#1 Posted by Mac Gargan (23 posts) - - Show Bio

Since bothe there strengths don't increase with rage (at least i don't think so) who would win in a random encounter?

#2 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio

Rulk

#3 Posted by blade hunter (1813 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Posted by Mac Gargan (23 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Posted by thorownzsuperman (70 posts) - - Show Bio

Red Hulk

#6 Posted by King Saturn (223972 posts) - - Show Bio
Red Hulk should win here
#7 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut...
#8 Posted by lionheart (1261 posts) - - Show Bio

i will also say juggernaut

#9 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

If Green Hulk can beat Red Hulk, Red Hulk has literally no chance against the Juggernaut.

None whatsoever.

#10 Edited by King Saturn (223972 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut..."
Havent read Hulk #6 yet and how do we gauge Red Hulk's power level if he was able to outmuscle Thor ?
#11 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut..."
Havent read Hulk #6 yet and how do we gauge Red Hulk's power level if he was able to outmuscle Thor ?
"
his power level doesn't even matter.  Just make him "overheat"
#12 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio

red hulk can't not beat juggernaut. juggernaut was tossed into the sun by sentry and still didn't stop the juggernaut. the juggernaut wins. hulk is considered to be a wolrd threat. juggernaut is known to be a galactic threat.

#13 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Ego said:
"red hulk can't not beat juggernaut. juggernaut was tossed into the sun by sentry and still didn't stop the juggernaut. the juggernaut wins. hulk is considered to be a wolrd threat. juggernaut is known to be a galactic threat."
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#14 Posted by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio
Ego said:
"red hulk can't not beat juggernaut. juggernaut was tossed into the sun by sentry and still didn't stop the juggernaut. the juggernaut wins. hulk is considered to be a wolrd threat. juggernaut is known to be a galactic threat."
WTF are you talking about?
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#15 Posted by lordraiden (7007 posts) - - Show Bio
lionheart said:
"i will also say juggernaut"

the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut..."

Unless Rulk has TP/TK, he aint taking Juggy out!
#16 Posted by Meteorite (3351 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Posted by King Saturn (223972 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut..."
Havent read Hulk #6 yet and how do we gauge Red Hulk's power level if he was able to outmuscle Thor ?
"
his power level doesn't even matter.  Just make him "overheat""
Nah I dont mean it that way... I am talking about Red Hulk's raw strength. If he was able to handle Thor but he gets beat by Green Hulk... well how strong is the Red Hulk then ? Cause even Thor was able to give Juggernaut a hell of a fight... and even if the whole Red Hulk beating Thor was just PIS... why do we accept the fact that Green Hulk beats him so easy if its all within the Red Hulk story arc ?
#18 Posted by Vendel (345 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut..."
Havent read Hulk #6 yet and how do we gauge Red Hulk's power level if he was able to outmuscle Thor ?
"
his power level doesn't even matter.  Just make him "overheat""
Nah I dont mean it that way... I am talking about Red Hulk's raw strength. If he was able to handle Thor but he gets beat by Green Hulk... well how strong is the Red Hulk then ? Cause even Thor was able to give Juggernaut a hell of a fight... and even if the whole Red Hulk beating Thor was just PIS... why do we accept the fact that Green Hulk beats him so easy if its all within the Red Hulk story arc ? "
Thor fought red hulk again in hulk #6. Red Hulk was unable to do anything to him.
#20 Posted by King Saturn (223972 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut..."
Havent read Hulk #6 yet and how do we gauge Red Hulk's power level if he was able to outmuscle Thor ?
"
his power level doesn't even matter.  Just make him "overheat""
Nah I dont mean it that way... I am talking about Red Hulk's raw strength. If he was able to handle Thor but he gets beat by Green Hulk... well how strong is the Red Hulk then ? Cause even Thor was able to give Juggernaut a hell of a fight... and even if the whole Red Hulk beating Thor was just PIS... why do we accept the fact that Green Hulk beats him so easy if its all within the Red Hulk story arc ? "
Thor fought red hulk again in hulk #6. Red Hulk was unable to do anything to him."
Strange... is there a specific reason why Red Hulk has weaken so greatly here ?
#21 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut..."
Havent read Hulk #6 yet and how do we gauge Red Hulk's power level if he was able to outmuscle Thor ?
"
his power level doesn't even matter.  Just make him "overheat""
Nah I dont mean it that way... I am talking about Red Hulk's raw strength. If he was able to handle Thor but he gets beat by Green Hulk... well how strong is the Red Hulk then ? Cause even Thor was able to give Juggernaut a hell of a fight... and even if the whole Red Hulk beating Thor was just PIS... why do we accept the fact that Green Hulk beats him so easy if its all within the Red Hulk story arc ? "
Thor fought red hulk again in hulk #6. Red Hulk was unable to do anything to him."
Strange... is there a specific reason why Red Hulk has weaken so greatly here ? "
he got too hot.
#22 Posted by Alpha (7328 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Posted by King Saturn (223972 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut..."
Havent read Hulk #6 yet and how do we gauge Red Hulk's power level if he was able to outmuscle Thor ?
"
his power level doesn't even matter.  Just make him "overheat""
Nah I dont mean it that way... I am talking about Red Hulk's raw strength. If he was able to handle Thor but he gets beat by Green Hulk... well how strong is the Red Hulk then ? Cause even Thor was able to give Juggernaut a hell of a fight... and even if the whole Red Hulk beating Thor was just PIS... why do we accept the fact that Green Hulk beats him so easy if its all within the Red Hulk story arc ? "
Thor fought red hulk again in hulk #6. Red Hulk was unable to do anything to him."
Strange... is there a specific reason why Red Hulk has weaken so greatly here ? "
he got too hot."
Wow... thats sad... but oh well. I will probably check it out once I get to Books A Million

lol
#24 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut..."
Havent read Hulk #6 yet and how do we gauge Red Hulk's power level if he was able to outmuscle Thor ?
"
his power level doesn't even matter.  Just make him "overheat""
Nah I dont mean it that way... I am talking about Red Hulk's raw strength. If he was able to handle Thor but he gets beat by Green Hulk... well how strong is the Red Hulk then ? Cause even Thor was able to give Juggernaut a hell of a fight... and even if the whole Red Hulk beating Thor was just PIS... why do we accept the fact that Green Hulk beats him so easy if its all within the Red Hulk story arc ? "
Thor fought red hulk again in hulk #6. Red Hulk was unable to do anything to him."
Strange... is there a specific reason why Red Hulk has weaken so greatly here ? "
he got too hot."
Wow... thats sad... but oh well. I will probably check it out once I get to Books A Million

lol
"
its not as stupid as the ending though.
#25 Edited by King Saturn (223972 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"Red Hulk should win here
"
actually, judging by his performance in Hulk #6, this should be an easy win for juggernaut..."
Havent read Hulk #6 yet and how do we gauge Red Hulk's power level if he was able to outmuscle Thor ?
"
his power level doesn't even matter.  Just make him "overheat""
Nah I dont mean it that way... I am talking about Red Hulk's raw strength. If he was able to handle Thor but he gets beat by Green Hulk... well how strong is the Red Hulk then ? Cause even Thor was able to give Juggernaut a hell of a fight... and even if the whole Red Hulk beating Thor was just PIS... why do we accept the fact that Green Hulk beats him so easy if its all within the Red Hulk story arc ? "
Thor fought red hulk again in hulk #6. Red Hulk was unable to do anything to him."
Strange... is there a specific reason why Red Hulk has weaken so greatly here ? "
he got too hot."
Wow... thats sad... but oh well. I will probably check it out once I get to Books A Million

lol
"
its not as stupid as the ending though."
Oh Yeah ? Well I will still check it out though
#26 Posted by kenshiroo (920 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut Wins!!

#27 Posted by MrDirector786 (43490 posts) - - Show Bio

Red Hulk wins because of Loebforce.

#28 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio

juggernaut is the last guy red hulk would ever want to face.

#29 Posted by Hellos (8914 posts) - - Show Bio

If Loeb is writing...

Rulk rips juggs head off absorbing all his mystical powers and whatnot.

Leob Force > Common Sense

#30 Posted by jesterlichloath (1013 posts) - - Show Bio

the original unstoppable red force wins easily here rulk cant do anything to him he has no way to get around his barrier

#31 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hellos said:
" If Loeb is writing...Rulk rips juggs head off absorbing all his mystical powers and whatnot.Leob Force > Common Sense "
nope, juggernaut will never even be mentioned in a comic with red hulk because red hulk can do absolutely nothing to him except run away
#32 Posted by TruePwnge (2764 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut wins

Rulk sucks, its just bad writing

#33 Posted by k4tzm4n (38831 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut should win, since Rulk wouldn't be able to harm him...HOWEVER, if written via Leob Force, Hulk's radiation "eats" through juggs forcefield and Rulk pummels him while blindfolded and eating a sandwich.

Staff
#34 Posted by The Dude. (902 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
"@Hellos said:
" If Loeb is writing...Rulk rips juggs head off absorbing all his mystical powers and whatnot.Leob Force > Common Sense "
nope, juggernaut will never even be mentioned in a comic with red hulk because red hulk can do absolutely nothing to him except run away"

Tell that to the Watcher, Silver Surfer, Terrax, The Grandmaster, Dr Strange, The Hulk, Namor, Baron Mordo, Dormammu and more importantly, to Loeb and Marvel!
#35 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dude. said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
"@Hellos said:
" If Loeb is writing...Rulk rips juggs head off absorbing all his mystical powers and whatnot.Leob Force > Common Sense "
nope, juggernaut will never even be mentioned in a comic with red hulk because red hulk can do absolutely nothing to him except run away"
Tell that to the Watcher, Silver Surfer, Terrax, The Grandmaster, Dr Strange, The Hulk, Namor, Baron Mordo, Dormammu and more importantly, to Loeb and Marvel! "
none of them are impervious to damage
#36 Posted by Hellos (8914 posts) - - Show Bio

Loeb Force was only able to be brought down by Galactus himself.

Even then though, as someone once said.
Higher Up in Marvel: "Kk so rulk has killed Terrax, stole the Surfers Power Cosmic, started flying around on his board, killing the Hulk, Baron, Dormammu, Strange, and now hes off to fight Galactus himself?"
Leob: "Yep, its going to be awsome after he kills Galactus, steals all the Power Cosmic and rules the universe!"
Higher Up: "kk this is getting stupid"

#37 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hellos said:
" Loeb Force was only able to be brought down by Galactus himself.Even then though, as someone once said. Higher Up in Marvel: "Kk so rulk has killed Terrax, stole the Surfers Power Cosmic, started flying around on his board, killing the Hulk, Baron, Dormammu, Strange, and now hes off to fight Galactus himself?"Leob: "Yep, its going to be awsome after he kills Galactus, steals all the Power Cosmic and rules the universe!"Higher Up: "kk this is getting stupid" "
...and thor, and the hulk.
#38 Posted by Hellos (8914 posts) - - Show Bio

Leob Force allowed him to life Thors hammer.

Rulk is PIS incarnate, its scary.

#39 Posted by Rothschild (1311 posts) - - Show Bio

I would be happy if Cain killed Rulk...

#40 Posted by The Dude. (902 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
"@The Dude. said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
"@Hellos said:
" If Loeb is writing...Rulk rips juggs head off absorbing all his mystical powers and whatnot.Leob Force > Common Sense "
nope, juggernaut will never even be mentioned in a comic with red hulk because red hulk can do absolutely nothing to him except run away"
Tell that to the Watcher, Silver Surfer, Terrax, The Grandmaster, Dr Strange, The Hulk, Namor, Baron Mordo, Dormammu and more importantly, to Loeb and Marvel! "
none of them are impervious to damage"

A quarter at least, are >Juggernaut!
#41 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dude. said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
"@The Dude. said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
"@Hellos said:
" If Loeb is writing...Rulk rips juggs head off absorbing all his mystical powers and whatnot.Leob Force > Common Sense "
nope, juggernaut will never even be mentioned in a comic with red hulk because red hulk can do absolutely nothing to him except run away"
Tell that to the Watcher, Silver Surfer, Terrax, The Grandmaster, Dr Strange, The Hulk, Namor, Baron Mordo, Dormammu and more importantly, to Loeb and Marvel! "
none of them are impervious to damage"
A quarter at least, are >Juggernaut! "
as far as durability goes, none are.  Red hulk didn't beat dormammu either.
#42 Posted by The Dude. (902 posts) - - Show Bio

True, bout Dormy, but durability is irrelivent when dealing with the likes of beings like Strange, The Grandmaster, Watcher or Dormammu!

#43 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dude. said:
" True, bout Dormy, but durability is irrelivent when dealing with the likes of beings like Strange, The Grandmaster, Watcher or Dormammu! "
but it is relevant when fighting against the red hulk, which is what this thread is about.
#44 Posted by The Dude. (902 posts) - - Show Bio

I do actually agree with you, believe it or not, I hope and would preffer Juggy to wipe the floor with him, but Rulk, as he's been presented, has walked over heavier hitters than Juggy, so it's the PIS/WIS part that Juggy loses to.

#45 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dude. said:
" I do actually agree with you, believe it or not, I hope and would preffer Juggy to wipe the floor with him, but Rulk, as he's been presented, has walked over heavier hitters than Juggy, so it's the PIS/WIS part that Juggy loses to. "
even though he, once again, lost to thor and the hulk?
#46 Posted by The Dude. (902 posts) - - Show Bio

Two losses does not outweigh the majority, somewhere around ten or so wins! majority rules, as much as I hate to admit it in this case! Rulk is pure plot and pis/wis, unfortunately.

#47 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dude. said:
" Two losses does not outweigh the majority, somewhere around ten or so wins! majority rules, as much as I hate to admit it in this case! Rulk is pure plot and pis/wis, unfortunately. "
great, how about explaining what exactly he's going to do to win here?
#48 Posted by Hellos (8914 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
"@The Dude. said:
" Two losses does not outweigh the majority, somewhere around ten or so wins! majority rules, as much as I hate to admit it in this case! Rulk is pure plot and pis/wis, unfortunately. "
great, how about explaining what exactly he's going to do to win here?"

Same way he always does, through a series of events that don't quite make sense.

"I read your file Juggernaut, Thor was once able to remove the protection that surrounds you through a spell, A spell I now know!" * Procedes to beat juggs
#49 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hellos said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
"@The Dude. said:
" Two losses does not outweigh the majority, somewhere around ten or so wins! majority rules, as much as I hate to admit it in this case! Rulk is pure plot and pis/wis, unfortunately. "
great, how about explaining what exactly he's going to do to win here?"
Same way he always does, through a series of events that don't quite make sense."I read your file Juggernaut, Thor was once able to remove the protection that surrounds you through a spell, A spell I now know!" * Procedes to beat juggs "
nope.
#50 Posted by The Dude. (902 posts) - - Show Bio

Considering he's drained cosmic power, killed an eternal being who supposedly can't die, absorbed said cosmic powers, as I said, sorry, but I don't put Juggy above any of those he fought or killed. It's Loeb, ask him for a legitemate reason how Rulk does the things he does.