reed richards vs the leader

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#1  Edited By jec777

ok, bruce banner is smart but i feel he is not quite as smart as reed, even so bruce has been able to go one on one (almost) with the leader in a battle of wits.  could reed do better?  he has an answer for everything.  he has powers of his own. the only reason the leader was able to capture him was with outside help.  this is a one on one.  full access to there labs when needed.  remember reed outwitted galactus himself.  my choice is on reed.
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#2  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Reed.

PS: You shouldn't decide on a winner in your own threads.

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Since his are less known; here're The Leader's showings:

Personal teleportation. Hacks the CIA. Designs a pair of gloves that redirect The Hulk's strength right back at him.

Creates a device that can turn living-matter into thought, and be transported the home-world of The The Watchers, that can likewise be accessed by multiple beings at once.

Reaches the same deductive-conclusion as Doctor Doom, and is shown by Doom to be considered a "great mind". Repels Hulk with a thought.

Along with The Intelligencia, spear-heads the mass abduction of Marvel 616-earth's greatest minds.

Basically booby-trapped Cosmic Hulk to turn Dr. Doom into Dr. Dumbass. Amps his telekinesis via home-built tech.

Treats Mephisto like an idiot. Has a device that can automatically trigger Banner's transformation into Hulk. Can emit gamma-waves.

Can communicate telepthically. Employs gas that can neutralize Hulk. Can lift objects via telekinesis. Personal defense-shields.

Can assume mental-control of people via physical-contact. Resurrects The Glob.

Thunderbolt Ross refers to him, so far as sheer brain-power, as "easily the smartest man on the planet". Exhibits near tactical-precognition. Often utilizes a 'projecto-ray' to communicate.

Made and airtight deal with the devil, ensuring the absolute safety and freedom of himself and The Thunderbolts.

Plays a sadistic mind-game with Hulk. Tactical-illusion.

As indicated above; discovered, and observed The Watchers. Enhanced Rhino's suit. Even when exerting mental-control over people, they can still perform various, and complex tasks. Can induce a state of paralysis.

Gets shot by The Redeemer. Can sense radiation.

Basically anticipated World War Hulk. Mentally-controlled an entire army-base. More telepathic-communication.

Astral-projection. BFRs The Hulk and his Humanoid. Planted a mental-suggestion in Doc Samson's mind.

Plays the long-con with Hulk. Mentally-blasts the crap out of General Ross. Has a device that brings him back from the dead, or can possess people after dying.

Has a totally undetectable air-craft. Shrinkable, physically-malleable minions.

Gun that shoots his trademark Plasti-thene. Can empower others imbued with gamma-radiation. Telekinetically tosses a group of men. Gas-gun that can vaporize.

Created Omni-Vac; a mentally-piloted spaceship the size of a small city with built in cloaking, a time-machine, and robotic servants/enforcers.

Often employed his trademark Humanoids, that he was in both mental-contact with and had control over. The could also merge into a giant form, withstand attacks from Wasp, Iron Man, and Thor. They work brilliantly as a team, and make Wonder Man feel daunted. Lastly; also Super Humanoid.

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Reed is smarter than any earth hero

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The Leader is good, Reed is better.

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@slash03 said:

The Leader is good, Reed is better.

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