Rune king thor vs classic dr strange

I have checked and this specific battle has never been done before. So it's king thor with rune magic and odin force, which puts him above skyfather level against the sorcerer supreme, they should be quite even in terms of magic, this battle takes place on a deserted planet. Warrior madness for thor could be an option...

@King Saturn said:

Classic Doctor Strange would teach Rune King Thor a lesson...

@King Saturn said:

Classic Doctor Strange would teach Rune King Thor a lesson...

hmm, well that was an anti-climax, on other forum websites some people said rune king thor would win since his powers are completely ridiculous.

Rune King Thor.

I think his magic is more powerful and his physical skills and Mjolnir would make up the difference if not.

Classic strange would without a doubt beat him

@King Saturn said:

Classic Doctor Strange would teach Rune King Thor a lesson...

I found this on Thor's marvel wiki, under the section of Thor's odin force: "decapitate a Desak-occupied Destroyer by focusing a portion of his power into one Mjolnir hurl, and easily conquer all of Earth, and defeat all of its inhabitants such as the Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. According to the avatar of the Odin Force, Thor recreating celestial bodies and his other accomplishments during his time on Earth were nothing but minimal compared to the Odin Force's limitless power." These feats haven't even mentioned rune magic, with which he is above skyfathers. Also he was connected with "Those who sit above in shadow", can't remember how though. Oh and he is nigh-omnipotent and omniscient. I'm still confused to why Dr strange beats him.

Classic Strange.

@jay_z94 said:

@King Saturn said:

Classic Doctor Strange would teach Rune King Thor a lesson...

I found this on Thor's marvel wiki, under the section of Thor's odin force: "decapitate a Desak-occupied Destroyer by focusing a portion of his power into one Mjolnir hurl, and easily conquer all of Earth, and defeat all of its inhabitants such as the Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. According to the avatar of the Odin Force, Thor recreating celestial bodies and his other accomplishments during his time on Earth were nothing but minimal compared to the Odin Force's limitless power." These feats haven't even mentioned rune magic, with which he is above skyfathers. Also he was connected with "Those who sit above in shadow", can't remember how though. Oh and he is nigh-omnipotent and omniscient. I'm still confused to why Dr strange beats him.

Strange is very very strong.

Classic Strange maybe

My preference goes to Strange, but I don't know much about RK Thor, I had given up on the title back then. Classic Strange tales were also very different from the 2000's stories, I find it hard to compare the two.

I'll go with Strange because it's hard to imagine someone who's not a concept beating him at the time he was written. Once again though, I'll admit I know nothing more about RKT than what I've read on this board.

Never read anything with Rune King Thor, but I assume he's a highly overpowered God of Thunder. This should be a fairly decent fight, but I guess Strange would take it :S

@tomlikesfries said:

Never read anything with Rune King Thor, but I assume he's a highly overpowered God of Thunder. This should be a fairly decent fight, but I guess Strange would take it :S

Actually he is a highly overpowered Odin. Strange has no chance.

Strange in the older books was ridiculously powerful, even impressing the Living Tribunal with his strength and willpower (though he's still far below Living Tribunal by his own admission). I'd say Strange takes it.

@jay_z94 said:

@King Saturn said:

Classic Doctor Strange would teach Rune King Thor a lesson...

I found this on Thor's marvel wiki, under the section of Thor's odin force: "decapitate a Desak-occupied Destroyer by focusing a portion of his power into one Mjolnir hurl, and easily conquer all of Earth, and defeat all of its inhabitants such as the Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. According to the avatar of the Odin Force, Thor recreating celestial bodies and his other accomplishments during his time on Earth were nothing but minimal compared to the Odin Force's limitless power." These feats haven't even mentioned rune magic, with which he is above skyfathers. Also he was connected with "Those who sit above in shadow", can't remember how though. Oh and he is nigh-omnipotent and omniscient. I'm still confused to why Dr strange beats him.

Classic Strange and Strange during this time are two completely different leagues of power. It's like comparing Superman to Silver Age Superman, just the difference isn't quite as vast.

@robertloucksjr said:

@tomlikesfries said:

Never read anything with Rune King Thor, but I assume he's a highly overpowered God of Thunder. This should be a fairly decent fight, but I guess Strange would take it :S

Actually he is a highly overpowered Odin. Strange has no chance.

Strange was able to take down Galactus twice, he was able to take over Thor's hammer with a spell, beat the Inbetweener, can stop time at his will, fought Adam Warlock with the IG, was able to control a black hole, blowing up a moon, blowing up a planet, took on Moondragon who had the Mind gem, and a bunch of other stuff.

Thor gets destroyed.

Well classic thor did hurt galactus, and made him run away, and this is thor with odin force, which is limitless power and rune magic which is infinite mystical power and spells, making him RIDICOLOUSLY overpowered and much more powerful than odin himself. He’s rated as at a semi-abstract level, being above the elder gods as he is omnipotent and omniscient, with Dr strange being nowhere near this level. One last thing, Dr strange is still a mortal man, which is a huge weakness, prone to getting speed blitzed or god blasted. RKT can take this fight. Also, does anyone have any knowledge or scans of when odin force thor conquered the earth, and defeated sorcerer supreme dr strange? (according to thor's marvel wiki)

I would say it's a very even fight, since both are ridiculously powerful characters, but i'm slightly leaning towards RKT since my previous post sums up how crazy he is. I can't think of anything he CAN'T do, he can even manipulate/stop time and create celestial beings

Stalemate.

I only recall one instance against a hungry, starving Galactus who was so hungry to a point he was already shrinking.

Exact same issue he admits Loki is more powerful than him, and has huge problem beating an Astral Essence of Loki, despite it being stated to have limited Loki's power. He ended up need Thor''s help to actually defeat Loki there, why is the feat taken completely out of context?

After realizing he is completely helpless against Inbetweener, Dr. Strange essentially does something he should never be able to do, invoke the power of Lord Order and Master Chaos. So thats a pretty big context to ignore. The second time they fought, Inbetweener won.

Could you show me one instance of Strange ever invoking the power of Abstract apart from that issue???

Odin can do that as well...

Pretty big context involved. Adam Warlock was unstable and Dr. Strange had prep. Even then Warlock uses only one gem at a time, and Dr. Strange himself admit had Adam Warlock not stopped he would have killed Dr. Strange when he used power gem and power gem only.

This i am not aware, site me the issue will you.. (i dont claim to have read every issue on Dr. Strange so i am not saying he hasnt done it, its just i have no seen it and good chance that context is involved)

Genuine.

Calling Infinity Abyss a 2002 story arc a part of Classic Strange seem odd, and no Moondragon did not have mind gem during Infinity Abyss 3 and it was a pretty close fight.

Dr. Strange himself admitted that he has no chance beating The Wild One an young elder god on his own, despite knowing that he was previously beaten by Neptune, so yeah saying Dr. Strange on a random encounter was skyfather level is just not correct.

Sorry to reply to an old post, but honestly Odin himself has so many feats.. its hard to come to this conclusion.

Classic Dr.Strange is powerful, but not no where as powerful as people believe. Prep is essential for him, and so is invoking higher beings powers. He is not on the level of a Skyfather at all, and he loses this battle.

I believe Classic Dr. Strange would win this. He showed abilities to cut people's magic power sources off and he fought people that were Galaxy to Universal level threats more often than Thor Rune King Thor had.

Classic Dr. Strange backed up by the Vishanti pre-retconned should take this.

@killemall:

But he has a Supernova altering feat. It clearly illustrates multiple times the power of a supernova and mentions a black hole. So I don't think it's out of context of what he does here.

lame...

This.

this

stalemate

Loki, in astral form, where he was severely depowered, was whooping classic strange without any effort.. Why would you put him againt rkt? Strange is overrated in my opinion.. What would he even do?? Summon the roving rings of raggador :\

Strange would get destroyed...

If it's a chance encounter, Rune King Thor should win without too much trouble, but if Strange is given all his artifacts and some time to prepare, he might pull off a few wins himself.

That's how I see it. Good assessment!

@killemall: To be fair that same weakened Galactus was handling Thor and Iron Man (and the Fantastic 4) just fine in that issue. But alas, this is Rune King Thor we're talking about. But to add before moving on, the images of Ikonn might work just as well even if Galactus isn't starving. The spell crippled his mind under the pain of all the lives he took, yes his power was weakened but it shouldn't be written off by such a big assumption that more power would absolve the affects of the spell.

As for his battle with Loki, he was still quite the apprentice during that fight. A far cry from where Strange would peak during his classic days, far from where he'd be when he would later battle Dormammu even.

Speaking of which, his first battle with Dormammu was in the dark dimension where just momentarily tapping into that pool he overpowered Gaia (the elder god, mother to the pantheons). While Dr Strange wasn't winning the first fight he did last long enough for him to cause Dormammu to use up enough power that the dimensional barrier keeping the mindless ones out, weakened too much (needing Dr Strange to give him energy to restore it). That early feat which was still before gaining more power with the title of sorcerer supreme (and all the other ways he grew more powerful) put him at a level able to battle Odin scale at least (beyond actually). Still it's hard to say if he can take Rune King Thor, but you can't exactly count him out. If we're talking Strange in his prime (as master of white and black magic, etc etc, giving this his all) then I'd say he has a fair chance for a win. But if you were to just scan through his comics and just pick an appearance and say "him right there, battle RKT" I don't think he would, at least not the majority. Classic Dr Strange could contend with Odin level threats (though with comics, drama and all, he's still lost to lesser foes) but this Thor has all the power of Odin and additional power via the runes, roughly putting him around Elder God level, Dr Strange's ability to contend with that varies too much to say.

But as for prep. I don't really get why people throw that around in forums like it's his key thing. What prep does he ever really do? He's not Dr Doom. Yes there are a few occasions where he has genuinely taken time to come up with a strategy and ready his magics but he usually contends with this thing on the fly. At least in his solo runs, so he rarely knows what he'll be up against. As for his artifacts, he's shown able to summon them to himself as well.

And he never really got to stack his powers. He turns to learning black magic but after losing access to all his white magic and he didn't have any of his artifacts. Then after that he quit using black magic because he doesn't want it's corrupting power to influence him. He absorbs all the gaian magic of the earth, but this is after he loses his title of sorcerer supreme, taking a big hit to both personal and conjuring power. After expending it on creating Stevens and Strange and battling Salome (and them as well actually) oh and a 5,000 year long war, he gains use of catastrophe magic. Only after again losing a great deal of power. Dr Strange in his classic days without any hits to his power and say the benefit of all of the earth magic (or catastrophe), that I see easily giving RKT a good run.

Either way I don't see a stomp for either. A good writer and artist and it would easily be the best fight between two heroes in a comic.

I think strange takes this but only after a long battle

this is kinda the the only reason i say strange, because the cosmic beings are on a whole other level of power and eternity says stranges power threatens the whole multiverse

@venhywolf: That's a dream sequence not the actual Eternity talking to him.

Strange one shots Thor and it's not even funny

That neckless wasn't the source of thor's power remember loki and the asorbing man though the sector was odin's power?

@jay_z94: did you know when classic strange was created magic had no limit? that means he can do whatever the f*** he wanted

@jay_z94: is there a ranking system I could see? Def want to see where RKT ranks in the marvel universe.

Could definitely see Thor winning, but Strange destroys him in feats.

RKT wins

Rune King Thor is 2x stronger than odin. RKT has rune magic and odin force. Doctor strage can manipulate magic and reality, but he is still a man against Thor's who has the performances of God. Dr. strange got his ass kicked from World War Hulk

Classic Doctor Strange wins.

didn't RKT beat TWSAIS who were above beyonders

RKT wins handily

@punyaamrit: TWSAIS is not even close to beyonders.It is just a loki's lies.

RKT wins.

RKT stomps. Odin can beat Classic Strange.

CDS

RKT.

My brother. But that's my bias speaking.