Roy Mustang vs Avatar Aang/Avatar Korra

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For this fight, we have the Colonel against the two avatars! Aang and korra will limited to two elements each, and NO avatar state. Aang has earth and air, while korra has fire and water. To clarify, it is brotherhood Roy.

Avatar team has full knowledge each round

Battle takes place inside the Petranaki arena, they start 40m apart.

Round 1: All normal, elements limited

Round 2: Roy has full knowledge.

Round 3: Roy has a philosophers stone, avatars use all 4 elements.

Round 4: Roy has a philosophers stone, aang can go in to avatar state, but not korra. All elements open.

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#2  Edited By itzxsloth345

Bump, phone glitch accidentally made me delete the last thread. Just reposting and trying to resume discussions.

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Like I said before, Roy stomps. And with a Philosopher's Stone, soloes the Avatarverse.

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Aang and Korra.

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Any round Roy has the stone I think it's a stomp.

The fact that both can't firebend in the first round is a major disadvantage. That being said... Aang may be able to use airbending to counter Roy, but I see it being much less effective than firebending. Think Combustion man, but Roy can rapidfire. So gonna give the first round to Roy what with his military training as well even if the avatars have full knowledge.

Round 2 I see being pretty good if I understand the setup correctly, no avatar state but they can use all the elements? The fact both avatars would be attacking together would give Roy a lot of trouble. Still... I'm gonna go with Roy here after a really good battle. Especially with full knowledge but even without I see him edging it out being trained by the military.

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#7 Lunacyde  Moderator

@pacpanda said:

Like I said before, Roy stomps. And with a Philosopher's Stone, soloes the Avatarverse.

What does a philosopher's stone do?

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@lunacyde: http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Philosopher%27s_Stone

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Roy will win with hard diff, but with the Philosopher's stone.

He rapes Avatardverse.

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@lunacyde: http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Philosopher%27s_Stone

Okay, it's a power booster, but that really still gives me no idea what he can do with it. What is the damage output he can achieve with it?

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Roy has the Stone? He wins.

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@pacpanda said:

Like I said before, Roy stomps. And with a Philosopher's Stone, soloes the Avatarverse.

Pretty much this. He'd most likely lose his mind in the process, but he'd definitely do a number.

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Roy has the Stone? He wins.

The Stone? From what I just read there are multiple.

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@lunacyde said:

@mysticmedivh said:

Roy has the Stone? He wins.

The Stone? From what I just read there are multiple.

Stone is capitalized as it is not just another stone.

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@lunacyde said:

@mysticmedivh said:

Roy has the Stone? He wins.

The Stone? From what I just read there are multiple.

Well it can exist as a solid and liquid. It can look like a sphere, crystal, or fluid in a vial.

The stones are created through sacrificing human lives, they contain their souls. There is no limit to how many individual stones can be made, but the more souls in a single stone the more potent and powerful it is.

It could have a hundred souls, or two million.

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@lunacyde said:

@itzxsloth345 said:

@lunacyde: http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Philosopher%27s_Stone

Okay, it's a power booster, but that really still gives me no idea what he can do with it. What is the damage output he can achieve with it?

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@lunacyde said:

@itzxsloth345 said:

@lunacyde: http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Philosopher%27s_Stone

Okay, it's a power booster, but that really still gives me no idea what he can do with it. What is the damage output he can achieve with it?

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If that is what he can do WITH a stone, Korra and and can probably tank most of his blasts when he doesn't have it. With it i agree though he wins this match, but certainly can't solo the Avatarverse.

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#24  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

@itzxsloth345: Rounds 3 and 4 I think he wins. I don't know about 1 and 2 yet.

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Before stone, the avatars take it. Roy takes rounds 3 and 4, with 4 giving him more trouble since Aang gets the avatar state. Unless... if it's Roy before the end of Brotherhood, then the avatars take all rounds since all they gotta do is mess up Roy's gloves. Since they have full knowledge, they'll know to aim for his hands.

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#27  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

Just got started watching FMA:Brotherhood and honestly so far it looks to me like the Avatars should be able to take the first two rounds with difficulty. They do say multiple times he's basically useless on rainy days. Now I will admit I'm only on episode ten so it's entirely possible he gets more powerful/better feats, but so far I haven't seen anything that should give him a majority in the first two rounds.

With the philosopher's stone he's not soloing the Avatarverse. Granted it depends how many souls or lives or whatever are contained in it, but it's power is not infinite and can be quickly expended performing feats on that level.

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R1: Team

R2: Team

R3: Roy Mustang

R4: Roy Mustang

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Roy has already shown in a flashback that with no Philosopher's Stone he can already cause explosions from multiple kilometers away that reach at least city block level. With a PS, the Avatars are going to get nuked. Period.

Especially if Kimblee razing a whole town district is anything to go by.

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#31  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

@lunacyde: How you liking it so far?

I'm loving the storyline. Some of the classic anime stuff like all the yelling when there doesn't need to be yelling is annoying, but overall it's an instant favorite.

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Roy wouldn't kill two kids though. Not off the bat. It'd be like the fight with Ed, just causing explosions near them. Aang is fast enough to through up and air shield and Korra can deflect the fire-

Korra White Lotus Fire

And she has some kick@ss waterbending

So I'd say together they have a good chance, if they play smart and attack him with large amounts of water.

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#33  Edited By itzxsloth345

@joewell: whats your vote on the rounds?

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@itzxsloth345: Round 1 and 2 go to the Avatars because of waterbending and morals.

Round 3 and 4 go to Roy, because he can transmute water into something else with the Stone.

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@joewell: For debates sake, mustang has been known to turn water in to a highly volatile substance

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@itzxsloth345: I'm aware, but

He wouldn't have a way to ignite it. And Korra can bend already existing Fire.

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Roy Mustang would win every round. It's not like his morality is beyond lightning kids on fire; he was going to do it FM.

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@isaac_clarke: That was during a war that he regrets heavily. If we were to take the current Roy, he wouldn't go back into that war, and therefor wouldn't instantly kill two kids.

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Roy should he's able to exsplode the water in your eyes

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#41  Edited By SaitamaBro

@lunacyde said:

@itzxsloth345 said:

@lunacyde: http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Philosopher%27s_Stone

Okay, it's a power booster, but that really still gives me no idea what he can do with it. What is the damage output he can achieve with it?

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I know he is probably stronger than this, because there is no way this is enough power to take on the AS. Do you have something better?

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@jacthripper said:

@lunacyde said:

@itzxsloth345 said:

@lunacyde: http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Philosopher%27s_Stone

Okay, it's a power booster, but that really still gives me no idea what he can do with it. What is the damage output he can achieve with it?

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I know he is probably stronger than this, because there is no way this is enough power to take on the AS. Do you have something better?

That's more than enough take on AS. You're confused by the size, the blast is taking blace between the buildings in front of him.

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Morality ON
I think korra and Ang would win everytime. Roy's power is not suited for knockouts. And his h2h is lackluster.

Morality Off
Roy would outright murder Korra and Ang, his alchemy is made for killing and destroying things.
It's way to fast for Korra or Aang to dodge and can easily blow half her up or her eyes before she can bend anything important.
The only problem for Roy would be if Korra figured out that the gloves are made by flint(not the correct thing but you understand) and that he needs a ignition for his alchemy. So if his gloves are wet its game over.
But the way he tortured Envy with blowing his eyes out from behind instantly and the way his alchemy travels with such speed is almost non bendable.
I might be mistaken but in FMA his alchemy travels by air and could be stopped if the air was manipulated so he would also be in trouble if Aang figures out that Roy uses gases and the oxygen in the air for his alchemy. But in the end i think Roy would win 3 out of 4 rounds for sure.
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No, i'm not. He is going up against someone that can create an island and push it away from the mainland, go under the earth and then behind him, transform the earth under him in lava, open a giant hole in the earth and swallow him with it, and decapitate him with airbending.

Aang and Zuko could avoid getting hit by Combustion Man's explosions, now i know they are weaker but this is normal Aang, in the AS he is hundreds or thousands time stronger than this. He will need a more powerful explosion.

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#45  Edited By anthp2000  Moderator

AS Aang one shots Roy with the stone.

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#46  Edited By helloman

Roy wins every round.

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thing is, I don't see roy dealing any damage to an the elemental sphere. He uses a spark for ignition, and that clearly won't make it past.

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With full knowlege I could see the avatar team burning his gloves and ending the fights very early. Or earthbending the whole arena especially when and gets the avatar state.