Round 1 HeavyWeight&LowWeightTeam-up Tournament YoungJ VS RoyHarp

#1 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

Round 1 HeavyWeight&LowWeightTeam-up Tournament YoungJustice VS RoyHarper

YoungJustice-Thor & Super Skrull

VS

RoyHarperBLOW Wonder Woman & Hercules

RULES

  • You win by debating for your team.
  • No BFR
  • Fight to death or KO
  • Fight takes place on Merged Marvel & DC earth ( City )
  • If debate comes to a standstill, users are allowed to vote
  • Pre-Flashpoint DC characters
  • Current Marvel characters
  • Make good cases
  • No Prep
  • Standard Gear
  • Morals Off

BEGIN !

#2 Posted by YoungJustice (5662 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: I can use Classic feats right?

#3 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@YoungJustice said:

@jeanroygrant: I can use Classic feats right?

Yep

#4 Posted by Reignmaker (1371 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

Looking forward to reading this one.

#5 Edited by YoungJustice (5662 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

Okay.

Thor vs Wonder Woman

I am just going to break this fight down, since it's been discussed so much before.

Fighting Skills

Wonder Woman most likely outclasses him in this field, she was trained on Themyscira.

Which is much more intense in brutal than asgardian training.

Wonder Woman 7/10

Weapons

I think Thor has this, Mjolnir has much more versatility than the lasso and bracelets (And tiara if you count that, but she rarely uses it)

Also, Mjolnir's attacks are offensive and defensive, whereas the lasso and braclets are one trick pony's.

Thor 8/10.

Offensive Power

I don't think its even debatble that he outclasses her by far in this field, she can come nowhere to this.

Thor 10/10

Defense/Duarability

Eh, its even, Wonder Woman has held back some of the heaviest hitters in the DCU, while Thor has done the same in the MU.

Tie

Strength

Wonder Woman can tug 1/3 if the earth, I think thats better than anything Thor's ever done.

Wonder Woman 10/10

Super Skrull vs Hercelues

I think Super Skrull should win this pretty easily.

Brain bubble, he would be likely to use this with morals, without them its almost impossible he wouldnt use it.

Brain bubble usage.

#6 Posted by RoyHarperBLOW (1469 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

Guess I'll Start. Don't mock me if I look pathetic this is my first time.

Hercules overall Strength and Powers.

  • Vast Superhuman Strength
  • Superhuman Speed
  • Superhuman Stamina
  • Superhuman Durability
  • Immortality

    • Regenerative Healing FactorSuspended Aging: Like all members of his race, Hercules is immune to the effects of aging and has not aged since reaching adulthood. Despite being thousands of years old, Hercules possesses the appearance and vitality of a man in his physical prime.

    Master Combatant:

    Master Archer:

    Expert Marksman:

    Weapons Proficiency:

    Bilingual:

    Professional Womanizer:

Strength level

Class 100 +; As the God of Strength, Hercules is capable of lifting far in excess of 100 tons. He is one of the strongest beings to ever walk the planet, and one of the strongest beings in the universe.

Fights Against Thor

I'll be focusing on feats of Strength in this part.

At one point the Island of Manhattan is moved and Hercules Moves it back

He seemed evenly matched with Classic Thor.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...s01Annual01.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...sHercules02.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...sHercules03.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...sHercules04.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...sHercules05.jpg

I'll Do Wonder Woman next.

Your turn

#7 Posted by YoungJustice (5662 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@RoyHarperBLOW: I smeel copy paste from marvel wikia :).

I'll do rebuttal tomorrow, been on computer 4 hours straight.

#8 Posted by RoyHarperBLOW (1469 posts) - 5 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@YoungJustice: It's overall true.

#9 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Come on man, this has been on for 2 days, get some debates in, tomorrow victors are chosen.

#10 Posted by RoyHarperBLOW (1469 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@YoungJustice: Wonder Woman has many skill feats.

Here's WW taking the Radiation Heat right after dealing with the Omac's. (Wonder Woman #220)

Wonder Woman #144 : For comparison,Diana when still recovering from an injury lifts many traincars

http://img421.imageshack.us/my.php?...man144157zw.jpg

http://img421.imageshack.us/my.php?...n14416178oi.jpg

http://img421.imageshack.us/my.php?...man144180si.jpg

Wonder Woman #191: She's powerless here and uses her Tiara in battle

http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...ww191f187wg.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...ww191f198mz.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...ww191f209wb.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...ww191f214kq.jpg

WW vs the Goddess Diana

http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...nv2192151jt.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...nv2192161wy.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...nv2192176ac.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...nv2192184qn.jpg

Wonder Woman defeats devastation

http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?...man146186eh.jpg

http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?...man146196wm.jpg

http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?...man146200ra.jpg

http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?...man146214xw.jpg

http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?...man146223tj.jpg

I have TONS more scans to show. The only reason because they don't work anymore. :(

Anyway I know this is unorganized but I don't know how to organize scans so this is best I can do.

#11 Posted by RoyHarperBLOW (1469 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

I'm going to do one more wave of scans then go offline.

Batman says:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/03.jpg

Wonder Woman fights a combat unit designed to kill Superman

1.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/...edirey/06-1.jpg

2.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/...edirey/07-1.jpg

3.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/...edirey/08-1.jpg

4.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/...edirey/09-1.jpg

5.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/10.jpg

6.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/11.jpg

7.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/...edirey/12-1.jpg

Wonder Woman vs Captain Nazi

1.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/20.jpg

2.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/21.jpg

3.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/22.jpg

4.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/06.jpg

5.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/07.jpg

6.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/08.jpg

7.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/09.jpg

8.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/...sters/WW15p.jpg

9.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/12.jpg

Wonder Woman lasso tosses the Philosopher's stone

1.http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bb7p19eh3.jpg

2.http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bb7p20lh0.jpg

3.http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bb7p21yf3.jpg

Wonder Woman vs Kid Amazo

1.http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=21xl1.jpg

2.http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=22qi7.jpg

Action Comics #851

http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0203ak3.jpg

Wonder Woman lassos Amazo

1.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/...LAv2__6p4-1.jpg

2.http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/...LAv2__6p5-1.jpg

Wonder Woman vs metahuman ninja.

1.http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla1051ql4.jpg

2.http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla1052cp6.jpg

3.http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla1053no7.jpg

4.http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla1054lt6.jpg

5.http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla1055zp6.jpg

6.http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla1057ru5.jpg

7.http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla1058xo8.jpg

8.http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla1059ch7.jpg

Wonder Woman's lasso can do this:

1.http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=419lq.jpg

2.http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=423mx.jpg

3.http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=435ok.jpg

4.http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=446vt.jpg

5.http://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=452on.jpg

6.http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=467vn.jpg

7.http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=474me.jpg

8.http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=480nf.jpg

9.http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=498gg.jpg

10.http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=502qq.jpg

11.http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=511ty.jpg

12.http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=528dp.jpg

13.http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=531bo.jpg

Wonder Woman uses Morpheus Touch

http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?i...anv230230vl.jpg

Wonder Woman #191

1.http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...ww191f187wg.jpg

2.http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...ww191f198mz.jpg

3.http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...ww191f209wb.jpg

4.http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...ww191f214kq.jpg

Wonder Woman #192

5.http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...nv2192151jt.jpg

6.http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...nv2192161wy.jpg

7.http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...nv2192176ac.jpg

8.http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...nv2192184qn.jpg

JLA Classified #19-21

1.http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=194jx.jpg

2.http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=202vb1.jpg

3.http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=223ya.jpg

4.http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?...20page075yc.jpg

5.http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?...21page047hx.jpg

6.http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?...21page074ry.jpg

7.http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?...21page087bd.jpg

Hercules:

Hercules vs Classic Thor

Hercules show's he's a match for Thor in hand to hand and chokes him until Zeus intervenes. (Blood Oath #3)



"Hercules" once again triumphs over the Odinson in combat.

Spiderman learns how outclass he is going against The Lion of Olympius.

Hercules holds his own against the Hulk in Olympus.

Herc & Co Vs Dark Avengers. The Lion of Olympus sends Sentry "Into the Sun" and clocks Noh-Var.


Venom is a mere annoyance.


Herc pwning both Venom and Sentry simultaneously.

Herc with Snowbird and Atum's spine beats the Skrull God Kly'bn.

Who Ever Says Herc Doesn't Use His Brain?

Herc tricks the titan Atlas in assisting him with one of his twevle labors.


Using only his wit, Herc solves an unwinnable game and impresses the Elf Queen with his intellect.


Thinks to himself, what would Amadeus Cho do in this situation?

Hercules vs Hulk: Tales To Astonish 79

Cont...

love this feat

Alright I'm done. I'm going offline,

I have NO more available scans so this is all I got. I probably have THOUSANDS more but they are all forbidden.

Good Night!

#12 Posted by YoungJustice (5662 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@RoyHarperBLOW:

Nice, but all I see are scans, and nothing to support them.

Giving me a thousand scans doesn't do anything but give some point of evidence.

I don't need scans to show that Thor is better in power, Diana has barely any feats of her doing something outside of fighting, not saying it's a necessarily bad thing, but it doesn't help that Thor does the exact same thing, and just has more versatility.

She may can tank some of the shots, but Thor has taken on people who can do much worse than he can, and defeated/stalemated them.

Above you see he is owning Drax The Destroyer, who can take on Thanos.

As far as blast power goes, his god blast can knock back Galactus, who can usually take on 1/4 of the Marvel Earth.

Now I know that she has tanked a god blast before, but she cant overcome his other abilities along with it.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir88-Transmutation240.jpg

He can turn pyramids into Olive Trees, I don't see why he wouldn't be able to transmutate Diana into a frog.

In the end, Diana has no offensive power, and through versatility Thor should come on top.

Super Skrull

Super Skrull has every single one of the abilities of the FF (Johnny, Sue, Reed, and Ben).

His durability would be pretty high, since Fantastic's elasticity gives him superhuman durability IIRC, and he can call on Ben's skin, to make it even more durable, then give himself a force field surrounding him, making himself extremely durable.

Then, he still has Johnny's supernova attack, which should be able to at the very least stalemate Herc for a minute or two.

He can then finish him off with a brain bubble, Herc cant regenerate his brain, its impossible.

It also is pretty IC for him to do this, he didn't have to pop the skrull's brain in the scan in my first post, as Nova almost had a clean shot at him, but he just went ahead and did it anyway.

#13 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Tournament rounds are getting wrapped up now, vote who you think wins.

#14 Posted by Esquire (3174 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Youngjustice. Unfortunately for Roy, a thousand scans do not an effective debate make.

#15 Posted by YoungJustice (5662 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Esquire said:

Youngjustice. Unfortunately for Roy, a thousand scans do not an effective debate make.

I'm not following you?

Odd.

Gonna call out some peeps.

#16 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (13820 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

YoungJustice. He coupled scans with effective arguments.

RoyHarperBLOW definitely put up a ton of scans that were impressive, but the lack of arguments backing them up eventually led to YoungJustice taking this win in my opinion.

#17 Posted by Esquire (3174 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@YoungJustice said:

@Esquire said:

Youngjustice. Unfortunately for Roy, a thousand scans do not an effective debate make.

I'm not following you?

Odd.

I'm not following you, either, it seems.

#18 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 5 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@Young Justice takes the win, and moves on to round two.

#19 Posted by Sherlock (6797 posts) - 5 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@YoungJustice: @Esquire: Im actually not following either of you lol

#20 Posted by Esquire (3174 posts) - 5 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Sherlock said:

@YoungJustice: @Esquire: Im actually not following either of you lol

So much not following going on! May as well follow you, Sherlock, you seem like a decent guy.

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