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#1 Posted by Detective (524 posts) - - Show Bio

who wins? Hand To Hand (and with these 2 its going to generally be a fight to the death)

#2 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorschach easily.

#3 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Hand to hand I'll say Rorschach since Joker wouldn't have any of his weird gadgets. I see it ending with Rorschach caving in the clown's skull.

#4 Edited by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm.... Not sure.
Rorschach is good at beating the crap out of petty criminals, but when he had to fight someone of higher caliber (Ozymandias), he got schooled.

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#6 Posted by Ultra Lord (33 posts) - - Show Bio

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#7 Edited by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Hmmm.... Not sure.
Rorschach is good at beating the crap out of petty criminals, but when he had to fight someone of high caliber (Ozymandias), he got schooled.
"
This is true.

Although, I can't help but think that if Nite Owl actually tried something other than one damn gadget then they could've beat Ozzy.
#8 Posted by Detective (524 posts) - - Show Bio

^^remember Rorschach and Nite Owl were probably half frozen during that fight...they just got done walking around in Antartica...and i say Rorschach kills Joker

#9 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio
Rorschach would beat The Joker in a H2H combat fight
#10 Posted by MrsJ (305 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker! Even if you say "hand-to-hand" Joker would find a way of cheating.

#11 Posted by Vance Astro (91123 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorschach would beat the f#ck out of Jack Nicholson.

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#12 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Rorschach would beat the f#ck out of Jack Nicholson."
I wish I could see this in real life.
#13 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Rorschach would beat the f#ck out of Jack Nicholson."
I wish I could see this in real life.
"
LOL.
#14 Posted by Kataklysmo (859 posts) - - Show Bio
Walter wins this effortlessly.
Joker F%cks around too much
Walter doesn't hesitate to kill anybody

And yes, Adrian had prep on his side from the start.
And yes, I hate blonde smart&ss bastards like Adrian
#15 Posted by The Guardian-Knight. (312 posts) - - Show Bio
Kataklysmo said:
"Walter wins this effortlessly.
Joker F%cks around too much
Walter doesn't hesitate to kill anybody

And yes, Adrian had prep on his side from the start.
And yes, I hate blonde smart&ss bastards like Adrian
"
MAN! what's with the language I mean come on is that really needed!(Uh No)
#16 Posted by Triumphant (2316 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker

#17 Posted by Graymalkin (38 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Rorschach would beat The Joker in a H2H combat fight
"

#18 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorschach bites Jokers face off... wait, that isn't hand to hand. Never mind.

#19 Posted by MrDirector786 (43416 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorschach continues to break Joker's bones till he surrenders. That or Joker doesn't surrender and Rorschach snaps his neck. If it wasn't limited to just hand to hand combat, the fight would be tougher for Rorschach and I'm not so sure he'd win, but because it is, Rorschach wins.

#20 Posted by Ghastlord (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorschach is a much stronger than Joker.  As seen in the movie he can crack bones with little effort. He can also snap necks. Joker was just an excellent tactical forecaster.  But in the movie he did not have much in the way of Gadgets except for bombs. Rorschach WINS.

#21 Posted by EdwardWindsor (14402 posts) - - Show Bio

h2h rorschach smacks jpker around so bad it isnt fun , joker is only any good when he plants traps and has tools to help him out

#22 Posted by deadbat22289 (15 posts) - - Show Bio

JOKER

#23 Posted by Darth Coleslaw (86 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg said:
" Vance Astro said:
"Rorschach would beat the f#ck out of Jack Nicholson."
I wish I could see this in real life.
"
I second that.
#24 Posted by burr787 (2504 posts) - - Show Bio

The Joker wins, this is a guy that is able to slip away from Batman countless times, in Hush Batman (who can bench press about 600 lbs) beats Joker to a pulp and he's still able to get up and run away before being taken down and He's taken a beating from Bane in No Man's Land and was able to slip away. If we're talking about whose in great physical condition:

Check out those muscles
















Also the Joker is a thousand times deadlier than Rorschach, he has snapped a man's neck like it was nothing and he would know how use Rorschach's mental problems to an advantage. What has Rorschach done: broke some random drunk's fingures, used weapons to fight of police, beat up an old man, killed a midget and got his ass kicked by Veite. The Joker would take a greater beating but in the end he would snap Rorschach's neck an laugh.

#25 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

What about the joker gas and his deadly arsenal of weapons?

#26 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19714 posts) - - Show Bio

without weapons i say Rorschach, with weapons Joker. either way it's close

#27 Posted by NightFang (9904 posts) - - Show Bio

without weapons I say Rorschach, with weapons then Joker wins or Rorschach and joker gets away.

#28 Posted by JThree47693 (2538 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorschach

#29 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker.

#30 Posted by lonefang6x6 (422 posts) - - Show Bio
rorschach

#31 Posted by DH69 (4258 posts) - - Show Bio

joker sucks therefor the less psychotic rorschach wins

#32 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Rorschach would demolish the Joker. Since the fight is strictly h2h, the only thing the Joker needs to do is to start telling Walter about his victims, and what he enjoys doing to them...Then Rorschach would make him wish he hadn't been born...
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#33 Posted by sifsclub (474 posts) - - Show Bio
@deadbat22289:

naw b!tch rorshach kills, @$$ clown.
#34 Posted by Radiante (327 posts) - - Show Bio

mmm i would see it hard for Rorschach.... Joker is hard bone for Batman, a genius, better than Rorschach by all the points of view... 
I see Rors in serious, serious difficulty....
#35 Posted by Radiante (327 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, hand to hand Rorschach I think would easily win...
#36 Posted by Jerry Seinfeld (598 posts) - - Show Bio
@Detective said:
"^^remember Rorschach and Nite Owl were probably half frozen during that fight...they just got done walking around in Antartica...and i say Rorschach kills Joker "

Yeah this is something people don't think about. Rorschach may be a very good fighter but he was fighting a martial arts master after he wandered around antarctica and plus had a hurt leg from the fall of his capture. Adrian also had prep time to prepare and he is world's smartest man. People discredit Rorschach's abilities to much based on that fight and it wasn't even finished Rorschach still wanted to duke some more out with Adrian but Nite-Owl didn't want him to.
#37 Posted by Jerry Seinfeld (598 posts) - - Show Bio

Some people here are also discrediting Joker's combat abilities. 
#38 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2194 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker's combat abilities have been portrayed inconsistently.  Sometimes, he knows how to fight, and others, he gets floored in a single punch from Robin.

#39 Posted by Agent 12 (192 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorschach can take down some of the weaker versions of Joker. That said, Joker's fighting skills seem to fluctuate based on the writer. Most writers show him as physically weak(at least from what i've seen) so I give Rorschach the majority.

#40 Posted by why so serious (1388 posts) - - Show Bio
In The Dark Knight, Joker was the only guy who could even put up a fight with Batman.  Joker is agile and deadly, I see him surprising Rorschach with his speed.
 
But Rorschach ultimately wins due to his brutality.
#41 Posted by Cpt.Sarcasma (9 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorschach is brutal, and is unstable similar to Joker, but the main Joker has is his ability to find someone he cares about and either kill them(not wise in Rorschach's case) or torture them(also not wise), but who is that important to Rorschach? 

#42 Posted by NickA (2216 posts) - - Show Bio

Rorschach curbstomp
#43 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

I think some of you must have missed Joker killing the entire Royal Flush Gang alone.  Or a handcuffed and badly beaten Joker taking out a half dozen police officers.
#44 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom said:
" I think some of you must have missed Joker killing the entire Royal Flush Gang alone.  Or a handcuffed and badly beaten Joker taking out a half dozen police officers. "
And we all saw what happened when the police confronted a well rested Rorschach =P Not to mention treating Lex Luthor like he was not their and Luthor is a man with martial arts training and regularly attends intense physical training unlike Rorschach
#45 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, they captured him.  He took out like four of them with minimal prep.
#46 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio
@oldmagic said:
"Rorschach easily. "
#47 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Can someone give me one good reason why Rorschach would win?  He's a mediocre hand to hand fighter at best.
#48 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Pictures of characters aren't evidence.  Make an arguement.
#49 Edited by napoleon (824 posts) - - Show Bio

Im so going against the grain, joker would beat him so badly it isnt funny (funny get it?) 
i loved watchmen and rorschac was my favourite chaacter, but NOTHING he did was anywhere near as inpressive as what joker has done, also all this crap of rorschac being a better fighter is rubish,he killed alot of his enimes with improvised tools. joker is just a dirty roten cheat, he can can take more punishment than rorschac and he is far smarter. in a h2h battle joker would actually bite his face, gouge his eyes, kick him in the nuts, call him names, tear off his mask (he hates that) and after a little beating he'd kick the crap out f him when he's on the floor. not to mention joker is agile nd slightly faser than you'd expect

#50 Posted by bane123456 (4 posts) - - Show Bio

@zoom: Rorschach is the furthest thing from a mediocre fighter. He could easily beat joker fist to fist, but is known to use anything in his environment as a lethal weapon.