#1 Posted by sandiego008 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

Been awhile since I've made a battle thread thought I might make a few and see if I still suck at it.

Morals on

Takes place here ... should give good jumping space for toad but also great cover space for Ra to use line of sight on toad.

Ra knows about toads abilities, toad doesn't know about Ra.

Start 50 yards apart.

Ra can use knowledge to access typical items he would use in battle, but not items used once.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

Are you serious Ra's couldn't have an easier opponent even if the opponent was an old lady

Ra's Stomps!!!!

#3 Posted by sandiego008 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

@202122: care to elaborate?

#4 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandiego008: Toad has the abilities of a large frog

Ra's al Ghul has:

600 years of life

Genius level intelligence

Master of hand to hand combat, fencing and alchemy

Has centuries of knowledge, experience and resources

I don't see any outcome in which toad wins

#5 Posted by The_Peter_Cosmic (401 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel bad for Toad.

#6 Posted by Nefarious (22869 posts) - - Show Bio

Toad wins. He is too fast for Ra's.

#7 Posted by sandiego008 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

@202122 said:

@sandiego008: Toad has the abilities of a large frog

Ra's al Ghul has:

600 years of life

Genius level intelligence

Master of hand to hand combat, fencing and alchemy

Has centuries of knowledge, experience and resources

I don't see any outcome in which toad wins

Toad is smart'ish ... fast, poison spit, has his tongue as a weapon and with the scenario ... he can stick to the walls and hop around ... giving him potential jumps on ra al ghul ... I don't think this fight is a stomp. But .. maybe I'm wrong.

#8 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

Toad.

#9 Posted by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

Toad. But its a close one

#10 Posted by (((Prodigy))) (2442 posts) - - Show Bio

Toad would have a much better chance if Ra's didn't already know about his plethora of powers. 
 
Since Ra's already knows about everything Toad can do, I'd say he stands a rather decent chance at winning.

#11 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6609 posts) - - Show Bio

Toad has no real skill to speak of ... dude even have any skill feats? He could probably avoid Ra's and 'get away' if that was a goal. Beat him? I really don't think Toad's done anything to show he can beat a skilled opponent in hand to hand. As soon as Toad gets in range, or jumps in to strike, I see Ra's tagging him instead.

#12 Posted by RainEffect (3240 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm seriously considering making a Ra's 101 as Bane and Rhino have one. Ra's is so underrated and trolled on these boards.

Ra's can go up against the likes of Nightwing and Batman, both of whom are agile in their own right (Dick specifically). He's stomped Tim Drake to the point that all Tim could do was just survive and hold out, not even bother trying to fight back because he knew he would get destroyed if he did.

Toad is, what, fast? Ra's commands a legion of ninjas. You think he might have picked up some of their traits?

Seriously, Ra's laughs at Toad before stomping him.

#13 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

Toad should stomp, he almost beat Wolverine. Without prep Ra's is just a Bat-villain who's good with a sword, Toad is vastly superior physically, has a HF, spit, tongue that can kill a man, gusts of breath, etc. He wins eezy.

#14 Posted by sandiego008 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

@Super_SoldierXII: @RainEffect: Are you guys aware of toads ablilities? I only ask because based on comments you assume all he can do is hop around ...

#15 Posted by (((Prodigy))) (2442 posts) - - Show Bio
@Joygirl said:
Toad should stomp, he almost beat Wolverine. Without prep Ra's is just a Bat-villain who's good with a sword, Toad is vastly superior physically, has a HF, spit, tongue that can kill a man, gusts of breath, etc. He wins eezy.
I've never heard of him having a healing factor...
#16 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

Yup, he does, like a salamander or whatnot.

#17 Posted by (((Prodigy))) (2442 posts) - - Show Bio
@Joygirl said:
Yup, he does, like a salamander or whatnot.
I've never seen it mentioned in any handbooks or online power bios. 
 
Would you happen to have scans, or know of any specific examples? 
 
(Don't thinkg I"m trying to straight-up say you're wrong or anything like that. I just try to be well-knowledged on Toad, and you're bringing up a power I've never even heard about before. You've piqued my curiosity quite a bit).
#18 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Toad.

#19 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

@Prodigy: I read it on his wiki... haven't actually read much Toad but it makes sense. Regen is pretty common among amphibians and they pretty much give him every power of every amphibian ever so I'm pretty sure he has it.

#20 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (15127 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah sorry kids but ra's takes this.

#21 Posted by sandiego008 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective said:

yeah sorry kids but ra's takes this.

care to elaborate why?

#22 Posted by cattlebattle (13347 posts) - - Show Bio
@Joygirl said:
Toad should stomp, he almost beat Wolverine. Without prep Ra's is just a Bat-villain who's good with a sword, Toad is vastly superior physically, has a HF, spit, tongue that can kill a man, gusts of breath, etc. He wins eezy.
Yes!! someone remembers this, I actually think Wolverine mad a comment that the enclosed environment put him at a disadvantage, meaning Toad could have potentially beaten Wolverine
 
I am voting Toad
#23 Posted by sandiego008 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

@Joygirl said:
Toad should stomp, he almost beat Wolverine. Without prep Ra's is just a Bat-villain who's good with a sword, Toad is vastly superior physically, has a HF, spit, tongue that can kill a man, gusts of breath, etc. He wins eezy.
Yes!! someone remembers this, I actually think Wolverine mad a comment that the enclosed environment put him at a disadvantage, meaning Toad could have potentially beaten Wolverine I am voting Toad

lets not go overboard ... he hit wolverine a few times then wolverine 1 shot him ... it shows he has potential but lets not make it like he is on wolverines level ..

#24 Posted by cattlebattle (13347 posts) - - Show Bio
@sandiego008 said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Joygirl said:
Toad should stomp, he almost beat Wolverine. Without prep Ra's is just a Bat-villain who's good with a sword, Toad is vastly superior physically, has a HF, spit, tongue that can kill a man, gusts of breath, etc. He wins eezy.
Yes!! someone remembers this, I actually think Wolverine mad a comment that the enclosed environment put him at a disadvantage, meaning Toad could have potentially beaten Wolverine I am voting Toad

lets not go overboard ... he hit wolverine a few times then wolverine 1 shot him ... it shows he has potential but lets not make it like he is on wolverines level ..

levels are nonsense when you have super powers and weaknesses, Toad isn't anywhere near Ras Al Ghuls level either, but Toad can beat him
#25 Posted by AssertingValor (5446 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle: Toad could never beat wolverine...

#26 Posted by sandiego008 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

@sandiego008 said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Joygirl said:
Toad should stomp, he almost beat Wolverine. Without prep Ra's is just a Bat-villain who's good with a sword, Toad is vastly superior physically, has a HF, spit, tongue that can kill a man, gusts of breath, etc. He wins eezy.
Yes!! someone remembers this, I actually think Wolverine mad a comment that the enclosed environment put him at a disadvantage, meaning Toad could have potentially beaten Wolverine I am voting Toad

lets not go overboard ... he hit wolverine a few times then wolverine 1 shot him ... it shows he has potential but lets not make it like he is on wolverines level ..

levels are nonsense when you have super powers and weaknesses, Toad isn't anywhere near Ras Al Ghuls level either, but Toad can beat him

I agree .. the thing is skill sets vs skill ... I think toad should take this due to his versatility ... not due to his skill ... ras al ghul is way more skilled than him ... but toad has a good skill set to make a good match thus me making it ... difference between ra and wolverine is ... healing factor.

#27 Posted by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

ra slices off toad's tongue

#28 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (15127 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandiego008: all right, here is how it goes in my head. Toad starts jumping from coulum to colum to attack Ra's, while Ra's is where the fight started waiting for toad to attack, when toad gets close enough to for his tongue to reach ra's he fires it and ra's dodges it and is able to cut his tongue, overwhelmed by the pain he falls on the floor agonizing and close enough for Ra's to finish him

#29 Posted by (((Prodigy))) (2442 posts) - - Show Bio
@sandiego008 said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Joygirl said:
Toad should stomp, he almost beat Wolverine. Without prep Ra's is just a Bat-villain who's good with a sword, Toad is vastly superior physically, has a HF, spit, tongue that can kill a man, gusts of breath, etc. He wins eezy.
Yes!! someone remembers this, I actually think Wolverine mad a comment that the enclosed environment put him at a disadvantage, meaning Toad could have potentially beaten Wolverine I am voting Toad

lets not go overboard ... he hit wolverine a few times then wolverine 1 shot him ... it shows he has potential but lets not make it like he is on wolverines level ..

The only reason Toad lost that fight as quickly as he did was because he was being really cocky and overconfident. 
 
#30 Posted by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Toad wins. He is too fast for Ra's.

he doesnt need to be fast like toad, he just needs to have good reflexes, just like a normal human doesnt need to be fast to hit a baseball traveling at high speeds

#31 Posted by cattlebattle (13347 posts) - - Show Bio
@LordMaverick said:

@cattlebattle: Toad could never beat wolverine...

If you say so...
#32 Posted by KraytRawk (628 posts) - - Show Bio

Ra would win. no possible way that toad could win if Ra knows about his powers.

#33 Posted by sandiego008 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective: so is he just standing there as poison spit is spat towards him?

#34 Posted by XiiX (9429 posts) - - Show Bio

Toad.

#35 Posted by hyiena (1982 posts) - - Show Bio

If Toad wasn't a jobber he would win.

#36 Posted by NeonGameWave (8970 posts) - - Show Bio

Ra`s al Ghul.

#37 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

Toad.

#38 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

Ra's could pull a win. He could easily outsmart Toad, especially with prior knowledge. Without prep, this would be a different story.

#39 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

In that fight with Logan, Toad didn't show anything suggesting he could beat Ra's. Logan just stood there pretty much, took the spit, let Toad gust him, and get caught with the tongue only to one shot him. Lame.... Ra's could easily dodge the spit, recover from the gust, and cut off Toads tongue, then his throat.