Ronan vs Major Force

No prep time 

 

Big ups nice battle

Im thinking Major Force but id better wait for Static.

This would be a decent match. I'm going to say Ronan due to intelligence.

Major Force wins with minimal effort.

Major Force holds the advantage in physical stats. But, Ronan will not have that kind of battle with him. Ronan's shields can block Major Force's energy blasts and dark matter blasts, as well. If Ronan wanted to, he could teleport Major Force away for an easy win, stop him with a barrier of absolute zero to incapacitate him, or create a localized black hole to suck him in.

" Major Force holds the advantage in physical stats. But, Ronan will not have that kind of battle with him. Ronan's shields can block Major Force's energy blasts and dark matter blasts, as well. If Ronan wanted to, he could teleport Major Force away for an easy win, stop him with a barrier of absolute zero to incapacitate him, or create a localized black hole to suck him in.

Ronan wins.

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 But, Ronan will not have that kind of battle with him.

Ronan

" @Static Shock said:

" Major Force holds the advantage in physical stats. But, Ronan will not have that kind of battle with him. Ronan's shields can block Major Force's energy blasts and dark matter blasts, as well. If Ronan wanted to, he could teleport Major Force away for an easy win, stop him with a barrier of absolute zero to incapacitate him, or create a localized black hole to suck him in.

Ronan wins.

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Agreed. "

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Ronan doesn't have a choice "

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This Ronan that ya'll are thinking of that is awesome enough to do that to Major Force..doesn't exist. "

" I think Vance's point is that Ronan barely ever does such things. Most of the scans of him being impressive are far and between from the way he actually fights on a regular basis. Even while totally outclassed, he's shown the intention to slug it out with opponents or flat out blast them rather than use his abilities intelligently (something he is capable of). "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" I think Vance's point is that Ronan barely ever does such things. Most of the scans of him being impressive are far and between from the way he actually fights on a regular basis. Even while totally outclassed, he's shown the intention to slug it out with opponents or flat out blast them rather than use his abilities intelligently (something he is capable of). "

Yeah, but at the same time, Major Force doesn't really fight with a clear head, either. I'm pretty Ronan is smarter than he is. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" I think Vance's point is that Ronan barely ever does such things. Most of the scans of him being impressive are far and between from the way he actually fights on a regular basis. Even while totally outclassed, he's shown the intention to slug it out with opponents or flat out blast them rather than use his abilities intelligently (something he is capable of). "

Yeah, but at the same time, Major Force doesn't really fight with a clear head, either. I'm pretty Ronan is smarter than he is. "

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Ronan doesn't often use his intellect either. "

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He very likely is smarter, but Major Force's style is brutally effective (most of the time, at least) and Ronan has no way of actually knowing the Major's power level to begin with. It's quite possible Major Force will end up punching Ronan into unconsciousness before he gets the opportunity to realise that muscling him won't get him anywhere. "

" @Colt Python XVII said:

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Ronan doesn't often use his intellect either. "

And, he doesn't use it more than Major Force does? If this is the case, I don't really buy that. "

" @Static Shock said:

" Major Force holds the advantage in physical stats. But, Ronan will not have that kind of battle with him. Ronan's shields can block Major Force's energy blasts and dark matter blasts, as well. If Ronan wanted to, he could teleport Major Force away for an easy win, stop him with a barrier of absolute zero to incapacitate him, or create a localized black hole to suck him in.

Ronan wins.

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Agreed. "

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He may use his intellect more than Major Force but intellect isn't even a factor.Major Force could have Ronan down with his weakest punch.Ronan isn't really fast enough for his intellect to really matter.Of course he uses it well in a comic.Comics hold characters still while Ronan thinks of something. "

 I don't play around when I say that Captain Atom can absorb as much energy as he wants. :)

" @Morpheus_: It's been awhile since I read Battle for Bludhaven, and from what I can remember, the reason why Captain Atom was breached by that Monitor is because his indestructible metal skin was weakened due to crossing through dimensional barriers. I remember scientists saying that after attempting to seal Captain Atom's cracks. Is what I'm saying spot-on, or am I missing something? "

How was Ronan supposed to contend again?

" @Static Shock:  By the way, Static, have you read all the issues Monarch appeared in, during Countdown? His page seems to be lacking in that factor. "

" How was Ronan supposed to contend again? "

Also in that scan where Ronan beats the Avengers that's really funny seeing as how two of those characters have beaten him solo or with no help from a team.

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Static Shock:  By the way, Static, have you read all the issues Monarch appeared in, during Countdown? His page seems to be lacking in that factor. "

I did. But, since someone already submitted info for them, I bothered not to touch it.  "

" I think Vance's point is that Ronan barely ever does such things. Most of the scans of him being impressive are far and between from the way he actually fights on a regular basis. Even while totally outclassed, he's shown the intention to slug it out with opponents or flat out blast them rather than use his abilities intelligently (something he is capable of). "

I would say that there is at least 50% chance for Ronan using matter manipulation in character. "

" @czarny_samael said:

I would say that there is at least 50% chance for Ronan using matter manipulation in character. "

Unless his matter manipulation is at the Quantum level, it's not going to work. Captain Atom has already shown an immunity to molecular manipulation because of his Quantum energies protecting him, and Major Force is powered by the same source. The only person who was able to manipulate Force's molecular structure was Resurrection Man, and that was because he possessed Quantum telekinesis, allowing him to manipulate matter at the Quantum level. "

" @czarny_samael: To clarify, the only reason Dredd wasn't able to cut Ronan was because Ronan actually played it smart after seeing he was able to cut the Surfer, therefore he didn't bullrush him, he used the Universal Weapon on him. As opposed to the Surfer, who, in # 1, somehow thought it was a good idea to lunge at him headfirst, while on foot, no less. It's not that Ronan did something the Surfer couldn't do, it's that the Surfer was dumbed down by the writing to do something out of character so that the Annihilators would realise the threat Dredd posed in a direct, physical confrontation. Also, Ronan got the shaft in # 1 when Ikon subdued him in a single move, and was stated to be the weakest of the team, so, naturally, he had to shine at some point. "

" @czarny_samael:

1. I already said that.
2. He isn't better than the Surfer in molecular manipulation of any kind. The Surfer simply refrains from using it on living beings, ninety percent of the time. "

1.Different user different level of resistance. Like with Power Cosmic. So I wouldn't give Cap's abilities to Major so fast.2.You mean, that Major Victory already resist molecular manipulation or that no powerfull man used it on him?3.Sorry, IDK how good in that kind of manipulation should user be to say that he is doing it in quantum level. Can You explain it?4.In Annihilators #1, Doctor Dredd was able to cut Surfer, while he wasn't able to do the same to Ronan in A#2. IMO Ronan's mm is greater than Surfer when it comes to use it directly on opponent (the same with resisting it), but Surfer can affect much larger area, create items or affect his opponents from larger distance. Also Ronan already affected tech that was created to fight with Celestials, imprison Nova (herald) or age people. "

1) It's not a resistance. It's an immunity. There's a difference. Quantum energy prevented molecular manipulation from taking effect. For it to be a resistance, Captain Atom would have to willfully attempt to keep it from happening; that wasn't the case.

2) No. I mean that Major Force could possibly share the same immunity as Captain Atom because he is powered by the same source. It only worked against him because someone manipulated his molecular structure at the Quantum level.

3) There's not much to explain, other than the fact it deals with manipulating the minimum (smallest) amount of physical matter (elementary particles). It was just an ability that Resurrection Man had, allowing him to manipulate matter at the Quantum level.

4) Not sure what Ronan's molecular manipulation has to do with the Silver Surfer's. Just because it's greater than Silver Surfer's doesn't mean that it's going to work on Major Force. Major Force also doesn't age. He's pure energy.

"2.If his mm would be better than Ronan's (in this area), he wouldn't be cutted by Dredd."

 Did Surfer depowered him? Because I belive that Ronan did it, in Annihilation#5. Ravenous had his curses there.