Roy Mustang vs Combustion Benders

Roy Mustang, the Flame Alchemist, goes up against the only two combustion benders known, Combustion Man and P'Li.

Morals: off

Bloodlust: on

1 week prep

They only know of eachother that they can create fire

Roy (FMAB) has a spare pair of gloves, just in case

It's a bright and sunny day and the fight takes place in an post-apocalyptic version of NYC and start a hundred meters apart:

From the little I know of Roy he should be able to win via greater control and manipulation, but I don't actually know much about him

Inclining towards roy. His control over flames was superb. Plus tiny miniskirts ;)

Roy beats any bender.

A case can be made for the team if they engage him tactically.

Roy has far greater firepower, aim and range. During the Ishval war, he nuked what was about a city block's level worth of area from a distance.

Roy.

Roy Mustang because he's faster and has a better power output.

Roy stomps, he'll level the entire field with fire since it's bloodlust on

Are we all forgetting that the Combustion Benders are also normal Fire Benders and thus could avoid Roy's attacks by bending his fire?

@arathorn_ii: roy's flame seems stronger than what they usually show. More so, faster and precise.

They aren't going to be avoiding or doing anything to pinpoint explosions to the face. Not to mention Roy can separate the fire into hydrogen and oxygen and blow their own flames up in their faces.

@princearagorn1: Couldn't the Benders also not just blow him up? They are in effective range

Roy's fire travels as a spark and ignites into flames when it hits his target (he hits his target 99% of the time & he can use pinpoint attacks to take out opponents eyes).

Roy stomps!

@arathorn_ii: roy is fast enough to keep up with scar though.

@princearagorn1: But Scare does not explode things with his mind ;)

This a tremendous spite...

General knowledge that they can make fire? That's is!? Before the fight starts all he has to do is hold his hands up like he's going to surrender then snap his fingers.

I mean that's how i personally would start that fight off my powers were to create a combustion from the air. Don't the benders have to use Tien's eye?

@arathorn_ii: but he's a lot faster than them. Roy is pretty good at range himself, remember the rebellion?

@princearagorn1: Yes, I remember, all I'm saying is that the Combustion Benders have a shot

@esquirehulk: Well, bloodlust is on so I don't think they'll be like: ''Oh, he surrenders, lets not attack him at all''

Roy Mustang should emerge victorious. Most of my reasons for choosing him have been mentioned already.

Roy wrecks P'li and SSBM.

At a hundred meters(300+) feet, Roy has all the distance he needs. Their attacks will not reach him before his does. As soon as the finger snap happens, the explosion is there.

Not a good battle. Nor a close one. Roy wins in a landslide.

Is this blind Roy? or is it him prior to the gate of truth?

This.

He was only blind for a temporary amount of time. Doctor Marcoh with the Philosopher's Stone healed him.

I'm apparently one of the few that can see combustion benders doing well here. I think they have faster reaction and movement speeds so I think it will be a lot closer than people think.

I'll still say Roy since you can't see his blasts coming and he could potentially counter their blasts mid air. I'm not 100% on that because their blasts are so fast but either way Roy takes it in a close one

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111112704/3845303-3388413-mustang%2B3.gif

I think Roy would win, unless he gets distracted and spamed by Combustion blasts. Otherwise, he should be able to hit the benders exactly where he needs to quicker than they can avoid, or just blow up the whole area they're in. In a fist fight he might lose, due to being outnumbered and maybe out-muscled, but i'm not sure about that.

A blood-lusted Roy takes this handily.

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Combustion Benders should take this handily even if Roy did manage to take one. Roys great as a glass canon with back up but has terrible reflexes, he needed to be saved on more than one occasion because of his inability to dodge so when they launch an attack it will hit

They can also negate fire attacks.

@arathorn_ii: I understand that but what I'm basically saying is snap ya fingers do ya step he could do it all by himself, let me see you do it.

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@esquirehulk: I got what you ment, yet the situation you created (in which you said you would do that), isn't effective. And the Combustion Benders can still bend the fire Roy creates

Roy snaps twice.

could anyone blur the against-the-rules-part btw?

@arathorn_ii: Issue is, is that Roy can just blow their heads off by snapping.

If this is bloodlusted Roy what is stopping him from boiling the liquid in their eyes like he did to Envy?

Roy destroys them...

P'li solos.

Love Roy, but he doesn't stand a chance here

Roy melts their eyeballs like he did to Envy, gg.

@_philosoraptor_: Nothing about flame alchemy implies it's instantaneous, infact we have seen fodder characters out run it and it should be easily bendable to a competent fire bender like P'li

@killianduclark: What, it seemed instantaneous to me, one snap of his finger he is able to instantly able to melt Envys eyes, how is that not instant? The only character who dodged it was King Bradley who is FTE speed.

Roy can leave the explosion as small as a spark until it hits their eyes and burns them out of the sockets. He has incredibly control and accuracy and his form of projection is faster and reaches the opponent faster, this team gets wrecked.

Roy uses tiny flames to destroy their eyelids. Envy had super strength, regen, durability etc & got embarrassed. What are humans going to do?

@_philosoraptor_:

https://youtu.be/uw_4kkncOlE

At the 1:43 mark a bunch of fodder humans dodge the a homing flame snap.

In the same video at the same video we see multiple times that the attack must first travel from him to his target. It isn't instantaneous.

Plus, Avatar characters have better speed reactions than the average FMA characters.

Explosion timing isn't impossible for P'li

@cupofreality1:

<What are humans going to do?>

If a regular humans can jump 20 feet straight into the air, fire explosive beams and out react to explosion, yes they stand a good chance of winning

@killianduclark: Tbh he has full control of his ability and can control the speed of the attack, one could argue in the context, he wasn't trying to kill the soldiers but rather just push them back or get them to run by displaying his power or give them a chance to run away because it isn't in character for Mustang to kill soldiers just doing their job in a bloodlusted manner.

at 1:59 of the clip against opponents he could go all out on, he encircled the immortal army, about 30/50 of them with much better durability than a human and instantly vaporized them, much superior control than any firebender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ahkk2tCUG0

at 1:57 of this clip, a bloodlusted Roys snap is FTE because Envy didn't even react.

@_philosoraptor_:

Yes I'm aware he's capable of controlling the intensity and speed of his alchemy but even then it still has a travel time.

As it's explained, when he snaps with his ignition gloves, he generates sparks, he then manipulates the oxygen density in the air to guide and increase the potency of the explosions

The closer you are obviously the shorter the explosion has to travel and less time needed to react. Since this a duo vs solo fight, and Roy is a battle tactician he would likely strike first against the opponent he deems the biggest threat Combustion Man, allowing P'li to prep an attack or counter.

Something, she's shown capable of doing on multiple occasions

https://youtu.be/wXyw4NDAMmk

@killianduclark: The team has no defense for Roy melting their eyeballs, something the team has no counter for, Roy insta-wins imo 10/10.

@_philosoraptor_: I just went on an entire tangent explaining why Flame Alchemy isn't instantaneous and thus be deflected, but instead of debunking or countering you just repeat the same thing.

Okay

P'li one shots

@killianduclark: teams projectile speeds are way slower than Roys, so it doesn't matter. Did you see the clip of him killing the entire immortal army in less than 3 seconds? Thats what happens to TLA universe.

Roy snaps his fingers and the team begins writhing in pain as every inch of his skin is seared.

Roy's flame alchemy is far, far faster than firebending, and much less predictable. A firebender cannot react to the small spark that comes from Roy's glove in time before they are burnt. If they're still conscious after the first explosion, then they'd be in far too much pain to deal with the follow up explosion.

A firebender throws fire at an opponent with a punch. Mustang snaps his fingers and explosions appear at the target.

Even if the firebender could react to the spark, they can't retaliate. Mustang would have transmuted the air around them into a combustable gas for his alchemy. Creating fire to throw at Mustang would only ignite the gas and incinerate the firebender before it traveled to Mustang.