Robb Stark & Grey Wind vs. Mountain

Location : Riverrun

Win by Death

Eeek. I think The Mountains armor might be a little thick for Grey Wind's teeth, it's a tough one though. I'll probably give the Mountain an edge because Grey Wind never grew to adult size IIRC.

Mountain. I don't think Robb was considered an above average swordsman. Certainly not in See Gregor's league. Not even confident enough to fight Jaime. Grey Wind could only act as a temporary distraction.

@awesam: Robb was more like his dad, an average swordsman but excellent commander.

BTW, Robb was smart not to fight Jaime. He'd have a better chance against Gregor (without Grey Wind). Jaime is far above this level.

Grey Wind murdered even armored knight in the third book.

“A hall is no place for a wolf. He gets restless, you’ve seen. Growling and snapping. I should never have taken him into battle with me. He’s killed too many men to fear them now. Jeyne’s anxious around him, and he terrifies her mother.”

And there’s the heart of it, Catelyn thought. “He is part of you, Robb. To fear him is to fear you.”

“I am not a wolf, no matter what they call me.” Robb sounded cross. “Grey Wind killed a man at the Crag, another at Ashemark, and six or seven at Oxcross. If you had seen - “

“I saw Bran’s wolf tear out a man’s throat at Winterfell,” she said sharply, “and loved him for it.”

“That’s different. The man at the Crag was a knight Jeyne had known all her life. You can’t blame her for being afraid. Grey Wind doesn’t like her uncle either. He bares his teeth every time Ser Rolph comes near him.”

@erkan12: If I remember correctly, the Mountain's armor is so thick that only he can carry it. Also being an 8 foot tall hulking giant, I'm not sure Grey Wind could take him down.

I do think the battle is more The Mountain vs. Grey Wind, Robb isn't much of a factor.

Robb was nothing special in battle, and Grey Wind honestly gets wrecked.

@erkan12: Gregor murdered a horse. Grey Wind usually aims for the neck, but Gregor's a lot taller than the average man. Grey Wind would probably resort to biting and then getting his head smashed in by Gregor.

Decent commander, but made a lot of bad choices. He was smart for avoiding a fight with Jaime, but northern men are known for being brave, not smart.

He didn't just murder a horse, he slaughtered it at the friggin' neck. Lol.

Honestly he probably have better luck against Jaime, the mountain is just too overwhelming large and powerful for most people to fight 1 v 1. Especially if he is wearing a helmet without it u aim for the face I suppose particularly if you are using poison.

team 1 is currently dead

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@fallschirmjager: as far as we know, so is team two. Robert Strong's identity has yet to be confirmed

@skaddix: there are a lot if guys who could defeat the Mountain 1v1 and three (Jaime, Sandor and Barristan) who certainly would.

Jaime (two handed) is the top swordsman of his day, that much is certain.

True, but horse was static. And Grey Wind was fast, Robb gave his name 'Grey Wind' because it was the fastest direwolf among other direwolves. Even in his death he murdered 4 wolfhounds while he got crossbows from frey men. I know Mountain can slaughter him with one shot but I doubt Grey Wind would give the chance for it. Grey Wind survived 5 battle, this means he should've dodge from some serious blows. Mountain was very strong and durable, but not fast.

Problem is that Grey Wind isn't fighting an ordinary man, he's fighting the Mountain. The biggest and most intimidating man in Westeros. Grey Wind wouldn't stand a chance.

Robb fights on horseback with a lance as his preferred weapon irrc. If they're both on horseback I give it to Robb because Gregor rides with sword and shield.

But with even conditions, Robb should lose every time.

I believe Robb is the minority factor here. Direwolf has chance.

@boringperson: Gregor is a much better jouster

Team wins...

@cregan_stark: Yup, but riding allows Grey Wind to knock Gregor off the horse and for Robb to deliver the coup de grace.

@boringperson: I'm not convinced that Grey Wind could take Gregor off his horse. Much too strong IMO and Robb certainly isn't a factor in this fight.

@reiper: how???

Even still, Grey Wind was still described as "monstrous", even at the first book IIRC.

Grey Wind is the fastest here, and I'm pretty sure he's smarter than Gregor. If GW can tackle Gregor and drop him to the ground, then Robb could kill him. But I don't see that happening all that easily.

Leaning towards the team. Robb could distract him long enough for Greywind to kill him, especially if they're attacking from opposite directions.

@the_red_viper: I don't remember them being all that big in the first book. I remember ghost (the biggest of the dire wolves) being about the size if a dog (as a pup) in that book. It's been a while since I've read it though.

I'm just not convinced that GW is taking Gregor down and certainly not keep him down. I'm also not convinced that his teeth could pierce that armor.

I clearly remember GW being described as "a monstrous wolf" by the end of book 1. I'm not saying GW could kill Gregor, but it's possible he could tackle him into the ground so Robb could finish him. But as I said, not going to happen all that easily.

@cregan_stark: At they very least Grey Wind could maim the horse whenever Gregor missed Grey Wind, leaving him flat footed against an armored lance toting Robb.

I believe grey wind would kill mountain if he suprises him somehow.

Mountain vs Robb is no contest. Personally I think Robb is probably worse swordsman than Ned with the fact he is younger and less experienced warrior.

@the_red_viper: could be, I haven't read the first one in a while. As you said, IF GW could take him down it wouldn't be easy. I think the more likely scenario is that the monster kills the boy and his wolf.

@boringperson: if I had to choose between Robb with a lance on horseback or The Mountain with a sword on foot I'm going mountain hands down.

@cregan_stark: Same.