Raven & Dr. Fate vs. Ghost Riders

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#1  Edited By GhostRider29

Raven and Dr. Fate get 8 hours to prepare themselves for a fight, but they have no idea who they're going up against. Ghost Riders(Johnny and Dan) don't get Prep. Morals are off for each side. Fight takes place on the Stark Tower. How would this go? 
 
 
 
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#2  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Fate wins with prep. Without, Riders should win.

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#3  Edited By GhostRider29
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Well, he has no clue who he is fighting and how to defeat them though. Like prepping to fight someone like hulk is completely different from prepping to fight someone like Raven.
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#4  Edited By Outside_85

With 8 hours of prep I'll say its possible that Fate makes the difference.

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#5  Edited By TrueIlluminatus

Would Fate and Raven be forced to win BFR?

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#6  Edited By Saren

Team 1.

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#7  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@GhostRider29 said:
@JediXMan: Well, he has no clue who he is fighting and how to defeat them though. Like prepping to fight someone like hulk is completely different from prepping to fight someone like Raven.
Do they have just a general idea, like that they will be fighting mystics?
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#8  Edited By beatboks1

I must be missing something.
I don't see any way that the Brothers could contend with Doctor Fate alone. 
Given prep, which with current version is completely irrelevant since he now knows how to simply open his mind to the helm of Nabu and know what ever spells he needs  when he needs them. Given that even the lowest versions of Dr Fate have defeated far more powerful beings than the riders. I mean current Dr fate gave the current (sorry at least for another week) ruler of Hell (which would therefore be above the risers with total control over the greater power theirs is drawn from) an absolute and utter hiding. He's a reality warper of near the highest order. Current Fate has access to the same power as classic (so on the power level of Classic Strange) without the draw backs of a dominating host, but still the benefits of the knowledge the helm simply allows him. All that combined with the fact that on numerous occasions the helm itself has been shown to destroy evil ones wearing it in much the way that the rider penance stare does, by showing them their inner dark selves. Since this is the case whoever wears the helm is likely completely immune to the penance stare.

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#9  Edited By EpitomeofCool

team 1.

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#10  Edited By Killemall
@JediXMan said:
Fate wins with prep. Without, Riders should win.
that sounds about correct to me.
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#11  Edited By beatboks1

How exactly does anyone think the riders are beating Fate if he doesn't have prep. Current Fate without prep is like classic with. There is nothing they can do to cause lasting harm to him Once he knows what he's facing he opens himself to the helm and it gives him the spell he needs He accesses the same power level as classic so major reality warper, even the lowest Inza Fate would have had a good shot agains the Riders Prep not an issue here. Fate shouldn't need raven but would have a tough battle without her