#1 Posted by thunder man (52 posts) - - Show Bio

4 really strong guys in a battle to death.
Post Edited:2007-07-09 08:56:15

#2 Posted by Blue Nighty (374 posts) - - Show Bio

the thing would be knocked out easily and rhino has a suit so done and then i think Juggernaut would win

#3 Posted by Blue Nighty (374 posts) - - Show Bio

It depends between Juggernaut and Hulk really

#4 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

If we're talking current versions of everybody, Hulk.

#5 Posted by Novaboy (112 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be between hulk and juggs....the thing would take out rhino but would lose .

#6 Posted by Ketch (327 posts) - - Show Bio

Thunder-Man says:

"4 Really Strong Guys Going at it."

...

#7 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman0409 says:

"Thunder-Man says:
"4 Really Strong Guys Going at it."
..."

can you take off the name when the staff are ready to change it back

#8 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman0409 says:

"Thunder-Man says:
"4 Really Strong Guys Going at it."
..."

That's disgusting

#9 Posted by MuadDib (30 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk seems likely to come out on top but Juggernaut might have a plan to win, you never can tell when evil takes a part. If they were having a "world's strongest man" contest, I believe hulk would win, no doubt.

#10 Posted by Iori Yagami (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Old-school Jugs would have a good chance of winning, but the current powered-down version isn't up to scratch. Hulk wins.

#11 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Iori Yagami says:

"Old-school Jugs would have a good chance of winning, but the current powered-down version isn't up to scratch. Hulk wins."

Hulk couldn't hurt orginal juggernaut at all.

#12 Posted by Iori Yagami (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Wasn't their battle basically a draw? Unstoppable force vs. immovable object.

#13 Posted by hulksmash14 (45 posts) - - Show Bio

juggernaut couldnt hurt hulk either

#14 Posted by hulksmash14 (45 posts) - - Show Bio

i think hulk can win

#15 Posted by The Unbeatable Hulk (63 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk Smash Rhino, Hulk Smash Juggernaut, Hulk Smash Thing. How many more must Hulk Smash?

#16 Posted by Baby Vegeta (168 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk

#17 Posted by Omega-level Supreme (1159 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut.

#18 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut wins

#19 Posted by King Saturn (223733 posts) - - Show Bio
Juggernaut for the win here
#20 Posted by bloodmist (1050 posts) - - Show Bio

It would come down to hulk and juggs...but juggernaut would finish it i think.

#21 Posted by Colt Stampede (46 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut.

#22 Posted by King Saturn (223733 posts) - - Show Bio
bloodmist said:
"It would come down to hulk and juggs...but juggernaut would finish it i think."
Indeed Sir
#23 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Juggernaut
  2. Hulk
  3. Thing
  4. Rhino
#24 Posted by Fresh Prince (4976 posts) - - Show Bio

This is practically a Juggernaut vs Hulk thread and Juggs wins this

#25 Edited by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio

My opinion is that Hulk and Thing will win. Cause Thing is stronger then Rhino and Hulk is stronger then Juggernaut.
Hulk's strength grows with his anger.

#26 Posted by Fresh Prince (4976 posts) - - Show Bio
mira said:
"My opinion is that Hulk and Thing will win. Cause Thing is stronger then Rhino and Hulk is stronger then Juggernaut.
Hulk's strength grows with his anger."
Its a free for all fight
#27 Edited by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio

What do you mean by it?

#28 Posted by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Hulk
2.Juggernaut
3.Thing
4.Rhino

#29 Posted by bloodmist (1050 posts) - - Show Bio
mira said:
"1. Hulk
2.Juggernaut
3.Thing
4.Rhino"

I would like a valid reason of how hulk can even hurt Juggs.
#30 Posted by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk's strength grows with anger. When his strength will grow enough. Then he'll defeat him. And if Hulk gets berserk...

#31 Posted by bloodmist (1050 posts) - - Show Bio
mira said:
"Hulk's strength grows with anger. When his strength will grow enough. Then he'll defeat him. And if Hulk gets berserk..."

omg...you do realize that no physical force can hurt Juggs right?
#32 Edited by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone can be hurt. You just have to push enough. And Hulk can pusch really hard if he wants. Especially if he gets berserk.

#33 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
Winner: The Strongest One There Is
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Then:

Juggernaut

Thing

Rhino
#34 Edited by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with Alpha. But I have even better picture. Hulk from the movie is really cool.

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#35 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
mira said:
"I agree with Alpha. But I have even better picture. Hulk from the movie is really cool.
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He looks like he's made of clay. But it is cool.
#36 Posted by bloodmist (1050 posts) - - Show Bio
mira said:
"Everyone can be hurt. You just have to push enough. And Hulk can pusch really hard if he wants. Especially if he gets berserk."

Wow...You really know nothing about juggs. Did you just watch a few marvel movies and think that you were a comic expert? No physical force can hurt juggs, so sorry hulk ain't going to be doing jack to him.
#37 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
bloodmist said:
"mira said:
"Everyone can be hurt. You just have to push enough. And Hulk can pusch really hard if he wants. Especially if he gets berserk."

Wow...You really know nothing about juggs. Did you just watch a few marvel movies and think that you were a comic expert? No physical force can hurt juggs, so sorry hulk ain't going to be doing jack to him."

That what all you Juggernaut fans think. Sufficeint force can hurt him. He just doesn't stay hurt. And the Hulk has that force. There is no such thing as indestructable in comics.
#38 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

No, Hulk doesn't have that force, this was discussed in about a thousand threads already, juggernaut>Hulk.

#39 Edited by bloodmist (1050 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"bloodmist said:
"mira said:
"Everyone can be hurt. You just have to push enough. And Hulk can pusch really hard if he wants. Especially if he gets berserk."

Wow...You really know nothing about juggs. Did you just watch a few marvel movies and think that you were a comic expert? No physical force can hurt juggs, so sorry hulk ain't going to be doing jack to him."

That what all you Juggernaut fans think. Sufficeint force can hurt him. He just doesn't stay hurt. And the Hulk has that force. There is no such thing as indestructable in comics."

LMAO! I am not a juggernaut fan...

This isn't just me man, if you go through the thread you will see others agree. He doesn't get tired, he doesn't need to eat, and the hulk has failed to stop him before.

Hell thor's godforce blast wasn't able to bring him down, and your telling me hulk is going to hurt him with his punches?
#40 Posted by The Hottness (4226 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk

#41 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"No, Hulk doesn't have that force, this was discussed in about a thousand threads already, juggernaut>Hulk."

It was debated and nothing was proven. It is all based on opinion. And my opinion is that  the Hulk would grow strong enough to beat Juggernaut.
#42 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
bloodmist said:
"Alpha said:
"bloodmist said:
"mira said:
"Everyone can be hurt. You just have to push enough. And Hulk can pusch really hard if he wants. Especially if he gets berserk."

Wow...You really know nothing about juggs. Did you just watch a few marvel movies and think that you were a comic expert? No physical force can hurt juggs, so sorry hulk ain't going to be doing jack to him."

That what all you Juggernaut fans think. Sufficeint force can hurt him. He just doesn't stay hurt. And the Hulk has that force. There is no such thing as indestructable in comics."

LMAO! I am not a juggernaut fan...

This isn't just me man, if you go through the thread you will see others agree. He doesn't get tired, he doesn't need to eat, and the hulk has failed to stop him before.

Hell thor's godforce blast wasn't able to bring him down, and your telling me hulk is going to hurt him with his punches?"


I'm a fan of both, but not a fanboy. i base my opinion on what I know of the characters and what has been shown in comics. And I disregard the crazy things tha some writters put in.

If you want to use comics feats, then it would be the same Hulk that defeated Onslaught with his strength. The same Onslaught that Juggernaut ran scared from.

But again, it's just my opinion.
#43 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"AtPhantom said:
"No, Hulk doesn't have that force, this was discussed in about a thousand threads already, juggernaut>Hulk."

It was debated and nothing was proven. It is all based on opinion. And my opinion is that  the Hulk would grow strong enough to beat Juggernaut."
When juggernaut says he cannot be beaten by physical force, he means that, and not because he is super strong, it's because he is as strong as he needs to be, Cytorak automatically shovels enough power into him needed to defeat his opponent. That's what physically undefeatable means

Besides that, there's also the fact that the Hulk never defeated the Juggernaut except when upgraded by celestial tech.

Also, You need to differentiate between "unlimited strength" and "potentially unlimited strength." Hulk's strength can rise as far as his anger, but his anger is not unlimited. There is a limit to how angry the Hulk can get, because you can only get so much angry from physical exertion. In WWH, we saw him radiating enough energy to destroy a planet, but that was after he learned about the nature of his wife's demise. That was emotional pain, he'll never achieve anytihg even close to that through punches alone.

Also, there is the fact that MARVEL WRITERS THINK JUGGERNAUT IS STRONGER THAN THE HULK.
#44 Posted by bloodmist (1050 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"bloodmist said:
"Alpha said:
"bloodmist said:
"mira said:
"Everyone can be hurt. You just have to push enough. And Hulk can pusch really hard if he wants. Especially if he gets berserk."

Wow...You really know nothing about juggs. Did you just watch a few marvel movies and think that you were a comic expert? No physical force can hurt juggs, so sorry hulk ain't going to be doing jack to him."

That what all you Juggernaut fans think. Sufficeint force can hurt him. He just doesn't stay hurt. And the Hulk has that force. There is no such thing as indestructable in comics."

LMAO! I am not a juggernaut fan...

This isn't just me man, if you go through the thread you will see others agree. He doesn't get tired, he doesn't need to eat, and the hulk has failed to stop him before.

Hell thor's godforce blast wasn't able to bring him down, and your telling me hulk is going to hurt him with his punches?"


I'm a fan of both, but not a fanboy. i base my opinion on what I know of the characters and what has been shown in comics. And I disregard the crazy things tha some writters put in.

If you want to use comics feats, then it would be the same Hulk that defeated Onslaught with his strength. The same Onslaught that Juggernaut ran scared from.

But again, it's just my opinion."

I really like how your trying to subtly call anyone who sides with juggs a fanboy its really funny.

Really? because if I recall the only reason hulk was able to do that is because jean grey was supressing bruce banner to let hulk go all out. Juggs ran? I only remember him getting punched across the freaking US and not even being hurt.

Lets look at some recent comic feats....during WWH the juggernaut was able to go toe to toe with hulk when he was as powerful as he is now. Yes Hulk did end up side stepping and caused juggernaut move from the mansion into a lake while running. However Xavier said to Cain right before that that him and hulks fight was undermining the foundation of the mansion (basically if Cain kept it up the whole building would have collapsed on the kids inside (a school full of kids). So i don't think its that hard to believe that juggs let hulk get that quick move on him for the sake of not being the reason a entire school of kids died. Even if he didn't the fact his hulk did nothing to him like always. Hulk can become tired and hungry over time, juggs cannot.
#45 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut could beat the other three together.

What part of "immune to physical force" do you Hulk fanboys not understand?  Even World War Hulk and War Hulk failed to scratch the unstoppable Juggernaut.

#46 Edited by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk or Juggs wins this id say more than likely Hulk.  The reson I say this is because Hulk beat Juggs more times than Juggs beat him. The only time Juggs beat Hulk was when Hulk didn't fight back. (Human Juggernaut heres ur Q to come out)

#47 Posted by ecsnclr (4147 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"Hulk or Juggs wins this id say more than likely Hulk.  The reson I say this is because Hulk beat Juggs more times than Juggs beat him. The only time Juggs beat Hulk was when Hulk didn't fight back. (Human Juggernaut heres ur Q to come out)"
Are you talking about WWH XMEN because nobody thinks that was cannon but i do ?
#48 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Alpha said:
"AtPhantom said:
"No, Hulk doesn't have that force, this was discussed in about a thousand threads already, juggernaut>Hulk."

It was debated and nothing was proven. It is all based on opinion. And my opinion is that  the Hulk would grow strong enough to beat Juggernaut."
When juggernaut says he cannot be beaten by physical force, he means that, and not because he is super strong, it's because he is as strong as he needs to be, Cytorak automatically shovels enough power into him needed to defeat his opponent. That's what physically undefeatable means

Besides that, there's also the fact that the Hulk never defeated the Juggernaut except when upgraded by celestial tech.

Also, You need to differentiate between "unlimited strength" and "potentially unlimited strength." Hulk's strength can rise as far as his anger, but his anger is not unlimited. There is a limit to how angry the Hulk can get, because you can only get so much angry from physical exertion. In WWH, we saw him radiating enough energy to destroy a planet, but that was after he learned about the nature of his wife's demise. That was emotional pain, he'll never achieve anytihg even close to that through punches alone.

Also, there is the fact that MARVEL WRITERS THINK JUGGERNAUT IS STRONGER THAN THE HULK."
Tthat Marvel writers quote isn't officail and Marvel will never let it known who is the strongest i my opinion. This way Juggernaut and the Hulk can always be undecided. Notice how they fight and never have a real winner? There is always something that allows the other to have the upper hand for the battle, but never a show of who is really the strongest. So everything is just opinion after that and I based mine of feats of strength shown by each character.

As far as Juggernaut saying he can't be beaten by physical force, that's just him saying it.
Hulk has one too, "Hulk strongest one there is".

#49 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom said:
"Juggernaut could beat the other three together.

What part of "immune to physical force" do you Hulk fanboys not understand?  Even World War Hulk and War Hulk failed to scratch the unstoppable Juggernaut."
Then you need to look 2 the fight again.
#50 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
bloodmist said:
"Alpha said:
"bloodmist said:
"Alpha said:
"bloodmist said:
"mira said:
"Everyone can be hurt. You just have to push enough. And Hulk can pusch really hard if he wants. Especially if he gets berserk."

Wow...You really know nothing about juggs. Did you just watch a few marvel movies and think that you were a comic expert? No physical force can hurt juggs, so sorry hulk ain't going to be doing jack to him."

That what all you Juggernaut fans think. Sufficeint force can hurt him. He just doesn't stay hurt. And the Hulk has that force. There is no such thing as indestructable in comics."

LMAO! I am not a juggernaut fan...

This isn't just me man, if you go through the thread you will see others agree. He doesn't get tired, he doesn't need to eat, and the hulk has failed to stop him before.

Hell thor's godforce blast wasn't able to bring him down, and your telling me hulk is going to hurt him with his punches?"


I'm a fan of both, but not a fanboy. i base my opinion on what I know of the characters and what has been shown in comics. And I disregard the crazy things tha some writters put in.

If you want to use comics feats, then it would be the same Hulk that defeated Onslaught with his strength. The same Onslaught that Juggernaut ran scared from.

But again, it's just my opinion."

I really like how your trying to subtly call anyone who sides with juggs a fanboy its really funny.

Really? because if I recall the only reason hulk was able to do that is because jean grey was supressing bruce banner to let hulk go all out. Juggs ran? I only remember him getting punched across the freaking US and not even being hurt.

Lets look at some recent comic feats....during WWH the juggernaut was able to go toe to toe with hulk when he was as powerful as he is now. Yes Hulk did end up side stepping and caused juggernaut move from the mansion into a lake while running. However Xavier said to Cain right before that that him and hulks fight was undermining the foundation of the mansion (basically if Cain kept it up the whole building would have collapsed on the kids inside (a school full of kids). So i don't think its that hard to believe that juggs let hulk get that quick move on him for the sake of not being the reason a entire school of kids died. Even if he didn't the fact his hulk did nothing to him like always. Hulk can become tired and hungry over time, juggs cannot."
I'm not calling everyone fanboys (i was really taking a jab at someone). I'm just saying that there is no real proof for either one and it is all opinion, until Marvel makes it official who is the strongest (and they won't).