Rune King Thor vs Arishem

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Rune King Thor
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Arishem
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Thor's personal perspective on the hierarchy of Marvel, bear in mind that in the previous scan Thor says Odin 'might not' be able to defeat Galactus, then goes on to say that an amplified Odin couldn't stand against the entire fourth host, which basically implies that Destroyer Odin [Amped] should be around the same league as Galactus, if not stronger.
Thor's personal perspective on the hierarchy of Marvel, bear in mind that in the previous scan Thor says Odin 'might not' be able to defeat Galactus, then goes on to say that an amplified Odin couldn't stand against the entire fourth host, which basically implies that Destroyer Odin [Amped] should be around the same league as Galactus, if not stronger.

Rules

  • Rune King Thor
  • Equipped with The Odin Sword & Mjolnir
  • Wearing the Belt of Strength
  • Wearing the Destroyer Armour which is enchanted by all of Asgard, including Odin & the Sky-Fathers.
  • Backed by the Uni-Mind
  • 1 Year of Preparation time

  • Arishem
  • Sent from Exitar to destroy Asgard

  • Fight to the death!
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arishem wins.

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@kyrees said:

arishem wins.

Try to be a little more logical with your reasoning.

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@pr0d1gy: why do i need to do that when RKT is merely above odin but not even equal to arishem ?

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@kyrees said:

@pr0d1gy: why do i need to do that when RKT is merely above odin but not even equal to arishem ?

There's still no reasoning in this post.

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@pr0d1gy: because there's no point in this thread because of this

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/rune-king-thor-vs-arishem-the-judge-650188/

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@pr0d1gy said:

@kyrees said:

arishem wins.

Try to be a little more logical with your reasoning.

Rune King Thor has no feats that come close to being as impressive as Arishem tanking the best combined blow Odin, Vishnu and Zeus could muster.

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@pr0d1gy said:

@kyrees said:

arishem wins.

Try to be a little more logical with your reasoning.

Rune King Thor has no feats that come close to being as impressive as Arishem tanking the best combined blow Odin, Vishnu and Zeus could muster.

That really comes across as PIS. Regular Thor cracked Exitar Armour, whom is supposed to be superior to the entire Fourth Host.

Does this mean Regular Thor > Odin?

Absolutely not.

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Arishem.

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@pr0d1gy said:

@kangconquers said:

@pr0d1gy said:

@kyrees said:

arishem wins.

Try to be a little more logical with your reasoning.

Rune King Thor has no feats that come close to being as impressive as Arishem tanking the best combined blow Odin, Vishnu and Zeus could muster.

That really comes across as PIS. Regular Thor cracked Exitar Armour, whom is supposed to be superior to the entire Fourth Host.

Does this mean Regular Thor > Odin?

Absolutely not.

Exitar fixed his armor almost immediately. Exitar also had antibodies within him that were giving Thor a hell of a time.

Skyfathers are ants compared to Celestials, and Rune King Thor is supposed to be twice as powerful as Odin, which would make him still an ant to a celestial.

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@pr0d1gy: cracking exitar's armor did nothing to exitar. in fact, upon entering exitar, exitar's antibodies were giving him hell.

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@kyrees said:

@pr0d1gy: cracking exitar's armor did nothing to exitar. in fact, upon entering exitar, exitar's antibodies were giving him hell.

...jinx!

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@pr0d1gy said:

@kangconquers said:

@pr0d1gy said:

@kyrees said:

arishem wins.

Try to be a little more logical with your reasoning.

Rune King Thor has no feats that come close to being as impressive as Arishem tanking the best combined blow Odin, Vishnu and Zeus could muster.

That really comes across as PIS. Regular Thor cracked Exitar Armour, whom is supposed to be superior to the entire Fourth Host.

Does this mean Regular Thor > Odin?

Absolutely not.

Exitar fixed his armor almost immediately. Exitar also had antibodies within him that were giving Thor a hell of a time.

Skyfathers are ants compared to Celestials, and Rune King Thor is supposed to be twice as powerful as Odin, which would make him still an ant to a celestial.

There's something wrong with that logic.

An amplified Odin is implied to be several times stronger then regular Odin, whom was stated to be 'Galactus tier' in the panel before the scan above'; whom summarily is inferior to the 'Entire', not 'one Celestial', but the 'Entire Fourth Host', who are much weaker then Exitar or other high ranking Celestials.

Point being, Regular Thor cracked his Armour.

Your logic makes a mess of the hierarchy.

An amplified RKT [to a higher degree then Odin was when he fought the fourth host], should be many, many times stronger then Odin was when he stood his ground.

If Odin could swat a few in half, then I could see this RKT being strong enough to go the extra step.

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@pr0d1gy said:

@kangconquers said:

@pr0d1gy said:

@kangconquers said:

@pr0d1gy said:

@kyrees said:

arishem wins.

Try to be a little more logical with your reasoning.

Rune King Thor has no feats that come close to being as impressive as Arishem tanking the best combined blow Odin, Vishnu and Zeus could muster.

That really comes across as PIS. Regular Thor cracked Exitar Armour, whom is supposed to be superior to the entire Fourth Host.

Does this mean Regular Thor > Odin?

Absolutely not.

Exitar fixed his armor almost immediately. Exitar also had antibodies within him that were giving Thor a hell of a time.

Skyfathers are ants compared to Celestials, and Rune King Thor is supposed to be twice as powerful as Odin, which would make him still an ant to a celestial.

There's something wrong with that logic.

An amplified Odin is implied to be several times stronger then regular Odin, whom was stated to be 'Galactus tier' in the panel before the scan above'; whom summarily is inferior to the 'Entire', not 'one Celestial', but the 'Entire Fourth Host', who are much weaker then Exitar or other high ranking Celestials.

Point being, Regular Thor cracked his Armour.

Your logic makes a mess of the hierarchy.

An amplified RKT [to a higher degree then Odin was when he fought the fourth host], should be many, many times stronger then Odin was when he stood his ground.

If Odin could swat a few in half, then I could see this RKT being strong enough to go the extra step.

Odin managed to chop off one Celestials arm. The arm then grew back, and the Celestials one-shot shit stomped him. This was Odin with 1,000 years prep, and he still couldn't kill a single celestial before he himself was obliterated.

Rune King Thor was stated as double Odin due to the fact that he performed all of Odin's feats twice over. He gouged out both of his eyes, hung himself from Yggdrasil twice as long etc.

Rune King Thor's best feats are blinking Mangog out of existence, and defeating Those who Sit Above in Shadow, a bunch of featless cosmic beings, with high implied power. He has no feats that put him anywhere near Arishem. This is a curb stomp for the Celestial.

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@pr0d1gy: your point makes no sense. you are focusing on the fact that thor cracked exitar's armor when it didn't matter to exitar. the armor was healed and his antibodies were giving him hell. while odin in the destroyer would have been amped, it didn't matter that it took one hit from a 4th host celestial to stagger him.

all the prep odin and his other skyfathers had didn't kill one of the celestials, why would RKT with amps and one year prep would fare any better on the leader of the 4th host ?

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@kyrees said:

@pr0d1gy: your point makes no sense. you are focusing on the fact that thor cracked exitar's armor when it didn't matter to exitar. the armor was healed and his antibodies were giving him hell. while odin in the destroyer would have been amped, it didn't matter that it took one hit from a 4th host celestial to stagger him.

all the prep odin and his other skyfathers had didn't kill one of the celestials, why would RKT with amps and one year prep would fare any better on the leader of the 4th host ?

The only possible argument for Rune King Thor is the "Celestials have been nerfed" argument, which has some merit, but is hard to prove.

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@kyrees said:

@pr0d1gy: your point makes no sense. you are focusing on the fact that thor cracked exitar's armor when it didn't matter to exitar. the armor was healed and his antibodies were giving him hell. while odin in the destroyer would have been amped, it didn't matter that it took one hit from a 4th host celestial to stagger him.

all the prep odin and his other skyfathers had didn't kill one of the celestials, why would RKT with amps and one year prep would fare any better on the leader of the 4th host ?

The only possible argument for Rune King Thor is the "Celestials have been nerfed" argument, which has some merit, but is hard to prove.

The scan directly states the combined might of the Fourth Host was superior to an amplified Odin whom is superior to normal Odin, whom was implied to be around Galactus tier. Which implies:

Fourth Host >>>> Amplified Odin >>>> Galactus > Regular Odin

Let alone a version of Thor whose at the lowest, 2x stronger then Odin an then amplified to a higher degree.

He should ROFL a lower level Celestial.

Exitar is regarded as high level Celestial, Arishem isn't.

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@kyrees said:

@kangconquers: the jarnbjorn occurence right ?

That, and the Fantastic 4 arc where Galactus and Franklin Richards were able to team up and defeat the Mad Celestials. Celestials were originally stated as head and shoulders above the existing cosmic pantheon. They now seem to be more on the same level as Galactus/ the In-Betweener etc.

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@pr0d1gy said:

@kangconquers said:

@kyrees said:

@pr0d1gy: your point makes no sense. you are focusing on the fact that thor cracked exitar's armor when it didn't matter to exitar. the armor was healed and his antibodies were giving him hell. while odin in the destroyer would have been amped, it didn't matter that it took one hit from a 4th host celestial to stagger him.

all the prep odin and his other skyfathers had didn't kill one of the celestials, why would RKT with amps and one year prep would fare any better on the leader of the 4th host ?

The only possible argument for Rune King Thor is the "Celestials have been nerfed" argument, which has some merit, but is hard to prove.

The scan directly states the combined might of the Fourth Host was superior to an amplified Odin whom is superior to normal Odin, whom was implied to be around Galactus tier. Which implies:

Fourth Host >>>> Amplified Odin >>>> Galactus > Regular Odin

Let alone a version of Thor whose at the lowest, 2x stronger then Odin an then amplified to a higher degree.

He should ROFL a lower level Celestial.

Exitar is regarded as high level Celestial, Arishem isn't.

Funny. Amplified Odin just lost decisively to Galactus during Matt Fraction's Thor run.

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@pr0d1gy: odin in destroyer armor is not stronger than galactus and there's zero indication that he would match galactus. odin didn't do anything lasting damage to galactus, odin in destroyer armor would just make odin last longer.

you are overestimating. RKT would only be stronger than odin but an ant would still be ant compared to a celestial. arishem didn't even bother to help blast down odin in destroyer armor and all odin did in that form was cut off the hand of one of them (which regrew back easily.)

you are forgetting the fact that the skyfather team had a 1,000 years of prep. RKT with one year prep would be useless to that.

arishem is the leader of the 4th host. being the leader of such group implies greater power, just like one above all celestial or the fulcrum is the leader of the celestials.

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#24  Edited By nwname  Moderator

Arishem still one-shot curbstomps RKT.

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Odin wasn't amplified to the same degree. Also the previous scan regarding the scan above implies Regular Odin & Galactus are around the same power.

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#26  Edited By OrdinaryAlan

@pr0d1gy said:

@kang_the_conqueror

Odin wasn't amplified to the same degree. Also the previous scan regarding the scan above implies Regular Odin & Galactus are around the same power.

Pfft, that's nothing. Here's a scan that says Odin is omnipotent. Must be true if it's in a scan.

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Celestials are far above anyone from Asgard.

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@sophia89 said:

Arshim.

If RKT gets Jarnbjorn then he can pull a win.

Regular Thor cracked Exitar, an amplified Rune King Thor is going to bust him in half whether you like it or not.

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@sophia89: He isn't winning even with Jarnjorn. Thor had a ton of help when that happened including DSS.

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@sophia89: He isn't winning even with Jarnjorn. Thor had a ton of help when that happened including DSS.

Rune King Thor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regular Thor

Exitar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arishem

See what I'm getting at here?

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@sophia89 said:

@pr0d1gy said:

@luda12331 said:

@sophia89: He isn't winning even with Jarnjorn. Thor had a ton of help when that happened including DSS.

Rune King Thor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regular Thor

Exitar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arishem

See what I'm getting at here?

Dang you beat me to it.

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@pr0d1gy: Odin stood no chance against the celestials. The Odin in that arc was the strongest character to ever come out of Asgard. Even stronger than RKT. That Odin had the help of two other Skyfathers and he had all of the powers of Asgard, both present and past, and he was still ultimately swatted like a fly. The celestial will win this fight.

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@pr0d1gy: Odin stood no chance against the celestials. The Odin in that arc was the strongest character to ever come out of Asgard. Even stronger than RKT. That Odin had the help of two other Skyfathers and he had all of the powers of Asgard, both present and past, and he was still ultimately swatted like a fly. The celestial will win this fight.

Cough. Rune King Thor is amplified further then Odin was back then. You cannot use that as a comparison for this thread. Rune King Thor has way better feats then an amplified Odin, he was merged with the Universe.

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Do people keep using this featless Fracker in battles....? :(

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@pr0d1gy said:

Your welcome.

What about my welcome.....?

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@xiix said:

@pr0d1gy said:

Your welcome.

What about my welcome.....?

He "fixed" your pick. Seriously , close this thread, nothing but a troll thread.

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@pr0d1gy said:

@xiix said:

@mysticmedivh said:

Thor.

Your welcome.

OP, you leave the debating to the users. You are clearly biased and in favor of Thor. Just because someone said what you disagree with doesn't mean you can attempt to edit out their words.

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@jestersmiles: I know.

I'll just assume the clever fellow meant "you're".

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Thor gets bent over.

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arishiem,although I just made a thread by coincidence,where the asgardians might fare bettor.

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Thor gets bent over.

Eff no.

@pr0d1gy said:

@xiix said:

@mysticmedivh said:

Thor.

Your welcome.

OP, you leave the debating to the users. You are clearly biased and in favor of Thor. Just because someone said what you disagree with doesn't mean you can attempt to edit out their words.

Nope. It's called logic.