shang tsung sub-zero scorpion kitana batman catwoman sonya liu kang jax even the joker did i mess any
body? everybody fight each other to the death no prep time in this match who wins at the end and why?Royal Rumble 2
"Bats. Do any of the others have a defense against flash-bang grenades and the like?"
they don't need to, and batman won't be last man left standing plus he always need preptime in this kind of thing and this guy said that there's no preptime i don't thank bats is not going to win.
I say batman. He would be the best at fading to the background and letting people hurt each other, wait in the shadows, or at least use the joker, who would tail him, as a human shield.
If he has a good array of gadgets with him, he can force fighters to keep their distance, then attack when they are tired and low in number.
i have to disagreed i thank batman will lose here no matter how good he is with his toys that he cheats to win i thank even Shang Tsung and sub-zero or liu kang and scorpion would win.
"i forgot to ask shadow that where do this battle is at?
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in outworld in front of shao kahn and his special forceses to make sure everybody fight to the death!!
"Bats. Do any of the others have a defense against flash-bang grenades and the like?"Who says Bats will get a chance to use his gadgets here ? Sub Zero could easy take him out with the use of his Ice Attacks...
"Shang Tsung has all the powers so he wins."I dont know about all the powers... but I see what ya saying
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"Shang Tsung has defeated Liu Kang though as well...Kang beat Shang tsung so i dont see how he would win
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Who says Bats will get a chance to use his gadgets here ? Sub Zero could easy take him out with the use of his Ice Attacks..."Sub-Zero is not faster than Bats, therefore Bats should be able to use at least one of his gadgets before Zero's attacks get near him. There's also the fact that Bats can, indeed, dodge.
"King Saturn said:How do we know Sub Zero isnt faster than Batman ? There isnt much evidence to say he is or isnt... and Sub Zero has multiple forms of Ice Attacks... he could use the Ice Rain attack or other forms as well...Who says Bats will get a chance to use his gadgets here ? Sub Zero could easy take him out with the use of his Ice Attacks..."Sub-Zero is not faster than Bats, therefore Bats should be able to use at least one of his gadgets before Zero's attacks get near him. There's also the fact that Bats can, indeed, dodge."
Exactly, we have no proof one way or the other, but as long as he doesn't have some sort of super-speed I don't know how he could be faster than Bats since I think he is peak human. Bats can probably leap out of the way of most, if not all of SZ's attacks, but if he doesn't want to or for some reason can't, then he can block with his cape, it's not like SZ's attacks are known to instantly KO an opponent. Meanwhile Bats has sonics, flashbangs, smoke pellets, and KO gas which he can use which SZ would not be able to fight through and has no defense against.
"Exactly, we have no proof one way or the other, but as long as he doesn't have some sort of super-speed I don't know how he could be faster than Bats since I think he is peak human. Bats can probably leap out of the way of most, if not all of SZ's attacks, but if he doesn't want to or for some reason can't, then he can block with his cape, it's not like SZ's attacks are known to instantly KO an opponent. Meanwhile Bats has sonics, flashbangs, smoke pellets, and KO gas which he can use which SZ would not be able to fight through and has no defense against."Well Batman doesnt have super speed... maybe peak human level or something but not super... Sub Zero is the most skilled Lin Kuei warrior of his clan... by no means should Batman be able to make Sub Zero look like Devin Hester vs an Offensive Lineman in terms of speed... and SZ doesnt have to KO Batman to win... some of Sub Zero's Ice Attacks are strong enough to freeze an enemy into solid blocks of Ice ( hint : Sub Zero has displayed this power when he does fatalities )...
Well Batman doesnt have super speed... maybe peak human level or something but not super... Sub Zero is the most skilled Lin Kuei warrior of his clan... by no means should Batman be able to make Sub Zero look like Devin Hester vs an Offensive Lineman in terms of speed... and SZ doesnt have to KO Batman to win... some of Sub Zero's Ice Attacks are strong enough to freeze an enemy into solid blocks of Ice ( hint : Sub Zero has displayed this power when he does fatalities )..."Batman has peak human speed I believe which means that SZ can't possibly be faster than Bats without being super-humanly so, which he is not. Therefore it is impossible for SZ to be faster than Bats and thus could not freeze him before he gets a chance to use his gadgets which is my point. The ice attacks that actually turn his enemies into ice take a while to charge up, enough time for Bats to interrupt it or get out of the way, that's why he saves them for the end when his enemy can't do anything about it.
"King Saturn said:But there is the problem you assume that since Sub Zero doesnt possess Superhuman Speed he is automatically slower than Batman...what if Sub Zero has peak human level speed just like Batman ? That is very much possible... then how would Batman be able to react faster than Sub Zero then ? Its all hypothetical... there is no evidence to say what Sub Zero has in terms of speed... but to say that Batman is faster because he has peak human level speed... isnt really fair if you dont know what the opponent is capable of...Well Batman doesnt have super speed... maybe peak human level or something but not super... Sub Zero is the most skilled Lin Kuei warrior of his clan... by no means should Batman be able to make Sub Zero look like Devin Hester vs an Offensive Lineman in terms of speed... and SZ doesnt have to KO Batman to win... some of Sub Zero's Ice Attacks are strong enough to freeze an enemy into solid blocks of Ice ( hint : Sub Zero has displayed this power when he does fatalities )..."Batman has peak human speed I believe which means that SZ can't possibly be faster than Bats without being super-humanly so, which he is not. Therefore it is impossible for SZ to be faster than Bats and thus could not freeze him before he gets a chance to use his gadgets which is my point. The ice attacks that actually turn his enemies into ice take a while to charge up, enough time for Bats to interrupt it or get out of the way, that's why he saves them for the end when his enemy can't do anything about it."
I fear you may be misunderstanding my point. I never meant to say that Batman is faster than Sub-Zero, there is no proof of that. You said that Batman won't get a chance to use his gadgets here and that's what I disagree with. To say that Batman won't get a chance to use his gadgets is insinuating that Sub-Zero is somehow faster than Batman and will freeze him before he can do anything. I do not think that is true, I believe that if Sub-Zero has the time to get off one of his ice attacks that Batman will have time to get off a gadget.
sonya and jax might just team up and beat up Batman and Joker first, and take them out, Liu Kang owns Shang tsung, i think when its all said and done Liu Kang will be the last man standing!! he didnt become a multi-time MK champ for nothing
"I fear you may be misunderstanding my point. I never meant to say that Batman is faster than Sub-Zero, there is no proof of that. You said that Batman won't get a chance to use his gadgets here and that's what I disagree with. To say that Batman won't get a chance to use his gadgets is insinuating that Sub-Zero is somehow faster than Batman and will freeze him before he can do anything. I do not think that is true, I believe that if Sub-Zero has the time to get off one of his ice attacks that Batman will have time to get off a gadget."Ah Huh... but how will Batman dodge Sub Zero's Ice Attacks... while they are in motion ? There arent always moving as slow as they are seen in the game... Sub Zero may not be faster than Batman but if he is near the same speed... and the projectile he launches or the ice rain attack moves faster than Sub Zero himself... his attacks will be hard to dodge... I cant see Batman owning someone who has mastered the Ice Techniques like Sub Zero...
Ah Huh... but how will Batman dodge Sub Zero's Ice Attacks... while they are in motion ? There arent always moving as slow as they are seen in the game... Sub Zero may not be faster than Batman but if he is near the same speed... and the projectile he launches or the ice rain attack moves faster than Sub Zero himself... his attacks will be hard to dodge... I cant see Batman owning someone who has mastered the Ice Techniques like Sub Zero... "Depending on the attack, Sub-zero's ice techinques might very well be hard to dodge but I think Bats could dodge the majority of them like the straight ice blast and the one where he freezes the floor, at least for a while. SZ's ice rain attack I'm not sure about because I haven't actually seen it but Bats could protect himself with his cape if he really needs to. I any case I don't think SZ will be able to KO Bats or hit him within the first few seconds of this match and that's more than enough time for Bats to get off a flashbang or something similar, SZ would likely have no clue what a flashbang, especially if it is customized to look bat-like, and unless he is looking away and has somehow plugged his ears he will suffer sensory overload giving Bats plenty of time to finish him off. If that doesn't work for some reason Bats could use smoke pellets and simply fade away into the chaos that is probably going on, using his stealth to hide and wait for the perfect time to strike. If that doesn't work Bats could throw an exploding batarang at SZ's feet, assuming SZ launched an ice attack at the same time Bats would become temporarily immobile and SZ would most likely be KO'd. If that doesn't work Bats could close the gap between them (using sonics or something to throw off SZ's aiming if he tries for an ice attack) and surprise SZ with knockout gas.
"King Saturn said:SZNice Summary... I guess you get the cake hereAh Huh... but how will Batman dodge Sub Zero's Ice Attacks... while they are in motion ? There arent always moving as slow as they are seen in the game... Sub Zero may not be faster than Batman but if he is near the same speed... and the projectile he launches or the ice rain attack moves faster than Sub Zero himself... his attacks will be hard to dodge... I cant see Batman owning someone who has mastered the Ice Techniques like Sub Zero... "Depending on the attack, Sub-zero's ice techinques might very well be hard to dodge but I think Bats could dodge the majority of them like the straight ice blast and the one where he freezes the floor, at least for a while. SZ's ice rain attack I'm not sure about because I haven't actually seen it but Bats could protect himself with his cape if he really needs to. I any case I don't think SZ will be able to KO Bats or hit him within the first few seconds of this match and that's more than enough time for Bats to get off a flashbang or something similar, SZ would likely have no clue what a flashbang, especially if it is customized to look bat-like, and unless he is looking away and has somehow plugged his ears he will suffer sensory overload giving Bats plenty of time to finish him off. If that doesn't work for some reason Bats could use smoke pellets and simply fade away into the chaos that is probably going on, using his stealth to hide and wait for the perfect time to strike. If that doesn't work Bats could throw an exploding batarang at SZ's feet, assuming SZ launched an ice attack at the same time Bats would become temporarily immobile and SZ would most likely be KO'd. If that doesn't work Bats could close the gap between them (using sonics or something to throw off SZ's aiming if he tries for an ice attack) and surprise SZ with knockout gas."
lol
"Swagga Boy said:"Shang Tsung has defeated Liu Kang though as well..."Kang beat Shang tsung so i dont see how he would win
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yeah shang tsung did defeated liu kang but not by himself he needed help in order to defeat and kill liu kang.
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