ROUND 1: X-men Vs Assassins

#1 Edited by 202122 (1145 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

X-men: Wolverine, Cyclops, Beast, Storm, Banshee and Gambit

Assassins: Deathstroke, Ravager, Lady Shiva, Taskmaster, Elektra and Punisher

Location: Streets of Manhattan
No prep for X-men but they know it's coming
30 minutes of prep for the Assassins
Morals on for the X-men
Morals off for the Assassins
Standard gear for the Assassins
Gambit has cards and his staff
Who wins?

#2 Posted by TheSuperHuman (837 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

I want to say Cyclops solos, that's based on the fact that if fights get real, he takes off the visor and ends them.

#3 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@TheSuperHuman said:

I want to say Cyclops solos, that's based on the fact that if fights get real, he takes off the visor and ends them.

with morals on?

#4 Posted by TheSuperHuman (837 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio
@202122 said:

@TheSuperHuman said:

I want to say Cyclops solos, that's based on the fact that if fights get real, he takes off the visor and ends them.

with morals on?

I could be mistaken, but Cyclops is pretty adept at using his optic blasts to an extent where they don't kill his opponent, despite him having taken off his visor. The energy he releases is only concussive (impact force) energy, it's not heated or anything like that.
#5 Posted by Mad8Baller (469 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio
@TheSuperHuman said:
@202122 said:

@TheSuperHuman said:

I want to say Cyclops solos, that's based on the fact that if fights get real, he takes off the visor and ends them.

with morals on?

I could be mistaken, but Cyclops is pretty adept at using his optic blasts to an extent where they don't kill his opponent, despite him having taken off his visor. The energy he releases is only concussive (impact force) energy, it's not heated or anything like that.
I could see it happening at the end.  When he sees his team is getting beat on and he has no options left given he isn't ambushed first and instantly disabled.
Never seen Cyclops take off his visor straight from the start of a fight.
#6 Posted by TheSuperHuman (837 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio
@Mad8Baller said:
@TheSuperHuman said:
@202122 said:

@TheSuperHuman said:

I want to say Cyclops solos, that's based on the fact that if fights get real, he takes off the visor and ends them.

with morals on?

I could be mistaken, but Cyclops is pretty adept at using his optic blasts to an extent where they don't kill his opponent, despite him having taken off his visor. The energy he releases is only concussive (impact force) energy, it's not heated or anything like that.
I could see it happening at the end.  When he sees his team is getting beat on and he has no options left given he isn't ambushed first and instantly disabled. Never seen Cyclops take off his visor straight from the start of a fight.
Me either, but I always figured it'd be as hectic as the time he removed the visor and... well.. completely wiped out a Sentinel.
#7 Edited by Strider92 (11341 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Assassins.

With 30 minute prep both Taskmaster and Deathstroke set up out of sight a few blocks away and shoot the most problematic ones (Cyclops and Storm) with a sniper rifle. The other assassins then reveal themselves and fight the remaining X-men until DS and Task come to help them. As it doesn't say anywhere the X-men know they are going to be attacked it wouldn't be hard for some like DS to simply gun down the most problematic ones.

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#8 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio
@TheSuperHuman: @Mad8Baller: So your both saying X-men? 
@Strider92 said:

Assassins.

With 30 minute prep both Taskmaster and Deathstroke set up out of sight a few blocks away and shoot the most problematic ones (Cyclops and Storm) with a sniper rifle. The other assassins then reveal themselves and fight the remaining X-men until DS and Task come to help them. As it doesn't say anywhere the X-men know they are going to be attacked it wouldn't be hard for some like DS to simply gun down the most problematic ones.

True i'll change the op to they know it's coming but will it make a difference?
#9 Posted by Strider92 (11341 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@202122: This does even the odds. The assassins are no longer going to get 'free kills' as it were. Personally I see Storm being the major issue here. If DS takes Storm they have a chance (I say DS simply because he's the only guy with the standard gear to really hurt her. Taskmaster has the aim and reflexes but his standard gear just isn't up to scratch).

Another advantage to the Assassins is Punisher. We've seen what that guy does with prep and without morals he could quite happily rig a large portion of the environment to blow skyhigh taking out the less durable members. Also if Elektra is morals off she could use her silent scream to take down one or two. Cyclops will be the second major issue. We've seen him make some impressive hits but I think quite a few people here could replicate Deadpool's way of downing Cyclops.

I'm going to say the Assassin's win this due to prep and superior tactics but it won't be easy. 6/10 to the assassins.

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#10 Posted by ghost_rider1 (2640 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio
@Strider92.

It could go both ways. I dnt see either havin a clear advantage over the othr. Especially if x men know about them. Cyclops is also a tactician master, along with wolverine. It will be an even fight to me
#11 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

hmm

#12 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 10 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

X-Men.

#13 Posted by Hero4life (256 posts) - 10 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

This is a good match. I really don't know who would win yet. I would like to hear more opinions.

Personally the only people I see Task Master being able to replicate before he went down would be Wolverine Banshee and maybe beast(I really don't know cuz I've always thought of Beast when in his Beast form(which is never gonna change back now) he would have different muscles than us. that's why it's a maybe.) I really don't see Task Master as standing much of a chance I mean he could take one person down maybe too.

Elektra, Punisher, Deathstroke are the ones I would be more worried about. Have to remember Xmen are used to working on a team and are very tactical with wolverine and Cyclops.

Leaning more towards Xmen now. Could change though.

#14 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (7819 posts) - 10 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

@202122: Are the streets clear of innocent bystanders?

#15 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - 10 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio
@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@202122: Are the streets clear of innocent bystanders?

Yeah
#16 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (7819 posts) - 10 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

Thanks. A clear street can offer more tactical options for the X-Men's ranged fighters. I am leaning more toward X-Men due to the their attack range, team work and tatical advantages, though I can see a decent shot for the win for the assassins. With this team's durability, everyone but Wolverine can be taken out from single ranged shots.

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