In the Avengers vs X-Men story The Red Hulk destroyed iceman. Them scans are taken out of context. It ended up in kid gladiator having to come and help iceman. I just wanna know who YOU people think would win.
@homicidalmaniac: 1) The Red Hulk can beat iceman. The madder The Red Hulk gets, the hotter he gets. In this fight The Red Hulk is bloodlusted. Which means bobby can't touch him. If he does, he will melt. The Red Hulk can Thunderclap.
2) Thor is NOT above The Red Hulk. Remember that fight they had? When Thor got destroyed by The Red Hulk in the first ever fight they had? Yeah, The Red Hulk won. The Red Hulk is basically The Hulk's NEAR equal and thor is not. In 90% of the fights The Hulk and thor have ever had The hulk has always won. It is just a fact that Hulk beats thor. The Red Hulk doesn't fall as easily to The Hulk. Also, thor is usually on teams when he fights The Hulk, but The Red Hulk is usually on his own when he fights The Hulk and puts up a very good fight. Those scans have been taken out of context. In the end, The Red Hulk was trashing iceman and Kid Gladiator had to come in and help iceman.
@homicidalmaniac: 1) The Red Hulk can beat iceman. The madder The Red Hulk gets, the hotter he gets. In this fight The Red Hulk is bloodlusted. Which means bobby can't touch him. If he does, he will melt. The Red Hulk can Thunderclap.
2) Thor is NOT above The Red Hulk. Remember that fight they had? When Thor got destroyed by The Red Hulk in the first ever fight they had? Yeah, The Red Hulk won. The Red Hulk is basically The Hulk's NEAR equal and thor is not. In 90% of the fights The Hulk and thor have ever had The hulk has always won. It is just a fact that Hulk beats thor. The Red Hulk doesn't fall as easily to The Hulk. Also, thor is usually on teams when he fights The Hulk, but The Red Hulk is usually on his own when he fights The Hulk and puts up a very good fight. Those scans have been taken out of context. In the end, The Red Hulk was trashing iceman and Kid Gladiator had to come in and help iceman.
Rulk was channeling the leob force at the time, feat is void..........
@khianrobinson123-456: There's so much wrong with this post...
Firstly, the only time red hulk beat thor was with the Loeb force lolz and everyone knew that fight was ridiculous so thankfully the writers had thor come back and beat Rulk senseless.
Hulk himself has not beaten thor 90% of the time actually it's quite equal with the wins and losses at the moment with hulks most impressive win by overpowering thor AFTER thor stopped fighting him and asked him to yield... nice... Thors most impressive win was against hulk AND thing when they were possessed by the hammers (and we're arguably more powerful) and thor trashed both of them almost killing the thing and BFR'd hulk
And if we go by who has been the most powerful ever with their different incarnations then thor easily wins this with Rune King Thor over World Breaker Hulk
@homicidalmaniac: 1) The Red Hulk can beat iceman. The madder The Red Hulk gets, the hotter he gets. In this fight The Red Hulk is bloodlusted. Which means bobby can't touch him. If he does, he will melt. The Red Hulk can Thunderclap.
2) Thor is NOT above The Red Hulk. Remember that fight they had? When Thor got destroyed by The Red Hulk in the first ever fight they had? Yeah, The Red Hulk won. The Red Hulk is basically The Hulk's NEAR equal and thor is not. In 90% of the fights The Hulk and thor have ever had The hulk has always won. It is just a fact that Hulk beats thor. The Red Hulk doesn't fall as easily to The Hulk. Also, thor is usually on teams when he fights The Hulk, but The Red Hulk is usually on his own when he fights The Hulk and puts up a very good fight. Those scans have been taken out of context. In the end, The Red Hulk was trashing iceman and Kid Gladiator had to come in and help iceman.
1.Melting Iceman doesn't do anything to him.He came back after being vaporize and he lives in every water molecule on Earth.
2.That was Loeb Force Red Hulk,Jeph Loeb did a terrible job writing the Red Hulk and he let Red Hulk beat on Odin-Force Thor and the Watcher.Red Hulk is weaker than both Thor and Hulk.Savage Hulk had nearly one shot Red Hulk before with a Thunderclap.Red Hulk is only equal to Doc Green who is weaker version than Savage Hulk.Thor beaten Hulk and Hulk beaten Thor before,but both are way above Red Hulk.Red Hulk wasn't trashing Iceman,Iceman wasn't losing in anyway.Bobby wasn't going all out like he did against Thor.Again,Thor was unable to beat him.
@khianrobinson123-456: ummm... AZ freeze his brain and blood.... bobby wont die as long as there is water..... even if you bust, and molecularly disintegrate the water in earth he'd still live(guess what's inside of Ross' body) so unless Rulk somewhat removes the water/water vapor inside his body(which is suicide) then he has no way at all of defeating bobby...... also he easily manhandled thor until he was distracted by his ex gf where he had arguement with her(which shows how easily destroyed thor)..... even ymir considered iceman to have the potential to replace him as the king of the ice giants, and you know how powerful ymir is like going toe to toe with odin.
just look at thor's reaction after seeing iceman.... and you'll know the outcome of this battle
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@homicidalmaniac: 1) The Red Hulk can beat iceman. The madder The Red Hulk gets, the hotter he gets. In this fight The Red Hulk is bloodlusted. Which means bobby can't touch him. If he does, he will melt. The Red Hulk can Thunderclap.
2) Thor is NOT above The Red Hulk. Remember that fight they had? When Thor got destroyed by The Red Hulk in the first ever fight they had? Yeah, The Red Hulk won. The Red Hulk is basically The Hulk's NEAR equal and thor is not. In 90% of the fights The Hulk and thor have ever had The hulk has always won. It is just a fact that Hulk beats thor. The Red Hulk doesn't fall as easily to The Hulk. Also, thor is usually on teams when he fights The Hulk, but The Red Hulk is usually on his own when he fights The Hulk and puts up a very good fight. Those scans have been taken out of context. In the end, The Red Hulk was trashing iceman and Kid Gladiator had to come in and help iceman.
LOOOOOOOL what?
Here's a detailed breakdown of every canon Thor vs Hulk fight:
@ouroborik: That video fails to mention several fights, also fails to mention that Hulk knocked out Thor in Hulk 2001 annual but mentions the part where Thor knocked him out, it also outdated by now since Hulk and Thor had several encounters since then. It's a poorly researched, poorly sourced and fairly biased youtube video.
Almost all of the fights Hulk and Thor have had have resulted in draws or were inconclusive the ones that where not are
Hulk annual 2001, they fight for over an hour and both manage to knock each other out at 1 point
Fear Itself, Thor tries to kill Hulk but fails to so he BFR's him into space
Let the Battle Begin, both have a back and forth until Hulk gets mad grabs Thors arm and hammer and beats Thor unconscious with it
Bendis Avengers, Hulk get's mind controlled by Thanos grabs Thors arm and hammer and one-shots him with it
Hickmans Avengers, Hulk gets controlled by Abyss he jumps and seemingly one-shots Thor
Immortal Hulk, Hulk fights all of the Avengers including Thor who he one-shots and almost kills by fracturing his skull.
I count more wins for Hulk here then for Thor, but feel free to cite to me any other time Thor has had a clear victory over Hulk in canon as the ones Hulk has had over Thor, particularly the latest one where he almost killed him with 1 hit.
@zillag: Lol, most of the fights you mentioned are described that exact same way in the video.
As for the Immortal Hulk fight, that is brand new so it doesn't hold any significance in this debate, plus it will probably be contradicted once Thor fights Hulk again. As far as I know Immortal Hulk is a complete Hulk Wank Fest and in the future it may hold as much significance as LoebForce Rulk.
@zillag: Lol, most of the fights you mentioned are described that exact same way in the video.
As for the Immortal Hulk fight, that is brand new so it doesn't hold any significance in this debate, plus it will probably be contradicted once Thor fights Hulk again. As far as I know Immortal Hulk is a complete Hulk Wank Fest and in the future it may hold as much significance as LoebForce Rulk.
No they are not, for instance he never mentions that both Hulk and Thor knocked each other out in Hulk 2001 annual, he counts that whole fight as a win just for Thor. He counts a fight in Thor 385 that ended in a stalemate as a win for Thor, he counts a non-canon fight from a OF Thor in Reinging as a win for Thor, he counts Hammer and Sinew as a win for Thor despite that also being non-canon, he mentions several other fights that are also non-canon and treats them as canon although those ended in a stalemate. He has no consistency in the way he describes win for either of them, sometimes counting a stalemate as a win for Thor while other times not counting Hulk knocking out Thor as a win for Hulk, he count Thor BFRing Hulk as a win for Thor but when Hulk BFR'd Thor he didn't count the win for Hulk. Like i said it's a poorly researched and heavily biased video, which is shown in the conclusion he reaches in the end that Thor has to win over Hulk because he is a "god", despite that such label means nothing in the comics as there have been beings that aren't gods that have treated guys like Hulk and Thor like toys and even recently it was revealed that Hulk is also either a god or a devil himself, further proving that such titles are meaningless.
At the end of the day whether you like it or not Hulk has more wins over Thor in canon than vice versa.
Fight being brand new does not dismiss the said fight, if anything it makes it more relevant because the newer the fights the more relevant they are to the current debate. A fight between Hulk and Thor that happened a week ago is more relevant than one that happened 10 or 50 years ago, this is common sense. You are not Nostradamus so you have no idea if the fight will or will not be contradicted some time in the future, that's pure speculation as of right now Immortal Hulk owned Thor thats what we know and there is no need to speculate what might happen in the future. I mean you would love that wouldn't you? Unfortunately that is not the case because Immortal Hulk has not reached the silly levels of wank that LoebForce Rulk did and as Thor HIMSELF has described this version of Hulk is just MUCH stronger than he was when he fought him before
So unfortunately for you, you can't just handwave it as "Hulk wankfest", seeing as nobody else sees it like that. In fact it's one of the best Hulk stories possibly ever written given the amount of publication its received the positive criticism and numerous awards and nominations from last year.
Bobby didn’t seem to be taking him too seriously in their fight. Neither really did that much to each other but with Ross’ overheating and weird piercing resistance considering Punisher slipped a knife into his chest, the Moloid leader stabbed him and it took forever to heal from Logan, it’s a disadvantage for him. I see a bloodlusted Iceman winning more often than not.
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