Ra's al Ghul vs. Daredevil

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Daredevil is a better fighter...

" Daredevil is a better fighter... "

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" Daredevil is a better fighter... "

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" Daredevil is a better fighter... "

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" Daredevil is a better fighter... "

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Tie.

Murdock

DD every time. 

Daredevil

DD wins.

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" Daredevil is a better fighter... "

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" DD every time.  "

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" DD wins. "

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" Daredevil is a better fighter... "

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@saiyan_earthling said:

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@Billdevil said:

" DD every time.  "

@Dane said:

" Daredevil "

@Crom-Cruach said:

" DD wins. "

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Everybody else beat me to it.

I know this is 3 years old. but id just like to make a point an state daredevil could handle the entire league of shadows if he wanted to

Daredevil

Matt, handily.

Daredevil

That's a bit absurd.

Michael

DD.

@those_eyes It's Sirnicktheepic, making absurd comments is all he does.

Matt stomps

Wow! I need to read more DD comics. Matt would not have been my first choice at all but hey, just means I got to catch up

Ra's al Ghul. He has been mastering combat for over 600 years and gives batman good fights. It has also been stated that he hits as hard as lady Shiva, according to batman.

That's what I always believed to be the truth. Ra's Al Ghul being one of the absolute best fighters out there, embarrassing Batman more than once.

I haven't read any of the new DD comics. How would he be stronger than Ra's Al Ghul?

DD 9/10

@gabranth: yeah I think Ra's can definitely take this. And for strength, I don't know if Ra's has any strength feats. And daredevil once overturned a limo full of people. But even so batman said Shiva hits as hard as Ra's so I think its fair to say that ras hits harder than daredevil

DD in a good fight

That Ra's scan of him throwing Batman is during a Lazarus Pit berserker fury.

Daredevil is the better hand to hand fighter, i think, if only by a little. Ra's is formidable, but he seems to be better with weapons than without.

Ra's has lived for centuries and has mentored one of the greatest combatants ever, Batman himself. So he should take this one. Not saying it will be easy.

Daredevil

Ra's is not that impressive. Just because he trained Batman doesn't make him able to beat high tier martial artists.

I don't recall ever reading about that, but regardless, that statement it's beyond ridiculous...Lady Shiva has shattered brick with her punches, Ra's having centuries to train doesn't mean that he can keep up with a top-tier fight...for instances, sword fights are his aread of expertise, and he has lost in 1-on-1 sword fights, to Batman, Nightwing, and Read Robin...who have not trained for centuries.

Daredevil.

@bat_girl_cc: He said it when he was fighting Lady Shiva in Death in the Family.

I know about that instance, i even have the full scans of that instance here, though i don't recall noticing that statement, but i will check it out, although its a non-sensical statement regardless.

Ra's was enhanced into superhuman by the Lazarus pit, add in hundreds of years of battle experience and sword mastery for a clean victory.

@elderskaar:

Ra's was enhanced into superhuman by the Lazarus pit

Batman took out Ra's without much effort in Batman Hush. Daredevil is faster than Batman and more skilled than Ra's, why should Ra's do good? Besides, Daredevil regularly bats away bullets (I really hope that you see the pun, BTW).

add in hundreds of years of battle experience

Daredevil doesn't have as much expirience, but what he does have, is skills that surpasses Ra's. Expirienced really means nothing against someone like Daredevil, because he's done what he's been doing for a long time now, and not to mention that he got skills that disables Ra's expirience. A guy who is more skilled than his opponent with less expirience, but still expirience, nonetheless > a guy with hundreds years of expirience. Besides, I don't think Ra's even has hundreds of years of expirience.

sword mastery for a clean victory.

Ra's can have all the sword mastery he wants to, but he's not defeating someone who he won't be able to tag. Ra's isn't tagging Daredevil with the sword, and there's a lot of evidence supporting my claim. Unless you can show me evidence that Ra's can tag someone who is already aware of where he's gonna strike, and who also posesses speed that will make Ra's look like a child, this doesn't hold much value. After all, agility highly favours this on Daredevil's side.

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@captain_batman_ftw said:

@elderskaar:

Ra's was enhanced into superhuman by the Lazarus pit

Batman took out Ra's without much effort in Batman Hush. Daredevil is faster than Batman and more skilled than Ra's, why should Ra's do good? Besides, Daredevil regularly bats away bullets (I really hope that you see the pun, BTW).

Probably because Bruce's suit is superior to Daredevil's suit, making him near bulletproof and tanking bombs at moments, also Bats has much more gadgets than Daredevil has at his side, that could play a huge part.

add in hundreds of years of battle experience

Daredevil doesn't have as much expirience, but what he does have, is skills that surpasses Ra's. Expirienced really means nothing against someone like Daredevil, because he's done what he's been doing for a long time now, and not to mention that he got skills that disables Ra's expirience. A guy who is more skilled than his opponent with less expirience, but still expirience, nonetheless > a guy with hundreds years of expirience. Besides, I don't think Ra's even has hundreds of years of expirience.

I haven't really seen much from Daredevil skill wise other than using pressure points, compared to Bruce who practiced kicking trees in half, elite ninja training and learned all martial arts there is on earth. Also Ra's is actually over 100 years old, he is claimed to be over 600 years old.

sword mastery for a clean victory.

Ra's can have all the sword mastery he wants to, but he's not defeating someone who he won't be able to tag. Ra's isn't tagging Daredevil with the sword, and there's a lot of evidence supporting my claim. Unless you can show me evidence that Ra's can tag someone who is already aware of where he's gonna strike, and who also posesses speed that will make Ra's look like a child, this doesn't hold much value. After all, agility highly favours this on Daredevil's side.

I know that Daredevil is fast but he is not really faster then Batman, they are about equal in my opinion and Ra's doesn't have much problem tagging him, he has done that lots of times in the past.

Also,

Radar sense is cool but It's more useful when he is getting ambushed then in direct combat.

Daredevil definitely defeats the head of the demon.

Daredevil

@captain_batman_ftw said:

@elderskaar:

Ra's was enhanced into superhuman by the Lazarus pit

Batman took out Ra's without much effort in Batman Hush. Daredevil is faster than Batman and more skilled than Ra's, why should Ra's do good? Besides, Daredevil regularly bats away bullets (I really hope that you see the pun, BTW).

add in hundreds of years of battle experience

Daredevil doesn't have as much expirience, but what he does have, is skills that surpasses Ra's. Expirienced really means nothing against someone like Daredevil, because he's done what he's been doing for a long time now, and not to mention that he got skills that disables Ra's expirience. A guy who is more skilled than his opponent with less expirience, but still expirience, nonetheless > a guy with hundreds years of expirience. Besides, I don't think Ra's even has hundreds of years of expirience.

sword mastery for a clean victory.

Ra's can have all the sword mastery he wants to, but he's not defeating someone who he won't be able to tag. Ra's isn't tagging Daredevil with the sword, and there's a lot of evidence supporting my claim. Unless you can show me evidence that Ra's can tag someone who is already aware of where he's gonna strike, and who also posesses speed that will make Ra's look like a child, this doesn't hold much value. After all, agility highly favours this on Daredevil's side.

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@elderskaar: I saw it, but I don't really agree with any of your rebuttals.

With skilled aquired over 600-700 years, Ras would slaughter Matt

@ninjawarrior268: Except with all that experience he loses to Batman.

Matt's just as well trained as Bruce (arguably better) but has far superior reflexes and is far more agile. The only advantage Ra's has is experience and that won't do much for him here.

@elderskaar:

Probably because Bruce's suit is superior to Daredevil's suit, making him near bulletproof and tanking bombs at moments, also Bats has much more gadgets than Daredevil has at his side, that could play a huge part.

Batman was shirtless at the time, IIRC. It was all about speed and skills with the sword in that match, because they had a sword fight. Ra's lost quickly when Batman got the info he needed. Batman didn't use any of his gadgets or martial arts skills; it was only through speed and sword skill.

I haven't really seen much from Daredevil skill wise other than using pressure points, compared to Bruce who practiced kicking trees in half, elite ninja training and learned all martial arts there is on earth. Also Ra's is actually over 100 years old, he is claimed to be over 600 years old.

Pressure points good enough to make Punisher yell out in pain and fighting skill good enough to match Marvel's top tiers. Daredevil isn't as good as Batman when it comes to training, but Daredevil is still as good as Batman when it comes to purely H2H skills. I want proof that he actually have so many years of expirience of fighting. Regardless, it doesn't even matter wether or not he got that much expirience, because that won't help him against Daredevil who has enough expirience and skill good enough to surpass Ra's' skill. I just want to see the evidence because you claimed it.

I know that Daredevil is fast but he is not really faster then Batman, they are about equal in my opinion and Ra's doesn't have much problem tagging him, he has done that lots of times in the past.

Daredevil is faster than Batman by a hairstraw. Daredevil is more agile and faster than Batman, but not by much, though. Ra's has tagged him before, but that was Batman before Knightfall, IIRC. Ra's isn't tagging Daredevil due to Daredevil's radar sense. It allows Daredevil to sense Ra's attacks before Ra's even does it. It's like Spider-Sense, just much better due to its other enhanced senses.

Radar sense is cool but It's more useful when he is getting ambushed then in direct combat.

This is so wrong. Radar Sense is very useful, and it's one of the reasons as for why Daredevil can do good against groups of men. Daredevil's Radar Sense works as Spiderman's Spider-Sense. I want legitimate proof of Ra's being able to tag Daredevil (let alone defeat him).