Robin vs Batman (Beyond)

Tim Drake and Terry McGinnis meet in unnarmed combat. Battle takes place in a dojo, both fighters are wearing karate gi and are bloodlusted. Battle is to the death, who takes this?

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@Jayfournines: Tim Drake would win. He has more experience and even in Terry's description it states that he isn't as good of a hand to hand fighter as Tim.

Side Note: Why are they bloodlusted and how? It wouldn't really make sense for them to be bloodlusted and then change into gis to go fight in a dojo, so they would have to become bloodlusted after they got to they dojo in their gis. Toxin, maybe? In almost every fight that I've seen lately everyone is bloodlusted and I don't quite get it.

@saturnssailor said:

@Jayfournines: Tim Drake would win. He has more experience and even in Terry's description it states that he isn't as good of a hand to hand fighter as Tim.

Side Note: Why are they bloodlusted and how? It wouldn't really make sense for them to be bloodlusted and then change into gis to go fight in a dojo, so they would have to become bloodlusted after they got to they dojo in their gis. Toxin, maybe? In almost every fight that I've seen lately everyone is bloodlusted and I don't quite get it.

Does it really matter why they are bloodlusted? We're not writing a plot here, just saying who wins.

Terry fights dirty. I kind of want to give it to him. Two awesome feats he had in the show without the suit:

- Pulled a disappearance on Bruce (of course, older Bruce)

- Fought the suit and won when it had been taken over

(Tim may win, though. IDK)

I think Tim would win in a straight-up hand to hand.

Terry seems to rely upon his tech more than Tim.

@Jayfournines said:

We're not writing a plot here, just saying who wins.

Pffft, well if you're not even going to try. :P

No gear? Tim has this easy.

Is this older terry(the one that appeared in the JLU episode Epilogue) or the Terry we've seen in the Batman Beyond animated series? Just curious, not that it matters really, I still think Tim>Terry in just about everything.

@Dark_Slayor said:

Is this older terry(the one that appeared in the JLU episode Epilogue) or the Terry we've seen in the Batman Beyond animated series? Just curious, not that it matters really, I still think Tim>Terry in just about everything.

Just usual teen Terry

tim stomps

@WeaponX510 said:

tim stomps

@Jayfournines: I'm sorry if I offended you. It's just that in pretty much every battle on comicvine everyone is bloodlusted even though they usually aren't in the comics. I was just curious as to why you made them bloodlusted when they normally wouldn't be.

@saturnssailor:

We call it variety.

@Dernman said:

No gear? Tim has this easy.

Dang yo .... Tim is gonna beat up another one of Bruce Wayne's kids ......

@saturnssailor said:

@Jayfournines: I'm sorry if I offended you. It's just that in pretty much every battle on comicvine everyone is bloodlusted even though they usually aren't in the comics. I was just curious as to why you made them bloodlusted when they normally wouldn't be.

Ah, no, no worries, not offended or anything. Usually people bloodlust characters to get them to fight at the best of their abilities without any morals getting in the way

@saturnssailor said:

@Jayfournines: I'm sorry if I offended you. It's just that in pretty much every battle on comicvine everyone is bloodlusted even though they usually aren't in the comics. I was just curious as to why you made them bloodlusted when they normally wouldn't be.

Ah, no, no worries, not offended or anything. Usually people bloodlust characters to get them to fight at the best of their abilities without any morals getting in the way

If Terry has his suit on still..he takes it very easily...without it Tim takes it

If Terry has his suit on still..he takes it very easily...without it Tim takes it

I think Drake takes it having been trained and worked alongside and trained by a younger, active Bruce Wayne. Terry puts up a hell of a fight though, he's proven to have a whatever it takes attitude, so Tim does not take this in a stomp.

Im going to go against the popular decision and go with Terry. He has a lot more fighting skills than people give him credit. Like someone said Terry fights dirty and while Tim is one of the best crime fighters and detectives around...Id go with Terry if he is bloodlusted. Armbars and then thumb press to the eyes. lol.

@saturnssailor said:

@Jayfournines: Tim Drake would win. He has more experience and even in Terry's description it states that he isn't as good of a hand to hand fighter as Tim.

Side Note: Why are they bloodlusted and how? It wouldn't really make sense for them to be bloodlusted and then change into gis to go fight in a dojo, so they would have to become bloodlusted after they got to they dojo in their gis. Toxin, maybe? In almost every fight that I've seen lately everyone is bloodlusted and I don't quite get it.

This site is strange when it comes to things like that. By bloodlusted, the fighters aren't berserker like it implies. They're still in their right state of mind, but bloodlusted just means they're willing to do whatever it takes to win (kill).

I just prefer saying no morals, it's a lot more straightfoward.

Pfft... even Old Tim beats Terry.

The thing is neither tim or terry would kill tim has only killed one person.

@RedRobinTimDrake: That's the point of saying "bloodlusted." You are saying they hypothetically want to kill each other in this scenario, but in reality, they wouldn't.

Terry Versus Tim. Bloodlusted? Tim wouldn't hold back. IF he was Bloodlusted. Same with Terry. Sorry to point out the obvious, But. Like said Terry Fights Dirty. Also how he beat the Joker. So, who knows. I have more of a feeling that Terry would be the winner.

REASON: In the Animated movie "Return of the Joker' Joker is using Tim's body, and seemed like a good fighter. And Stated that he knew everything that Tim did, such as Bruces Identity, so why not fighting styles? And once again Terry Beet him. My Most logical Opinion at the moment.

@DickGrayson said:

Terry Versus Tim. Bloodlusted? Tim wouldn't hold back. IF he was Bloodlusted. Same with Terry. Sorry to point out the obvious, But. Like said Terry Fights Dirty. Also how he beat the Joker. So, who knows. I have more of a feeling that Terry would be the winner.

REASON: In the Animated movie "Return of the Joker' Joker is using Tim's body, and seemed like a good fighter. And Stated that he knew everything that Tim did, such as Bruces Identity, so why not fighting styles? And once again Terry Beet him. My Most logical Opinion at the moment.

That actually does pose an interesting thought

I go for robin terry fights tough but robin is a little smarter plus he has various training and sparring partners of batman's like azrael,grayson,bat girl,and Batman himself robin knows how to fight smart

It always seem's like Robin picked up alot of his skills from Bruce, since Batman is more train even though Robins pretty damn good, I'll have to give this to Batman.

Batman 5/10

@Xanax said:

It always seem's like Robin picked up alot of his skills from Bruce, since Batman is more train even though Robins pretty damn good, I'll have to give this to Batman.

Batman 5/10

5/10 is stalemate.

@DickGrayson: That is a good point. I think perhaps Terry may actually take this then.