annihilation of Those Who Sit Above in Shadows plus his other feats pretty much made him abstract level and I think in the JMS volume of Thor literally in the first couple of pages he alluded to being the Universe...I have the volume but I dont wanna get it because I'm lazy. Dormammu is the strongest Hell-Lord by far ask but he just seems to job.

I also beleive it too, the dude was one with the universe.

AHA!!!! I @nickthedevil: found what I was looking for

Because he destroyed the Tapestry of fate which was linked to TWSAIS which was literally a tapestry of all recorded time from 0 hour to that current time everything was destroyed and then he recreated it

im confused... to whom are you talking to and who or what are you talking about? :P

#32 Posted by daak1212 (7790 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@nickthedevil: Crap! Okay the Aha was for Jeanroygrant and the Deathstroke thing was for you

#33 Posted by Butcher_Pete (254 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

I was kind of hoping to see those scans of Dormammu defeating Eternity, but it seems like PIS anyways. Also, Ive heard many claim that Dormammu is Odin's equal, and I was just wondering where that came from. If it's true then this fight should be in Rune King Thor's favor.

#34 Posted by daak1212 (7790 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@Butcher_Pete said:

I was kind of hoping to see those scans of Dormammu defeating Eternity, but it seems like PIS anyways. Also, Ive heard many claim that Dormammu is Odin's equal, and I was just wondering where that came from. If it's true then this fight should be in Rune King Thor's favor.

He's everywhere. He can kill Eternity but is said to be on Odin's level but then lost to Dr.Voodoo in his own realm. Bad showing and writer F up but still it serves the purpose of showing that really he doesn't have a consistency

#35 Posted by Bo88gdan (4126 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

RKT FTW !

#36 Posted by MarvelRulesTheWorld (332 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Dormammu is so far above Odin, it's not even funny anymore. He kidnapped and killed Eternity multiple times for nearly 50 years already. Defeated the Phoenix Force once. Trolled Odin, Thor and Loki a few. Kidnapped Elder God Gaea. Succeeded in weakening Zom while Zom beat the crap out of Odin, Dr. Strange and the Ancient One together. Turned Scarlet Witch in glue etc.. He considers himself equal to Odin and Zeus in tactic, reason, strategy and intelligence. His personal power however is between All Father and Elder God but has stackable invoking powers. His invoking powers makes him more powerful than Arioch and just about nearly as powerful as Shuma-Gorath.

Dormammu is a straight up jobber and he looses for reasons that 1) he's a bad guy whose sole purpose is to destroy Eternity 2) bad guy wants to destroy Strange because Strange is the one who protects Eternity 3) bad luck 4) if he wins kiss Marvel good bye. As far as I recall he lost once by Phoenix, Lost a chess game one time by Odin, Lost to Dr. Doom when Dr. Doom was Sorcerer Supreme and lost multiple times by Dr. Strange. Also, the thing about Dormammu is that he can't die. Albeit, destroy his physical manifested body, he'll just grow a new one at a blink of an eye. The only way you can beat this guy is by using magical force to push him back to his own dimension. (Like Shuma-Gorath). Odin and Zeus on the other hand can die.

Rune King Thor makes no difference.

  • Rune King had Odinfoce
  • The Power of the Zodiac Runes
  • A newly Forged Moljir crafted by Surtur who is more powerful than Odin

But he is still not more powerful than Dormammu. He defeated the the Threads of Fate with a plot, but he told Loki straight up that he didn't have the power undo Fate. Dormammu on the other hand DOES have the power to directly force fate against Eternity. Rune King Thor needed a plot device to restart time. His soul became temporarily one with the universe and he died and was reborn as regular Thor and Asgard was restored.

Dormammu >>> Zodiac Rune

Dormammu >>>>>>>Surtur

Here are the scans of Rune King Thor.

This is when he "becomes abstract" totally misleading rumor everyone keeps talking about. Notice that he doesn't have the power to change anything, but he destroys the fates spinning wheel to undo time to restore Asgard.

Wouldn't you call that PIS? Sure looks like it....

Would you call this next scan PIS? No....

It's Dormammu destroying Eternity with his own personal power.



Compare it to Rune King Thor and I rest my case.

#37 Posted by BigCimmerian (4338 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

In his fight against Seth is it true that Odin and Seth were capable of destroying entire multiverse?

#38 Edited by MarvelRulesTheWorld (332 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio
@BigCimmerian said:

In his fight against Seth is it true that Odin and Seth were capable of destroying entire multiverse?

No. Their power clashes only causes large ripple effects that shake a galaxy at best. Odin can probably destroy a universe by destroying one solar system, resting for a few days. Destroy another Solar System. Rest for a few days. Destroy another Solar System. etc... It would take him over a billion years to destroy every planet and star in the Universe. That's probably as powerful Odin can get completely upgraded. As with Seths. Just remember that Celestials are much more powerful than Odin that is completely upgraded.
#39 Posted by BigCimmerian (4338 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@MarvelRulesTheWorld said:

@BigCimmerian said:

In his fight against Seth is it true that Odin and Seth were capable of destroying entire multiverse?

No. Their power clashes only causes large ripple effects that shake a galaxy at best. Odin can probably destroy a universe by destroying one solar system, resting for a few days. Destroy another Solar System. Rest for a few days. Destroy another Solar System. etc... That's probably as powerful Odin can get completely upgraded. As with Seths. Just remember that Celestials are much more powerful than Odin that is completely upgraded.

I didn't read that story, but I saw this on wikipedia

Odin was so powerful that even while severely weakened, in his fight with Seth which was waged on every plane of existence simultaneously, the energy released from their battle was so powerful it shattered countless entire galaxies, reignited dying suns, and shook the very fabric of the Multiverse.

#40 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (897 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Well then, after seeing those scans i'm gonna give this to Dormammu. I never knew he was that powerful. He took down an Abstract! Rune King Thor, from my understanding, is not Abstract level. Above a Sky Father and probably low Elder God, but not an Abstract.

#41 Posted by Bo88gdan (4126 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

RKT

#42 Posted by Killemall (13459 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

@PunkMastaFlex: I was thinking about using King Thor, too.

Well the picture is King thor from Reigning saga.. RKT wins willy nilly, and i personally think King Thor would have lost but thats besides point :)

#43 Posted by Killemall (13459 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@MarvelRulesTheWorld: The beating eternity part seem to have been retconned because thats an old encounter. The more recent encounter of Dormammu with eternity was when Dormammu has his sister and he himself agreed that on normal power level he is no match for eternity.

#44 Posted by Spartan101 (1530 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

yeah dormammu is no fool here,its a very close fight. more recent dorms are showed him to be weaker,but in this fight i assume we use the most powerful version,so he could win this imo.

#45 Posted by Nefarious (16243 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio
@Killemall: Yeah, I couldn't find a image of RKT in the images.
#46 Edited by MagneticShockwave (1245 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

@Killemall: Yeah, I couldn't find a image of RKT in the images.

Theyre on page 2.

#47 Posted by Nefarious (16243 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio
@MagneticShockwave: Thanks.
#48 Posted by Docnick (10453 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

I can't count all the times i've backed Dorms in these battles with those scans -_-

#49 Posted by MarvelRulesTheWorld (332 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@MarvelRulesTheWorld: The beating eternity part seem to have been retconned because thats an old encounter. The more recent encounter of Dormammu with eternity was when Dormammu has his sister and he himself agreed that on normal power level he is no match for eternity.

Actually, it's harder for Dormammu to simply destroy eternity now because the Ancient One is now a part of Eternity.

#50 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 2 months ago - Show Bio

@PunkMastaFlex said:

Rune Thor would easily defeat Domammu. King Thor would be a much closer fight.
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