@snikt_bamf: Different comic universes have different realities. You can't arbitrarily import standards from one reality to another, and say "and this comic reality normal people can be in Antarctica in street clothes without superpowers, therefore the same goes in another comic reality":
Some comic universes have nuanced differences sure, but in all of them, stuff like fire, snowfall, lightning, terminal velocities, earthquakes or any natural disaster for that matter all virtually do the same kind of damage and are assumed to do so unless stated otherwise. For your point to make sense you have to prove that the blizzard experienced by them in Antarctica is much worse than the one that falls in the Marvel universe.
Given how silly that notion is, you cannot. Thus it makes no sense to argue otherwise.
If you could do that it would be admissable to judge from Tom & Jerry, where a normal cat can be cut in dice, cooked, and then is fine 2 minutes later, and say "Hey Wolverine does not have any superpowers, wha he does it what any normal cat can do in comics".
Tom and Jerry....really mate?. Does the phrase apples and oranges mean anything to you?. Tom and Jerry is a cartoon rules by toonforce and unless you are trying to say that toonforce exists in the Watchmen universe or that Rorschach is powered by it, this comparison is as irrelevant as comparisons go.
Wolverine does not operate on toonforce either, in case you weren't aware.
In Marvel unverse cats die if you cut them into dice, therefore a cat surviving that must have superpowers. In Watchmen universe people die from cold, therefore Rorshach must have superpowers.
I am sorry, but this sounds so ludicrous that you should forgive me for thinking that you are trolling. If you are indeed serious, look at my point above for toonforce.
And you are really overselling that snow feat there. All it does is show that he is somewhat more resistant to cold than a normal person. That's really nothing to brag so much about.
You don't understand my Superman example. The idea was we had the Superman character from just a mini-issue, and in this story he has no occasion to lift anything heavier than say 50lbs. Even though he can liftt 100 of tons, you'd think his max was 50 lbs, because according to you "the heaviest I see him lift is necessarily the max".
So this is essentially Superman who has done nothing that makes him Superman in the first place?. So why call him Superman at all?. Implied titles means nothing without feats.
And this example still doesn't help your case because he can indeed lift 100 tons (by your own admission) and this is a solid feat that puts him far above that 50 lbs range, obviously. In Rorschach's case, he has no such solid feats to suggest the can survive fighting a hand ninja, punch heads off, be anywhere near the same ballpark as the guys the hand fights on a daily basis and countless other baseless claims you have made.
By the same logic i could claim that the heaviest Jonah J Jameson can lift is ONE pen (at least I never saw him lift more lol), and THREE PENS it just to heavy for him to lift, because we have not seen him lift 3 pens at the same time. Wheras by my logic, we'd have to assume his pen is not his max, and we must accept we just do not know for sure how many Lbs Jonah J Jameson can bench press.
Do I really need to explain you the difference between lifting freaking stationary and dodging bullets, punching people through walls and the countless stuff that comic book peak humans do that Rorschach can only dream off?
Or like if I would deny Batman is able to use a microwave oven because there are no place in the comic where he cooks food in a microwave. I'd say more "We have no specific feat that shows he knows how to use a microwave oven, but because he routinely uses more difficult machienery, it is reasonable to assume he can figure out to use a microwave".
Because operating a microwave oven and performing feats at par with mainstream DC/Marvel street levellers is supposed to be the same thing now?.
Seriously man, think before making ridiculous points like this.
The street levellers he beats are uhm all the guys Rorshach fights. He is written as having been a rome fighter for decades and the criminals in the bar fears him a lot. So evidntly normal criminals is no problem for him at all.
By street levellers, you mean fodder thugs?. Cool. That is something even people like Mary Jane Watson, Lois Lane and Alfred have done. Does not put them anywhere near the level of the guys I am talking about.
Which is why I was asking which noteworthy character has he even beaten.
Rorshach fights mobsters also, and it is mentiond he destroyed criminal cartels. Now if a ninja can easily overpower him, why the mobsters do not just get a ninja and stop him from messing their business? Because mobsters can surely afford a ninja :)
You are asking why criminals in the Watchmen verse don't hire hand ninja to do their dirty work for them?. Ohh I dunno, probably because they do not exist in that universe?
Really man....
By logic, nothing the mobsters can buy for all their money is enough to stop him; because if it could they would have bought it, therefore Rorshach is on a higher level than ninjas, because a mobster can afford a ninja. Or another kind of trained hitman.
Do you not understand that the Hand ninja or any noteworthy assassins do not even exist in the Watchmen universe to begin with?. There is next to no indication of Rorschach being important enough for the criminals to constantly send hitmen after him, besides you just making wild assumptions. Even then, fodder hitmen are still fodder.
You might argue Ozzi is toying with them, but you also do not know if Ozzie really would win if the fight kept going to the end. We don't know what would have happened because Night Owl cuts the fight short.
I am not attempting anything. The comic makes it clear as day. Even though the fight was cut short, Ozy still treated both of them like fodder and there is no indication whatsoever that Rorschach was going to turn the tables on him had the fight continued.
There's only 3 fights on all of Watchmen betwee super-guys.
Not so super when compared to the kind of people the Hand fight against.
All the rest of the fights are the super guys swatting off normal guys.
By normal guys, you mean fodder that would't even blip the radar of the Hand due to how insignificant they are.
So it's pretty much impossible to judge good how strong the super guys really are, because they never get tested much. It's like the fight is between Ozzy whom we don't know how strong he is and Nightowl and Rorshach and we also do not know how strong they are, so we can't say much with certainty.
No, it's really not that hard. Please stop pretending like they are One Punch Man or something. We have seen Rorschach almost die from a beating from thugs and that someone like Ozy can toy with him and Nite Owl like they are untrained children. All this proves that he is nowhere near the level required to take on the hand nor does he have the senses or the training to see them coming.
It's really not that complicated.
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