Movie versions, if has the Gem, the he wins, otherwise I think Thor can take him down quite easily. To be honest he didn't seem all that powerful during the movie until he got the Gem.
2. Thor wins, his hammer is way more powerful and what's ronan's strength level 60 tons or so?? I don't think they're on the same league.
@gav: What's stopping Ronan from putting him in a stasis field? Or sending Thor away? Ronan could probably trap current Thor in a black hole, too. Ronan would beat current, or normal Thor.
@solar_powered: Well for starters the OP says current versions. So that means Thor is without Mjolnir, which gave him a lot of versatility (flight, lightning, etc) whereas Ronan with his Universal Weapon still retains a huge amount of versatility. He can create zero energy force fields, hold people in stasis, create black holes and even has a degree of matter manipulation.
@gav: What's stopping Ronan from putting him in a stasis field? Or sending Thor away? Ronan could probably trap current Thor in a black hole, too. Ronan would beat current, or normal Thor.
What's stopping Thor from bludgening him to death? Or lightning blasts? Or God Blast? Or Anti Blast? Or storm of a 1000 worlds, or portal BFR him?
@gav: You're acting like Thor starts off using his abilities. He generally starts off brawling. Ronan usually has no issues with his abilities. The only time he really doesn't use his abilites is when he's with the Annihilators; they jobber hard when they're together.
@gav: You're acting like Thor starts off using his abilities. He generally starts off brawling. Ronan usually has no issues with his abilities.
It's not like Ronan starts off with those either. What' he's done each once or twice? It's not like Thor doesn't regularly use lightning which would EASILY KO Ronan.
@gav: What's stopping Ronan from putting him in a stasis field? Or sending Thor away? Ronan could probably trap current Thor in a black hole, too. Ronan would beat current, or normal Thor.
What's stopping Thor from bludgening him to death? Or lightning blasts? Or God Blast? Or Anti Blast? Or storm of a 1000 worlds, or portal BFR him?
@gav: What's stopping Ronan from putting him in a stasis field? Or sending Thor away? Ronan could probably trap current Thor in a black hole, too. Ronan would beat current, or normal Thor.
What's stopping Thor from bludgening him to death? Or lightning blasts? Or God Blast? Or Anti Blast? Or storm of a 1000 worlds, or portal BFR him?
Thor himself.
Thor will use the appropriate abilities against the appropriate targets. If he's unsuccessful with hammer strikes and lightening, he'll get more exotic. But hammer strikes and lightening is MORE than enough to handle Ronan anyways.
@gav: What's stopping Ronan from putting him in a stasis field? Or sending Thor away? Ronan could probably trap current Thor in a black hole, too. Ronan would beat current, or normal Thor.
What's stopping Thor from bludgening him to death? Or lightning blasts? Or God Blast? Or Anti Blast? Or storm of a 1000 worlds, or portal BFR him?
Thor himself.
Thor will use the appropriate abilities against the appropriate targets. If he's unsuccessful with hammer strikes and lightening, he'll get more exotic. But hammer strikes and lightening is MORE than enough to handle Ronan anyways.
i disagree. but more importantly he doesnt have his hammer and only has one arm. OP says current versions.
Thor will use the appropriate abilities against the appropriate targets. If he's unsuccessful with hammer strikes and lightening, he'll get more exotic. But hammer strikes and lightening is MORE than enough to handle Ronan anyways.
i disagree. but more importantly he doesnt have his hammer and only has one arm. OP says current versions.
Sh*t, I keep forgetting since Thor w/o Mjolnir is so recent. With that being said he still has lightening, and now he can just straight decapitate Ronan instead of mash his face in.
@solar_powered: Well for starters the OP says current versions. So that means Thor is without Mjolnir, which gave him a lot of versatility (flight, lightning, etc) whereas Ronan with his Universal Weapon still retains a huge amount of versatility. He can create zero energy force fields, hold people in stasis, create black holes and even has a degree of matter manipulation.
Thor can still command storms and manipulate electricity without Mjolnir, it's just harder to direct and channel. If anything he'd be doing more AOE and environmental damage instead of the conventional lightning bolts with his shield. But nevertheless, he can command it.
However yes, you're right, nearly every other power (teleportation, flight, etc) provided by Mjolnir is lost. But, fortunately, his axe is just as, if not more powerful than Mjonlir. It was able to cut Exitar with ease, and even slice through Apocalypse's armor.
Movie: I'd say Ronan beats Thor to death even without the gem. Ronan was not even budging by shots from Drax, whose strength i feel is pretty similar to Ironman. Plus Kurse was able to nearly beat Thor to death. Ronan should be able to do the same.
Comics: Thor easily. Ronan has no shot here as long as Thor as Mjolnirr.
Thor fans only care about brute strength which only works with brawlerz
Ronan has done tons of aimless brawling over the last ten years. He brawled with Gamora for pages before using any of the Universal Weapon's abilities. He tried to take Thanos down with a glorified club shot and got beaten half to death.
I'm not sure Ronan has shown the wherewithal some people are claiming he would show in this fight. Any amount of brawling with Thor would end poorly for Ronan, and the second Ronan started laying on the juice, Thor with Mjolnir could give it back. That is, if Thor hadn't already k'oed Ronan.
@kangconquers: I know you made that comment a while ago, but Ronan was being mind controlled by Glorion during his fight with Gamora. Earlier in the series he stomped Nebula and Stellaris with versatility, the latter of whom has held her own against Thor and Hercules at the same time.
OP doesn't say he has the power gem, so we'd have to go by standard equipment & the gem isn't standard equipment. With that being said Thor could destroy Ronan's hammer.
How tough is Thor's new Black Uru arm? Does it have any powers?
It completely blocked a hit from Mjolnir with no problem. Its said to give him greater striking power & strength. Also he punched female Thor through Dario's admamantium/vibrainum wall but ppl are chucking that up to PIS.
Not up to date on the comics, but Ronan is pretty featless in MCU. Most GotG MCU threads are really just speculation as there is nothing comparatice between GotG and the rest of the MCU yet. All we have is supposition that certain things conform to their comic counterparts.
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