Rex, Ben10, & Danny vs. Ben 10,000 & Vilgax

All at best.

ben from omniverse, starts as feedback, has master control.

danny has free reign of powers.

Vilgax the conqueror with all gear and all stolen powers(right after absorbing ultimos)

Ben 10,000 starts off in ultimate ben form.

morals off

Teams start 100ft away.

No prep.

Fight!

Ben 10000 solos. None of the other are even in same league as him. Inless Ben goes Alien X.

what is Rex allowed?

rex solo

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: How strong is Rex in his "god mode"?

@rbt: He cured an entire planet of being an evo, and had all the meta-nanites(time/space/gravity/elemental). He was supposed to be god.

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: I've not watched after mid 2nd season, so was he omnipotent?

@rbt: It wasn't really shown, he obviously has planetary control(curing all evos on the planet at once). It's just that after he did that he told them never to work for him or anyone again so they couldn't be used for the wrong things.

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: Then team 1 loses. Ben 10000 has shown enough control over time to time travel. He can just freeze time and disintegrate all. Morals off won't help Team 1.

Danny is non factor here. Vilgax can take care of Rex if it is regular Rex. If its mata nanite Rex, Vilgax would loose.

Doesn't matter anyway. Ben 10k solos both Rex(any version) and Ben(any alien but Alien X and Toepick).

@rbt: Except that he also had time manip via meta nanites at that point.

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: What are his feats of controlling time?

Im giving team 2 the edge here. Although if Rex has his meta nanites active, he godstomps.

@rbt: He has no feats in God-Mode because he only used it to cure all Evos, which was his goal throughout the series. But, he had the meta-nanites, which give him control of their respective properties. Here's a link to the final episode summary: End Game, Part 2.

You know what else would be funny? Alien X vs Rex godmode. =D

@lowlaville: That'd be a huge stomp in Alien X's favor. Rex's best feats are planatery, while Alien X is universal+. That's going by the feats.

Going by the statements, Rex can control time, gravity, matter and anti-matter. Alien X is omnipotent. Still a stomp in Alien X's favour.

@rbt: True that. But he Rex ascended to godhood, aka became omnipotent for a short while. As was said in the series.

@lowlaville: Godhood doesn't mean omnipotence.

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: Well, in that case there is no way to say that Rex has enough control over time to counter Ben 10k. After all, Ben 10k did outclass Eon's time rays and Eon is supposed to be inferior to only Prof Paradox.

That's a weird point to make. The creator's made a site/thread to answer various fan questions, and in that same line of questions they said that Celestialsapiens ARE and ARE NOT omnipotent. So, when you talk about it being omnipotent, it may not actually be entirely true, as they also said there are aliens ABOVE celestialsapiens.

@rbt: Yeah, Eon is classes below Paradox.

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk: Every one of Bens aliens are stronger than Alien X. Because while Alien X is the strongest alien in Bens arsenal, he is the hardest to control, and is not a viable option for use. Ben just has been lucky many times. Alien X could detain Ben for years...

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: Link where any of the current writer said Alien X is not omnipotent?

I can give you link where Matt Wayne said Alien X is omnipotent. Twice.

All those threads of "Aliens more powerful than Alien X"are fan made and is based on only one statement made long ago by Dwayne McDuffie that Akuen X is not strongest alien in omnitrix. A lots of changes has been made since then especially since Matt Wayne took over the show.

@lowlaville: Paradox wouldn't allow that, Ben is too important. And every time Alien X has come up, he has been convinced to do what Ben wants. So, no matter how hard you try to make it look, Ben has gotten his way over Alien X's 100% of the time.

@rbt: And I can give you a link to the place where Dwayne McDuffie said that Alien X IS and IS NOT.

http://dwaynemcduffie.com.lamphost.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2104

There are too many pages, and I did search through it to find it for someone once before. I don't plan on doing that again.

Then again, I looked this up a while ago. Maybe it's changed in omniverse, but as for Ultimate Alien it was stated by Dwayne that it wasn't.

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: I know. I've read that too. But that was before. MW said Alien X is omnipotent.

-_- should i edit OP to no Alien X and no Rex Godmode? Also no time travel?

@cooldes:

Yeah, since its a no to omnipotency I guess.

@rbt: Not to mention that author is dead. So what he said no longer counts unless reinstated by the new one.

@thetruebarryallen@funsiized@cara_hunter

thoughts friends?

team 2

@funsiized: reasons?

@cooldes: Vilgax was a match for Ben already, it's arguable, but Ben is greater than or equal to Danny in many peoples minds. Ben 10,000 is obviously better than Ben. This match is basically Danny and Rex vs Vilgax and Ben 10k. i swing it team 2's way in the majority. Rex is a big hitter, but nothing i don't see Ben 10k dealing with, and Vilgax is to much of a monster to lose to Danny

@funsiized: but ben beat this version of vilgax with diamondhead remember? What stops him from replacating that, or at least holding him off with diamondhead?

@Cooldes: Ben 10k.

@rbt: isn't that where rex and danny come in?

@Cooldes: This will go like this-

Ben vs Ben 10k.

Reax and Danny vs Vilgax.

Vilgax is more than capable of dealing with these two.

@rbt said:

Rex would more then likely stomp vilgax. But Ben 10k could solo all three.

@glubgluby: Rex stomps Vilgax? Lol no. Vilgax one shotted a fully grown Humongosaur. And FG Humongosaur>>Rex.

@rbt: i thought it would come down to

Ben(in diamon head or waybig or w.e.) gighting vilgax(because as ben nemesis he'll go for him first of course)

Rex and Danny vs Ben 10k

ben10k is in ultimate ben form(his favorite and go-to form) where he is still ben but he can use various powers from his aliens.

@Cooldes: No matter how you pair up, Team 2 wins.

Ben vs Vilgax- Ben wins.

Rex and Danny vs Ben 10k- Ben 10k and defeats Ben ultimately.

What I posted before.

Or Ben 10k solos.

@rbt: im not denying that team 2 stomps, team 2 utterly crushes team one.

but rex > vilgax

@glubgluby: I agree with the first part. Not with second. What makes you think that Rex can hold his own against someone-

1. Who has one shotted a fully grown Humongosaur?

2- Shattered Diamondhead constructs with sheer strength.

3- Has flew FTL.

4- Have lasers that were uprooting trees only by passing by them. Lasers that hit a Kineceleran.

5- Has shield that allowed him to pass through a huge space without a scratch.

@rbt: The factthat end game Rex can control time, gravity, matter and anti-matter. He basically gets godlike status.

@glubgluby: And OP said it was not meta nanite Rex. Its regular Rex.

@rbt: woah what? I don't remember ben 10k being that powerful... he was a BAMF but soloing ben, danny, AND rex?

@rbt: Nevermind then vilgax can crush him and danny with one hand.

@Cooldes: Umm..yeah. He's time control, strength of Ult Way Big, and his speed. His time rays will take care of anyone here. Danny can't posses him because of Ultimatrix.

Team 2 via Ben 10k.

@kelvinator: no he doesn’t