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#1 Edited by Obtrusive (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

I think its a pretty even fight. This is the "Lobotomized" symbiote.

Jason Todd red hood, and Flash Thompson agent venom.

#2 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

venom stomps all

#3 Posted by Fudgie29 (70 posts) - - Show Bio

Red hood ftw

#4 Posted by Bluefox170 (382 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom

#5 Posted by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

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#6 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom

#7 Posted by Obtrusive (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

A split vote, perfect, this resolves nothing. I assume this means its an even fight, more or less.

#8 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

#9 Posted by GraniteSoldier (7805 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom takes it.

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#10 Posted by TheGraySon (457 posts) - - Show Bio

@Obtrusive: ehhh 1-3 venom winning.

#11 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

Red Hood would have trouble with those people as well. He'd lose to most of them.

#12 Posted by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

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#13 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29501 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

#14 Posted by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

Red Hood would have trouble with those people as well. He'd lose to most of them.

I wasn't saying that to draw comparisons to Jason Todd - I was saying it to address why Venom shouldn't be over-hyped.

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#15 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

Red Hood would have trouble with those people as well. He'd lose to most of them.

lol thats what iam saying

#16 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash kind of sucks in combat, all things considered. He should beat Todd just due to his durability and stats, but he might be the least effective Venom to date.

#17 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

lol or you wouldn't be aware if the joke was on you LIGHTEN UP

#18 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

WOW somebody needs to know this is just a comic book battle and flash stomps

#19 Edited by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

I actually think Agent Venom would beat Todd in an amusing fight. Todd's pistols won't do a thang and it's going to come down to close range. Todd has the skill to cut Flash up a bit, but it shouldn't be more than Flash has withstood in the title already. Todd's superior skill and agility means this will be amusing but eventually, I imagine Venom's stats will overcome and he'll take Todd down with one clean connect (a la Captain America style).

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#20 Posted by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

lol or you wouldn't be aware if the joke was on you LIGHTEN UP

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#21 Posted by Shawnbaby (10774 posts) - - Show Bio

In a Random encounter...I don't see how Jason beats any Venom.

#22 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

I actually think Agent Venom would beat Todd in an amusing fight. Todd's pistols won't do a thang and it's going to come down to close range. Todd has the skill to cut Flash up a bit, but it shouldn't be more than Flash has withstood in the title already. Todd's superior skill and agility means this will be amusing but eventually, I imagine Venom's stats will overcome and he'll take Todd down with one clean connect (a la Captain America style).

if you think flash would win why come at me like that

#23 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29501 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

WOW somebody needs to know this is just a comic book battle and flash stomps

WOW someone needs to learn not to be condescending!

@k4tzm4n said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

I actually think Agent Venom would beat Todd in an amusing fight. Todd's pistols won't do a thang and it's going to come down to close range. Todd has the skill to cut Flash up a bit, but it shouldn't be more than Flash has withstood in the title already. Todd's superior skill and agility means this will be amusing but eventually, I imagine Venom's stats will overcome and he'll take Todd down with one clean connect (a la Captain America style).

Interesting. I think it could go either way.

But it's definitely not a stomp on either front.

#24 Posted by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@imbackwimps said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

WOW somebody needs to know this is just a comic book battle and flash stomps

WOW someone needs to learn not to be condescending!

@k4tzm4n said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

I actually think Agent Venom would beat Todd in an amusing fight. Todd's pistols won't do a thang and it's going to come down to close range. Todd has the skill to cut Flash up a bit, but it shouldn't be more than Flash has withstood in the title already. Todd's superior skill and agility means this will be amusing but eventually, I imagine Venom's stats will overcome and he'll take Todd down with one clean connect (a la Captain America style).

Interesting. I think it could go either way.

But it's definitely not a stomp on either front.

HOMIGAWD U CLEARLY DUN LYKE VENOM IF U DUN THINK HE STOMPS Y DUN U GO RED VENOM N SEE WHY HEZ AWESOME OKAY LURN HE WINS HE STOMPS BYE

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#25 Posted by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@imbackwimps said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

WOW somebody needs to know this is just a comic book battle and flash stomps

WOW someone needs to learn not to be condescending!

@k4tzm4n said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

I actually think Agent Venom would beat Todd in an amusing fight. Todd's pistols won't do a thang and it's going to come down to close range. Todd has the skill to cut Flash up a bit, but it shouldn't be more than Flash has withstood in the title already. Todd's superior skill and agility means this will be amusing but eventually, I imagine Venom's stats will overcome and he'll take Todd down with one clean connect (a la Captain America style).

Interesting. I think it could go either way.

But it's definitely not a stomp on either front.

But seriously, I enjoy being interesting every now and then.

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

I actually think Agent Venom would beat Todd in an amusing fight. Todd's pistols won't do a thang and it's going to come down to close range. Todd has the skill to cut Flash up a bit, but it shouldn't be more than Flash has withstood in the title already. Todd's superior skill and agility means this will be amusing but eventually, I imagine Venom's stats will overcome and he'll take Todd down with one clean connect (a la Captain America style).

if you think flash would win why come at me like that

Because people over-hype him and he hasn't done anything to warrant it. Just because he beats Todd doesn't mean it's a stomp.

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#26 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

lol or you wouldn't be aware if the joke was on you LIGHTEN UP

#27 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@imbackwimps said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

WOW somebody needs to know this is just a comic book battle and flash stomps

WOW someone needs to learn not to be condescending!

@k4tzm4n said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

joke lighten up venom still wins

Usually jokes are funny, so that must be why I wasn't aware it was one.

What he said.

And Venom loses.

What is it with people automatically thinking Flash is so well trained that he can take on Jason?

What f**king book have they been reading?

I actually think Agent Venom would beat Todd in an amusing fight. Todd's pistols won't do a thang and it's going to come down to close range. Todd has the skill to cut Flash up a bit, but it shouldn't be more than Flash has withstood in the title already. Todd's superior skill and agility means this will be amusing but eventually, I imagine Venom's stats will overcome and he'll take Todd down with one clean connect (a la Captain America style).

Interesting. I think it could go either way.

But it's definitely not a stomp on either front.

HOMIGAWD U CLEARLY DUN LYKE VENOM IF U DUN THINK HE STOMPS Y DUN U GO RED VENOM N SEE WHY HEZ AWESOME OKAY LURN HE WINS HE STOMPS BYE

#28 Edited by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps: Do you have anything constructive to add? I've already elaborated to IV why I think Flash wins. All you've managed to accomplish was saying Venom stomps and then went into defense mechanism mode when you were called out on it.

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#29 Posted by karetaker (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

@BringnIt: gargan ?

#30 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps: Do you have anything constructive to add? I've already elaborated to IV why I think Flash wins. All you've managed to accomplish was saying Venom stomps and then went into defense mechanism mode when you were called out on it.

constructive to add about a fake battle nope just my opinion why flash wins

#31 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm starting to think Gargan would beat Flash.

#32 Posted by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@BringnIt said:

I'm starting to think Gargan would beat Flash.

Agent Venom (can't vulk out) vs Gargan Venom. Make it happen, sir!

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#33 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n I am not sure that I can condone making such a thread yet. I just don't know that I can take two pages of "lol Gargan sucks Flash pwns" right now.

#34 Posted by Obtrusive (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@karetaker: No, the flash thompson, his symbiote is dumbed down a lot so he can control it. I fixed the into to say that now.

#35 Posted by karetaker (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

@BringnIt said:

I'm starting to think Gargan would beat Flash.

:'(

@Obtrusive: ohh well after he gets mad enough the symbiote would still gain control. i doubt hood could take him out before that happens

#36 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@ChaosBlazer said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

No, not really. If that was the case, I imagine he wouldn't have had trouble with the likes of Fly, Kraven, Jack O'Lantern, Death Adder, Taskmaster, and more.

Red Hood would have trouble with those people as well. He'd lose to most of them.

I wasn't saying that to draw comparisons to Jason Todd - I was saying it to address why Venom shouldn't be over-hyped.

ok.

#37 Posted by Obtrusive (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@karetaker: Yeah, we have seen that sort of happen, but I think with flash talking about how his symbiote wasn't as strong as the carnage one when it got firebombed. I think it was carnage at least.

#38 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

#39 Posted by TheDarkLord_267 (121 posts) - - Show Bio

Red Hood

#40 Posted by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Red Hood.

#41 Posted by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

WUT

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#42 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

WUT

Venom should defeat Red Hood easily, despite recently jobbing to Taskmaster.

#43 Posted by Strider92 (16476 posts) - - Show Bio

Recent Venom may be poor in comparison to his other counterparts but unless Todd has some kind of sonic or flammable weapon on him then Flash should still take it due to his much better stats.

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#44 Posted by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

WUT

Venom should defeat Red Hood easily, despite recently jobbing to Taskmaster.

Yes, he should win... but quoting "venom stomps all" isn't a good way to express that ;)

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#45 Posted by The_Question_ (21 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

WUT

Venom should defeat Red Hood easily, despite recently jobbing to Taskmaster.

It's not jobbing when a character is consistently been portrayed as being inefficient in combat. If not flat out incompetent. After a dozen underwhelming encounters, you'd expect Flash and his supporters would have run out of excuses by now, but I guess not.
#46 Edited by venomsapprentice (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@BringnIt said:

Flash kind of sucks in combat, all things considered. He should beat Todd just due to his durability and stats, but he might be the least effective Venom to date.
THIS IMAGE IS WHAT PEOPLE MEAN WHEN THEY SAY "FAIL"

Least Effective Venom? And this is without bringing up Angelo Fortunato.

Also any Venom beats red hood, due to sheer power.

#47 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@GraniteSoldier said:

Venom takes it.

#48 Posted by SavageDragon (2252 posts) - - Show Bio

I say its a close fight but Venom takes it in a very tough fight. Jason Todd is a very skilled fighter so this is a tough one. Flash is a solid fighter but in the end Jason is a better combatant and more capable than Jack O'latern, Death Adder ect. Flash has his symbiot defense so I will give it to Venom. Like I said really even fight.

#49 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Question_ said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@imbackwimps said:

venom stomps all

WUT

Venom should defeat Red Hood easily, despite recently jobbing to Taskmaster.

It's not jobbing when a character is consistently been portrayed as being inefficient in combat. If not flat out incompetent. After a dozen underwhelming encounters, you'd expect Flash and his supporters would have run out of excuses by now, but I guess not.

Right. Flash is ineffective in combat...

I guess him one-shotting Captain America, overpowering Spider-man while holding back for most of the fight, easily defeating Jack-O-Lantern, and trading blows with Red Hulk are all just times he got lucky.

Get serious...

#50 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know how Red Hood can defeat Venom even once. Until someone gives a GOOD reason how this is a good fight, I say Venom stomps.