umm........ jean did not attacked with body.... she psionically attacked him... now i don't have to prove a light energy (psionic energy) to be light speed i believe....
but still, for your confirmation, here's another one
I've never seen that psionic = light, but I don't read comics with psychics, mostly Firestorm, Blue Beetle, Justice League and Red Hood. And no wiki I've seen says that. Care to show me a scan? And Nico's thought speed is faster than the blink of an eye which you showed is how fast Nate's TK is.
and LOOOOL ... why do you even ask me to show tk speed?.. i only need to show nate's 'mind speed' as all of his mind based attack speed depends on that. :D.. which i believe have shown to be much much faster than light...
Uh, no, you have to prove that he has to attack at that speed. Combat speed and thought speed are different. And also you haven't shown me that his speed is FTL, and just because he says he knows everything in the universe doesn't mean he really does.
highly resistant?... perhaps immune?... to nate?!...... ohh... you do give quite a bit of laugh you know... XD
i only didn't read that you changed your perk from no tp to no bfr in this match. that's why i didn't went for tp right away....
here's what nate do to highly resistant, almost immune to tp things :D
I see him casting an image into Qabiri's mind, hardly mind f*cking, and you'll have to show me that Qabiri is immune to TP.
In the second scan I see necromancy, not TP, and in the third I see technopathy, also not TP.
now........... after we're clear about the penetrating immune to tp part, lets show you what level of tp we are talking about... none of those tps you mentioned combined can stand upto anywhere near nate grey level
Uh, I see statements, the phoenix raptor, and the astral plane. Statements don't mean anything - by statements, Firestorm is a universal threat, Odin is omnipotent, and Jaime Reyes could solo the Spectre. But they don't have the feats so it doesn't mean anything. Phoenix Raptor doesn't mean much either, Hope Summers used it in AvX and Hope would have lost to most street levellers at the time. As for the harvester bit, that looks an awful lot like the astral plane, and again statements mean nothing.
as we can see it, nate can crush them easily before they can even react... do show me how durable they are against a tk power which can crush the moon. :D
Nate isn't fast enough to hit them with that though, so it doesn't matter.
ohh... yeah right.. your team won't even get the chance of their first move.. and u're saying about other moves.. and besides.. if they don't fight their own team, why would piper use her power on her own team?
Because Piper isn't fighting, she's just getting Ultraman and Metallo to cooperate. She's done that many times.
"That was Hera," Thalia grumbled, "Her Majesty, the loose cannon."
"Thalia Grace," Hera said, "I will turn you into an aardvark, so help me-"
"Stop it, you two," Piper said. Amazingly, they both cooperated.
The "amazingly" bit is because Piper only had about 2 weeks training at the time. At the current time, she's had a year of training.
because as i showed nate can literally see everyone's past, present and future from plank length.... now if you say me nate won't know about them even if he knows about their past, then i can't say anything.
You... didn't show anything. He didn't do that mid combat either, the combat just took place outside the time stream, as Nate said in that scan.
set your mind right... what will be your team's first move? nico teleporting.. or piper seeing through dagger? neither will get the chance to materialize though...
First move is Nico teleporting. Then Piper uses the dagger.
speaking of which, do show me how it's in character for nico to teleport away from the battle field against unknown opponents as soon as the battle starts.
It's feasible that Nico will teleport away to rally his team in a safe place as soon as the battle starts. Much more feasible than Nate using the time stream mid-battle.
ohh yeah... they are dead...lol... though i'm curious.. how is gaea more powerful than ultraman?
Gaea is the living embodiment of the Earth, she can't die and the gods, who quite literally kill people by looking at them harshly, feared her. And besides Ultraman is a man without any magic powers, the only people that resist charmspeak are women with magic powers.
please show me when has ditto transformed by seeing a picture...... even if it can take the shape of the body.. won't replicate powers.... and piper's dagger is a very small thing to look at anyway..
Showed you in the scan at I think it was step 3 of my plan. That was the manga episode where they were searching for Mew, and Ditto copied it off of the pokedex, which was just as small as the dagger.
ahahahaha..... hahaha..... let me laugh a bit more please..... ahahahaha....
shadow clones aren't naruto's power.. they are ninja techniques... they requires hand signs ... other ninja's can perform them too if they knows how to (kakashi can create multi shadow clones).......... so untill you show me dittos can copy techniques and skills... they are not creating shadow clones..... i almost feel sorry for your lack of knowledge :D
1000 narutos will beat the crap out of 1 naruto...lol
You're a pokemon fan, right? So you should know that in the anime and sometimes the manga pokemon don't learn moves immediately, for example Gible's Draco Meteor would fade out instead of attacking the opponent. But Ditto always copies the moves perfectly. So it's perfectly acceptable to say that it could imitate the shadow clone technique as well.
ohh.. yeah.... transforming into a canon or rock during sleep definitely shows it can transform into an universally unique object and use it's abilities which requires countless DNAs from over 10000 species throughout the universe... how convincing -_-
The Biomnitrix doesn't require DNA from those species... it scans them... and it's still not as complex as Mew which as per the pokedex has the DNA of all Pokemon and is a life form not a machine. Even a blank biomnitrix would suffice.
hold on... i thought you have 2 dittos........ anyway... i am a big fan of pokemon.. you will have to do better than that.. :D
firstly, your best bait of ditto's transformation are games... even there it can't copy more than 4 moves...
ditto can't transform without seeing the person face to face .. can transform from memory though if have meet him before... though it's not perfect transformation (eyes becomes different)... never seen anything to suggest ditto can transform by seeing a picture in a small dagger.
transformed dittos have lower physicals (we've seen that during the orange league)...
and we've seen in the manga too that while transforming to high power level, dittos aren't quite the same powerful as the original one (when ditto copied deoxys in the manga)..... so really sorry... copying zapdos or pikachu or only float after copying mewtwo won't really support your claim.
I had 2 Dittos but used the Shadow Clones. And even if we do have slightly lower physicals, we're FTL, and there are millions of us (Shadow Clones will clone, turn back into Ditto, turn back into Naruto, clone again so really we have unlimited Dittos). And it's a known fact that whenever Ditto copies something it copies all their powers as well. And Ditto only has 4 moves because the pokemon it copies have 4 moves. And anyways even if I can only have 4 moves, it doesn't matter because I have virtually unlimited Dittos and together they'll just overwhelm your forces.
where the hell are that many dittos coming from? o.O
and that's really a nice theory you know.... but it won't really matter... you know why?..... because..
beside seeing the past (remember he saw everything from the beginning of time) and everything in the multiverse..... nate has an extended precognition..... more of a future sight... which allows him to see what happens in the near or distant future.. nate will know your every little plan before it even takes place in your character's mind
mimic struggles to cope with nate's precognitive abilities... he sees all his fears becoming true in the future.. and comes close to loosing his mind
That isn't precog it's TP. Mimic's worst fears never materialized. And Nate's powerless to stop it anyway. You're twisting your scans to your benefit, misinterpreting them.
and while knowing that, even if nico somehow manages to teleport (impossible though.. as per you word, nico is a supersonic at max.. reacting to bullet or arrows... while nate's mind works at a speed waaay beyond light speed.... it is a BIIIIIIIIIIGGG speed difference)...... ben (as clockwork and upgrade amalgam) can simply reverse back the time for his team (freezing time is against the rule.. reversing it back isn't)
clockwork can slow, freeze, reverse time at his will, and he can do that for the whole team... and upgrade on top of that... well, upgrades any machinery.. and clockwork is a living machine
Nate has never attacked someone faster than Nico can think. And it's not reacting to a bullet, it's seeing the bullet in slow motion which is a big difference. And then all he has to do is think which I calculated above. You'll need to show me that Nate can attack faster than that, and don't show me processing power, show me attacks because combat speed is different from thought speed. For example, Firestorm has traversed galaxies in an instant, but he doesn't have combat speed feats so he isn't a speedster.
before your team can even react...... nate will crush your team with tk.. members surviving that (ultraman) will fall under tp next and becomes vegetables... even if somehow nate allows nico to teleport them in the labrynth, clockwork can reverse back time and then the first step can be repeated (not that the labrynth is outside of multiverse.. nate can easily attack them in it)........... my way of play is pretty straight and simple... though i think u're struggling to find a right path to work..lol
1. As stated before, Nate's never attacked faster than Nico can think, and all he needs to do is think to teleport.
2. Clockwork can't reverse time, lol. He can show his team what happened, which is what is going on in that gif, but he can't alter the events.
3. Labyrinth is a protected dimension, and Nate's never ventured to a dimension that is guarded.
"I tried opening it [the portal] once," Rachel said, "Just out of curiosity."
"No," Annabeth said. "It needs the touch of a demigod."
Only demigods and gods can go to the Labyrinth. It stopped Rachel from going, and Nate doesn't have any feats of going to protected dimensions.
4. I'm not struggling at all. While my team may be initially weaker, we can copy anything you can do, and do it in bigger numbers. Despite the fact that you should be winning, I mean you have an Omega Level Mutant, you aren't, at all.
Summary
- No feats of Nate being able to attack us faster than Nico can think which I showed was 234,300 fps.
- No feats of Nate being able to breach defenses of any sort guarding dimensions.
- Meanwhile we can do everything we stated. Making an army of Ultraman-Nate fusions, so we're FTL, amped with ridiculous amounts of Kryptonite and have all the powers of Nate.
@ssj_god: Please don't say things like "LOOOOL" or "let me laugh a little more" or "I think you are struggling," as it makes you come off as rude and condescending, and voters don't like that. Open for votes now? I didn't make any new arguments, even though I definitely could have.
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