#1 Edited by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 2 HW & LW Tournament Young Justice VS Donave

YoungJustice-Thor & Super Skrull

dondave-Superman & Invincible

RULES

  • You win by debating for your team.
  • No BFR
  • Fight to death or KO
  • Fight takes place on Merged Marvel & DC earth ( City )
  • If debate comes to a standstill, users are allowed to vote
  • Pre-Flashpoint DC characters
  • Current Marvel characters ( Classic Thor & Current Thor feats )
  • Make good cases
  • No Prep
  • Standard Gear
  • Morals Off

BEGIN !

#2 Posted by Killemall (18283 posts) - - Show Bio

On wow this looks a little one sided. Lets see how it plays out.

#3 Posted by dondave (34595 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok. I'll start.

As always with. Its his lack of reaction time that he loses fights. And that is the opposite with Superman, so it will not be hard for Superman to speed blitz Thor.

Super Skrull is barely a 100 tonner, while Invincible has shown he is over the 400 tonne mark and has gotten stronger since then. Invincible had a very high durability level in being able to survive Las Vegas being turn into glass so he can survive and endure anything the Super skrull throws at him

#4 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

On wow this looks a little one sided. Lets see how it plays out.

How is it one-sided ?

#5 Posted by Killemall (18283 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: Well Superman vs Thor has been done to death, and Superman speed should give him a win, specially since its morals off. Superskrull has always had huge problem when he goes above class 100, Silver surfer stomped him, thor stomped him, he had one short fight with Thanos and i dont need to explain how that went. Super skrull despite his versatility has very little durability.

#6 Posted by RoyHarperBLOW (1494 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@jeanroygrant: Well Superman vs Thor has been done to death, and Superman speed should give him a win, specially since its morals off. Superskrull has always had huge problem when he goes above class 100, Silver surfer stomped him, thor stomped him, he had one short fight with Thanos and i dont need to explain how that went. Super skrull despite his versatility has very little durability.

THIS.

#7 Posted by YoungJustice (6683 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Ok. I'll start.

As always with. Its his lack of reaction time that he loses fights. And that is the opposite with Superman, so it will not be hard for Superman to speed blitz Thor.

Super Skrull is barely a 100 tonner, while Invincible has shown he is over the 400 tonne mark and has gotten stronger since then. Invincible had a very high durability level in being able to survive Las Vegas being turn into glass so he can survive and endure anything the Super skrull throws at him

Reaction time he may lack, but that doesn't stop his durability.

He can easily take punches from Rogue (Who's hand should have broke)

Also, even in a bloodlusted state, how many times has Supes speed blitzed?

Barely.

In which he most likely wont, and after a few minuets of Superman and Thor thinking that they can take each other on in a pathetic H2H match, Thor will go all out.

He will use the useful attacks that he for some reason never uses.

Like transmutation.

Or how about mind control.

I could see him using time travel.

I believe you get my point.

Thor has many different abilities for Superman to even be able to speedblitz.

Super Skrull

Super Skrull is barely a 100 tonner, while Invincible has shown he is over the 400 tonne mark and has gotten stronger since then. Invincible had a very high durability level in being able to survive Las Vegas being turn into glass so he can survive and endure anything the Super skrull throws at him

He survived transmutation, not durability unless talking about durability in the transmutation field.

Also, he could just go invisible at the start of the battle and shape shift into someone like Atom Eve.

Invincible would have no idea where she came from, and most likely would stop fighting, then as soon as he goes up to "Eve", Super Skrull would use a force field to decapitate him.

#8 Edited by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@jeanroygrant: Well Superman vs Thor has been done to death, and Superman speed should give him a win, specially since its morals off. Superskrull has always had huge problem when he goes above class 100, Silver surfer stomped him, thor stomped him, he had one short fight with Thanos and i dont need to explain how that went. Super skrull despite his versatility has very little durability.

Invincible is not close to any of them, so it will result differently. Also Thor's verstality, and much more powerful attacks make up for that. Thor has moves that can one-shot Superman, while Superman has to hit Thor lots and lots of times to finish him. But enough of me getting into this debate, lol, I made the tournament, so it doesn't fell right lol.

#9 Posted by dondave (34595 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman speed blitz when his opponet is stronger than him or as strong as him.

Llike the two times he blitzed an imperiex probe.

Or when blitzed Mongul

O r when he blitzed doomsday.

As we all know Thor is one of Marvel stronger heroes, and superman seeing that will go for the speed blitz.

And you talk about Durability.

Here Superman almost punches Black Adam with strength that would have split the moon in half

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2707/10xm7.jpg

The transmutation, mind controla and time travel are all classic thor feats and the OP states current thor and I don't remember current thor doing any of these things in a battle.

Also when Superman really lets himself go he doesnt really only on his strength; he uses ans assortment of his power, as seen when he's training with mongul.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/56181133sn0.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/255/93537549ed0.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/83299590yc5.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/95647680ca1.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/92016429tx9.jpg/

Also Superman already beat Thor during the JLA/Avengers crossover.

#10 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: I said Classic Thor was allowed to be used to him, my bad, I shall change OP.

#11 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

BUMP

#12 Posted by Killemall (18283 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@dondave: I said Classic Thor was allowed to be used to him, my bad, I shall change OP.

Are we allowing feats from Classic Thor on powers that has officially been taken away, like time manipulation.

#13 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@dondave: I said Classic Thor was allowed to be used to him, my bad, I shall change OP.

Are we allowing feats from Classic Thor on powers that has officially been taken away, like time manipulation.

No time powers.

#14 Posted by YoungJustice (6683 posts) - - Show Bio

Putting up debate later tonight or tommorow.

#15 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#16 Posted by YoungJustice (6683 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay, putting up debate by later tonight. If I don't, give dondave the win.

#17 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

donave wins ! ( Thor lost :( , lol )