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#1 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
Let the Power of Youth Asplode!
                                                             vs                              
Believe it
                                       who wins this fight takes it place in the Hidden Leaf Village.


Lee has access to all available gates

Naruto has his Rasengan and 1 tail.
#2 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll start it off.. I think Rocklee can defeat Naruto at this point because the speed and strength factor are on his side even with one tail from the nine tailed fox I dont think it would be enough to combat Rocklee.

#3 Posted by Hedatary (3768 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto got stronger than Kakashe.....you do the math.

#4 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

What math O_O this isnt shippuden forms BTW

#5 Edited by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

arite......Naruto beat Neji....who Lee wanted to beat but couldn't. Now do the math. 

#6 Posted by Obi Wan Kenobi! (27638 posts) - - Show Bio

Ima say Naruto...im not really sure if Rock Lee would've been able to take on second stage curse mark Sasuke at all...or the demon Gaara..

remember that in ihs fight with Gaara and the sand demon Naruto never even used his nine tail chakara at all....

#7 Posted by Hedatary (3768 posts) - - Show Bio
Obi Wan Kenobi! said:
"Ima say Naruto...im not really sure if Rock Lee would've been able to take on second stage curse mark Sasuke at all...or the demon Gaara..

remember that in ihs fight with Gaara and the sand demon Naruto never even used his nine tail chakara at all...."
Actually he did, just never to that extent.
#8 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"arite......Naruto beat Neji....who Lee wanted to beat but couldn't. Now do the math. "

Rocklee beat Sasuke.  Naruto didnt do the math?
#9 Posted by Obi Wan Kenobi! (27638 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"Obi Wan Kenobi! said:
"Ima say Naruto...im not really sure if Rock Lee would've been able to take on second stage curse mark Sasuke at all...or the demon Gaara..

remember that in ihs fight with Gaara and the sand demon Naruto never even used his nine tail chakara at all...."
Actually he did, just never to that extent."
huh? when?
#10 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

He borrowed err....asked the fox for little of it's chakra when he wanted to finish off Gaara. 

#11 Posted by Obi Wan Kenobi! (27638 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"oldmagic said:
"arite......Naruto beat Neji....who Lee wanted to beat but couldn't. Now do the math. "

Rocklee beat Sasuke.  Naruto didnt do the math?"
yeah but then Sasuke trained and got so strong that he could fight and (pretty much) beat Gaara...something that Rock Lee (even with like 5 gates ope) wasn't able to do....AND THEN after Sasuke got this stong and powerful, Naruto fought him with one stage curse mark...
#12 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

this fight can go either way atm

#13 Edited by Obi Wan Kenobi! (27638 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"He borrowed err....asked the fox for little of it's chakra when he wanted to finish off Gaara. "
yeah but...it was only a little...but he didnt even go one tail...or even start emanating red chakra....

noow could Rock Lee....even Drunken Fist Lee beat Gaara and the demon?


No....
#14 Posted by King Saturn (224000 posts) - - Show Bio
Naruto........
#15 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

@KS I dont think so....




Obi Wan Kenobi!
said:

"oldmagic said:
"He borrowed err....asked the fox for little of it's chakra when he wanted to finish off Gaara. "
yeah but...it was only a little...but he didnt even go one tail...or even start emanating red chakra....

noow could Rock Lee....even Drunken Fist Lee beat Gaara and the demon?


No...."
Sasuke couldnt beat Gaara and the demon even with his curse mark.
#16 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto

#17 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

Lee is better then naruto in all Catagories I dont see him losing this fight

I know naruto has  regen but you dont have to kill someone to win Lee could knock him out with one of his lotus attacks.

#18 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay you obviously don't know about Naruto if you say Lee is better at him in all areas.  Seriously, (Not trying to be mean but....) Naruto has Ninjutsu does Lee have Ninjutsu? No. Lee barely even has chakra abilities at all. He opens the 8 gates on a force of willpower. Lee beats Naruto in Tajutsu, That's pretty much it.

#19 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto has 2 moves at this Point Shadow clones which are a joke and rasangan and for him to it with that he would have to catch Lee.

Lee beats Naruto in Taijustu and speed.

#20 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"
Let the Power of Youth Asplode!
                                                             vs                              
Believe it
                                       who wins this fight takes it place in the Hidden Leaf Village.


Lee has access to all available gates

Naruto has his Rasengan and 1 tail."
Lee has access to all 8 gates? He can use them in this fight?
#21 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

All the gates thats available to him pre time skip

#22 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"Naruto has 2 moves at this Point Shadow clones which are a joke and rasangan and for him to it with that he would have to catch Lee.

Lee beats Naruto in Taijustu and speed."

Not necessary speed. Naruto used the Kyuubi Chakra without going all beast and he ending moving so fast that the bykaguan couldn't keep up. Also, Lee has never really used all the Eight gates so there is a fault in this fight. How are we going to know what he can do if he hasn't done it?
#23 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"Naruto has 2 moves at this Point Shadow clones which are a joke and rasangan and for him to it with that he would have to catch Lee.

Lee beats Naruto in Taijustu and speed."
wow.....
#24 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

who said anything about 8 gates I said the gates thats available to him I think thats 5 or 6.

#25 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, I assumed you meant all of them. My B. Anyway, Naruto if we're going by time periods they used this stuff, then Naruto knows more then Rasengan and Shadow Clone jutsu. Don't forget he can summon Gamabunta and a small puny guy against a giant frog who can crush tree's by sitting on them is not going to do much.

#26 Edited by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - - Show Bio

"Available" is relative term, you could have meant the gates available to Lee at that time or all 8 gates since, technically all 8 gates are available to any ninja with training. Just clarifying.

#27 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

Gamabunta wont come unless theres a real powerful threat  or other summoning Jutsus on the field.

Like when he tried to summon him and the yellow frog comes now Gamabuntas son or w/e once the smaller frog started crying thats when Gamabunta came  lol I think thats how it went.


But was it stands pre time skip the Rasengan isnt enough to take out Rock lee and his Shadowclones are easily disposed of.

#28 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

Rasengan is not enough to take out lee? How tough do you think he is? Kabuto was taken out by it, even after he healed himself during the injury. He couldn't move for most of the time.

#29 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry I mean its going to be hard for him to tag Lee with it..

#30 Posted by RANDOMM (474 posts) - - Show Bio

Obviously you guys are all underestimating shadow doppelgangers too...
Naruto early on created either 100 or 1000 and beat the crap out of someone. Now imagine like 50 shadow doppelgangers all doing the Rasengan on Lee at the same time, and the only thing they have to worry about hitting is the original. Tell me Lee's gates beat that.

#31 Posted by Obi Wan Kenobi! (27638 posts) - - Show Bio
RANDOMM said:
"Obviously you guys are all underestimating shadow doppelgangers too...
Naruto early on created either 100 or 1000 and beat the crap out of someone. Now imagine like 50 shadow doppelgangers all doing the Rasengan on Lee at the same time, and the only thing they have to worry about hitting is the original. Tell me Lee's gates beat that."
can Naruto really do a 50 person Rasengan?
#32 Posted by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio

You all know Naurto wins.Lee always loses.

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#33 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio
Obi Wan Kenobi! said:
"RANDOMM said:
"Obviously you guys are all underestimating shadow doppelgangers too...
Naruto early on created either 100 or 1000 and beat the crap out of someone. Now imagine like 50 shadow doppelgangers all doing the Rasengan on Lee at the same time, and the only thing they have to worry about hitting is the original. Tell me Lee's gates beat that."
can Naruto really do a 50 person Rasengan?"
When a ninja splits himself with shadow clones, he is also splitting his chakra evenly with that amount. Which is a double edged technique because it could kill the user from chakra exhaustion. Which is also regarded as a forbidden technique. 100 shadow clones is unheard of. 1000 clones is just simply impossible. How much chakra each of those shadow clones have, individually? 
Thats allot of fcking chakra. And Naruto, the original still has more then he lets on. 
#34 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

Enough that any number of them could do rasangan.

#35 Edited by RANDOMM (474 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"Obi Wan Kenobi! said:
"RANDOMM said:
"Obviously you guys are all underestimating shadow doppelgangers too...
Naruto early on created either 100 or 1000 and beat the crap out of someone. Now imagine like 50 shadow doppelgangers all doing the Rasengan on Lee at the same time, and the only thing they have to worry about hitting is the original. Tell me Lee's gates beat that."
can Naruto really do a 50 person Rasengan?"
When a ninja splits himself with shadow clones, he is also splitting his chakra evenly with that amount. Which is a double edged technique because it could kill the user from chakra exhaustion. Which is also regarded as a forbidden technique. 100 shadow clones is unheard of. 1000 clones is just simply impossible. How much chakra each of those shadow clones have, individually? 
Thats allot of fcking chakra. And Naruto, the original still has more then he lets on. 
"
Rasengan is actually a technique that doesn't require too much chakra, just much greater chakra control, right? And I know that Naruto has made at least 100 shadow clones of himself. He did it in the first book. I'm not sure as to whether it's 100 or 1000, but erring on the side of caution, I'd say 100.

EDIT: And no, Naruto probably wouldn't do 50 Rasengan. He would, however, be able to put Rock Lee at the point of not knowing which Naruto was the threat for using the Rasengan, which gives Naruto a distinct advantage, since Rock Lee can only fight with taijutsu and has no real ninjutsu techniques to assist him against Naruto's doppelgangers. And trust me, especially with the assistance of the 9-tailed Fox's chakra, Naruto would have more than enough for 50 doppelgangers and a Rasengan.

I believe it might have actually been 500 doppelgangers that he made of himself in the first book.
#36 Posted by Obi Wan Kenobi! (27638 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"Enough that any number of them could do rasangan."
yeah...if that's true...Naruto kicks Lee's @ss easily...
#37 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

when he fought gaara, he created 1000 clones.

#38 Posted by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"You all know Naurto wins.Lee always loses."
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#39 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Vance Astro said:
"You all know Naurto wins.Lee always loses."
"
Tell that to swagga. I swear sometimes when i give that guy the benefit of the doubt.....
#40 Posted by Obi Wan Kenobi! (27638 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Vance Astro said:
"You all know Naurto wins.Lee always loses."
"
Tell that to swagga. I swear sometimes when i give that guy the benefit of the doubt....."
lol
#41 Posted by RANDOMM (474 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"when he fought gaara, he created 1000 clones."
And this further solidifies my claims. Tell me how Rock Lee wins now.
#42 Edited by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
  
when naruto uses shadow clones he stays back and lets them fight  ...they are not a problem it only takes one hit to knock them out...Neji took them out using taijustu same for Kimmimaro and Kakashi  Lee wouldnt have a problem taking down shadow clones.

Naruto make 50 rasengans if he could do that then he would do it everyfight since those are the only moves he uses  throughout the show.






  


you guys are talking if Naruto has special abilitys like Neji or Sasuke... If naruto fought Lee if will come down to Taijustu and we all Know naruto cant stand with Lee there.




It says here in this video  that Rock Lee was moving faster then sound.


  


None one has said anything really to explain how naruto wins besides saying he can summon 1000 clones.


so yea I still say Rock Lee wins until proven otherwise.

edit: posted wrong vid.


 
#43 Posted by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto wins everytime.Lee is damn near the worst if not the worst ninja in the village.

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#44 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

Why would you say Lee is the worst would you put Guy  in the same category since the are basicly the same?

#45 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
#46 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Naruto wins everytime.Lee is damn near the worst if not the worst ninja in the village."
He is the worst lol but he's one powerful mofo.
#47 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Naruto wins everytime.Lee is damn near the worst if not the worst ninja in the village."
He is the worst lol but he's one powerful mofo."
if hes the worst wouldnt that make Guy one of the worst also hell wouldnt that make kakashi oneof the worst beuase Guy has more wins over Kakashi then he has over Guy. (it might be the other way around but you know what I'm saying)
#48 Posted by ComicStooge (12455 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto wins...
Online
#49 Posted by dreb101 (29 posts) - - Show Bio

rock lee takes this one
#50 Edited by Valtot (4502 posts) - - Show Bio

at this point in time in the manga naruto would take out rocklee at his current level