Round 2: DC's Duo Fight OFF(Heralds Vs Lanterns Vs Androids)

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#1  Edited By Kingant27

All Blood-Lusted

No-Prep

Moral OFF

Fight takes place on an indestructible abandoned Earth where they can go all out.

NO BFR

Fight to the death or KO.

They start 1 mile apart.

(Pre-52/New-52)for Dc characters.

De-Powered Tyrant+(Walters Of Life)Morg

Vs

Larfleeze+Sodam Yat(Ion)

Vs

Amazo+Cyborg Superman(No Rings)

(Amazo cannot copy anyone else's powers etc, but has):

  • · Atom (Ray Palmer)
  • · Black Canary (Dinah Laurel Lance)
  • · Black Lightning
  • · Flash (Wally West)(NO Speed Steal)
  • · Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
  • · Plastic Man
  • · Superman
  • · Wonder Woman.

Who wins, and why?

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Heralds

Tyrant being the MVP

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Team 3

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@BoringPerson: I forgot to call you out in my callout's; also anyone else is welcome to be in there...

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@BoringPerson: I forgot to call you out in my callout's; also anyone else is welcome to be in there...

:)

I think team 1 should win.

Yat and Cyborg Supes are the weak links imo.

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@boringperson: Yat took on SBP, and was more than holding his own, before lead was present; hardly a weak link...

And Cyborg Supes is no joke either...

@highaccuser: But in what way, because they all are absurdly versatile...

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@boringperson: Yat took on SBP, and was more than holding his own, before lead was present; hardly a weak link...

And Cyborg Supes is no joke either...

@highaccuser: But in what way, because they all are absurdly versatile...

Good feats, but in present company?

Not too sure about it.

Yat took a prolonged beating from SBP. He hasn't shown much else, to be honest. All we really know is that he was ambiguously weaker than SBP and ended up actually losing because he gave up. (Ion should have been amping him so much that he should have been able to keep going if he really willed it.)

I personally think that Tyrant could overcome Cyborg Supes' technopathy, but that's just me. In terms of striking, I think Larfy, Amazo, and both of team 1 could 1-2 shot Cyborg Supes to harshly stun. Stun for long enough to potentially cause incap with additional shots.

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@kingant27:

@highaccuser: But in what way, because they all are absurdly versatile...

So are several of the people who's powersets you gave Amazo. More so than the others here in fact.

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@highaccuser: And those people beat the characters listed here?

@boringperson: That fight could have gone potentially either way, if lead wasn't introduced as plot...

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#19  Edited By BoringPerson

@highaccuser: And those people beat the characters listed here?

@boringperson: That fight could have gone potentially either way, if lead wasn't introduced as plot...

I think having Ion should have overcome the plot power of lead. I mean, it's not like Yat died from the lead. His normal ring without Ion could keep him alive and fighting at 100% with lead in his system. (Daxamites don't recover from lead exposure like Kryptonians recover from Kryptonite exposure.)

It's more to do with poor damage soak and durability in comparison to basically everyone else here.

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@boringperson: The comic implied that due to the lead exposure, it significantly effected Sodam Yat, giving Prime all he needed, to have a clear upper hand in Ion; otherwise it was very even IMO...

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@boringperson: The comic implied that due to the lead exposure, it significantly effected Sodam Yat, giving Prime all he needed, to have a clear upper hand in Ion; otherwise it was very even IMO...

Regardless, Ion power should dwarf normal Kryptonian physicals by a very large degree, to the point where Yat shouldn't have needed those level of natural physicals to win. (The loss of Daxamite physicals shouldn't have mattered much, all it really did was deal large amounts of damage that was immediately triaged by Ion.)

Further, his Green Lantern aura was weak enough to be pierced by fuel rods... Regardless of how hard they were stabbed at him.

Even from that point, his GL aura should have stabilized him. Yat just didn't have the requisite damage soak to take a few stabs through non-vital torso organs to keep fighting.

All this talk of Yat Ion really makes me wish Hal had access to Ion even once...

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@boringperson: SBP isn't a normal Kryptonian, and dwarfs regular Kryptonian's himself, and he was new to Ion...

The Lead affected him, making him much easier for Prime to defeat, and possibly his weakness to it, meant he couldn't properly defend himself, or the writers didn't acknowledge it; or it was a good way of using plot...

Yat still was able to hold his own against someone like SBP, so I don't think that makes him a weak link here, also I would like to see another lantern with it, maybe not Hal, as he gets all the lime light; but someone like John etc, however Hal would still be great to see with it...

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@kingant27:

@highaccuser: And those people beat the characters listed here?

Wally could, but that's not what I said.

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@kingant27: not all of them. He can't beat tyrant and arguably morg, but he could beat Yat and Larfleeze.

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@highaccuser: Really, Larfleeze is well above a normal Lantern, as is Sodam Yat; how does Wally beat them...

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Heralds....

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The agent orange is too powerful

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@kingant27: he can just blitz Larfleeze and snatch his ring. Yat doesn't have the means to handle Wally's versaility and operational speed. In fact he lacks showings in general.

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Team 3 comes in last for me. Amazo is going to have some insane speed to deal with being that he has Flash, Superman and Wonder Woman's powerset and the latter two's strength I don't see many of his offensive powers being enough to take the other people in the battle. There are two lanterns on one team one of whom is another powerful Green Lantern and the other is a whole corps. The other team is a being who can fight Thanos and one who's amped. Add it the fact that his partner Cyborg SUperman has no rings and the most team three does to me is make this a more interesting battle, but I don't see them winning it at all.

The real battle is between teams 1 and 2 imo. It's almost a tossup for me, but I think Tyrant could possibly absorb enough of the lanterns power to fuel himself. Also his physicals are crazy as even depowered he was able to handle a groups of heralds including Silver Surfer, Morg and Beta Ray Bill and their only saving grace was Galactus IIRC. However I don't want to downplay Ion and will be honest I don't know much about the Sodam Yat version so if someone would be kind enough to make a case for him I'll definitely listen. As for now I'll stick with team 1.

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@highaccuser: When I said to you about ring snatching, you said he will just call it back...

I'm pretty sure a lantern is more versatile than Wally...

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@kingant27: green lanterns can do that, Larfleeze hasn't shown that he can.

They all have more powers technically, but Yat never makes a point of using them. He prefers to use his physical abilities which won't so much.

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@highaccuser: Isn't it a default capability, Yat has Daximite and Ion's power, that is versatility...

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Team 2 barely.

Team 3 comes second.

Team 1 last, just barely.

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@kingant27: no it's bot. Only green lanterns can call back their rings.

Which doesn't mean sh!t if he doesn't make good use of it.

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@highaccuser: I see...

It does, as he is capable of matching SBP, even without it...

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@kingant27: he only matched prime breifly. Wally has way better showings against prime. An older version of Yat actually got stomped by prime.

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@highaccuser: He matched Prime, with neither getting the upper hand, before lead..

Prime is above Wally...

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@kingant27: I understand that, but he didn't do so for very long. Prime should be considerably stronger by feats.

Not really relevant here, the point is Wally has better showings against primes than yat's.

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@highaccuser: They were even, however lead meant that it didn't go on as long, also Superboy Prime was up and down, he went from handiling everyone; to losing to the Teen Titans.

Wally didn't have better showings, how did he?

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@highaccuser: They were even, however lead meant that it didn't go on as long, also Superboy Prime was up and down, he went from handiling everyone; to losing to the Teen Titans.

Wally didn't have better showings, how did he?

The fact that they fought evenly doesn't mean they were equals. Like I said, Prime has also one-shotted Yat.

He threw him into the speed force and instilled the fear of Flash in him.

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@highaccuser: They fought evenly, with neither showing an upper hand, until lead was introduced...

There was 3 speedsters who did that, and he broke out after...

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