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#1 Posted by Zen Dog (36 posts) - - Show Bio

Rank them 1 thru 10......Most powerful mutants in Marvel..... Of the X-Men world    
#2 Posted by Son Of Storm (11252 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Jean Grey(W/PF)
  • Legion
  • Vulcan
  • Rachel Grey
  • Magneto
  • Storm
  • Professor X----Emma Frost
  • Iceman
  • Psylocke
  • 3 in one
  • Hellion..
  • Pixie
I think thats everyone.
#3 Posted by ssjsuperman (843 posts) - - Show Bio

jean,ice man storm,
#4 Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon (2271 posts) - - Show Bio

10.   Vulcan
9.   Emplate (with teleportation it should not be too hard for him to get near enough to the omega level mutants and gain all their power) 
8.   Legion 
7.  Mr. M     
6.   Franklin Richards 
5.   Rachel Summers 
4.  Scarlet Witch
3.   Hope (Messiah Child)
1.  Dark Pheonix (Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor)

#5 Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon (2271 posts) - - Show Bio
@ssjsuperman said:
"jean,ice man storm, "

No way is storm in the top ten.  She cannot influence the world on a global scale--only several miles at a time.  Dark Pheonix has been suggested to have limitless power, and Scarlet Witch and Franklin have done far more impressive feats (creating House of M, Decimation, destroying Abraxas...)  Iceman could theoretically freeze the world, so i get you mentioning him, but storm is no way capable of that
#6 Posted by randumo24 (4655 posts) - - Show Bio
@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
"10.   Vulcan9.   Emplate (with teleportation it should not be too hard for him to get near enough to the omega level mutants and gain all their power) 8.   Legion 7.  Mr. M      6.   Franklin Richards 5.   Rachel Summers 4.  Scarlet Witch3.   Hope (Messiah Child)1.  Dark Pheonix (Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor) "

White Phoenix is more powerful than Dark Phoenix
#7 Posted by Son Of Storm (11252 posts) - - Show Bio
@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @ssjsuperman said:
"jean,ice man storm, "
No way is storm in the top ten.  She cannot influence the world on a global scale--only several miles at a time.  Dark Pheonix has been suggested to have limitless power, and Scarlet Witch and Franklin have done far more impressive feats (creating House of M, Decimation, destroying Abraxas...)  Iceman could theoretically freeze the world, so i get you mentioning him, but storm is no way capable of that "
That first statement is completely wrong-Sorry...Storm can also theoretically freeze the world or destroy it(mostly by killing us)
#8 Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon (2271 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of Storm said:
" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @ssjsuperman said:
"jean,ice man storm, "
No way is storm in the top ten.  She cannot influence the world on a global scale--only several miles at a time.  Dark Pheonix has been suggested to have limitless power, and Scarlet Witch and Franklin have done far more impressive feats (creating House of M, Decimation, destroying Abraxas...)  Iceman could theoretically freeze the world, so i get you mentioning him, but storm is no way capable of that "
That first statement is completely wrong-Sorry...Storm can also theoretically freeze the world or destroy it(mostly by killing us) "

Wow really?  Where did it say that??  (Even so thats not particularly impressive: there are easily 15 mutants who can/could do that). 
#9 Edited by Son Of Storm (11252 posts) - - Show Bio
@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:

" @Son Of Storm said:

" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @ssjsuperman said:
"jean,ice man storm, "
No way is storm in the top ten.  She cannot influence the world on a global scale--only several miles at a time.  Dark Pheonix has been suggested to have limitless power, and Scarlet Witch and Franklin have done far more impressive feats (creating House of M, Decimation, destroying Abraxas...)  Iceman could theoretically freeze the world, so i get you mentioning him, but storm is no way capable of that "
That first statement is completely wrong-Sorry...Storm can also theoretically freeze the world or destroy it(mostly by killing us) "
Wow really?  Where did it say that??  (Even so thats not particularly impressive: there are easily 15 mutants who can/could do that).  "
Its part of her power. Name them please and they have to be from the X-men
#10 Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon (2271 posts) - - Show Bio
@randumo24 said:
"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
"10.   Vulcan9.   Emplate (with teleportation it should not be too hard for him to get near enough to the omega level mutants and gain all their power) 8.   Legion 7.  Mr. M      6.   Franklin Richards 5.   Rachel Summers 4.  Scarlet Witch3.   Hope (Messiah Child)1.  Dark Pheonix (Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor) "
White Phoenix is more powerful than Dark Phoenix "

Who is White Pheonix. There isn't a page for her on comicvine or any mention on wikipedia. 
#11 Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon (2271 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of Storm said:
"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:

" @Son Of Storm said:

" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @ssjsuperman said:
"jean,ice man storm, "
No way is storm in the top ten.  She cannot influence the world on a global scale--only several miles at a time.  Dark Pheonix has been suggested to have limitless power, and Scarlet Witch and Franklin have done far more impressive feats (creating House of M, Decimation, destroying Abraxas...)  Iceman could theoretically freeze the world, so i get you mentioning him, but storm is no way capable of that "
That first statement is completely wrong-Sorry...Storm can also theoretically freeze the world or destroy it(mostly by killing us) "
Wow really?  Where did it say that??  (Even so thats not particularly impressive: there are easily 15 mutants who can/could do that).  "
Its part of her power. Name them please and they have to be from the X-men
"

The rule wasnt that they had to be an X-Man--they just had to be from the X-Men world. 
#12 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23245 posts) - - Show Bio

1. MJJ.

#13 Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon (2271 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut said:
"1. MJJ. "

What does that stand 4??
#14 Posted by Son Of Storm (11252 posts) - - Show Bio
@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @randumo24 said:
"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
"10.   Vulcan9.   Emplate (with teleportation it should not be too hard for him to get near enough to the omega level mutants and gain all their power) 8.   Legion 7.  Mr. M      6.   Franklin Richards 5.   Rachel Summers 4.  Scarlet Witch3.   Hope (Messiah Child)1.  Dark Pheonix (Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor) "
White Phoenix is more powerful than Dark Phoenix "
Who is White Pheonix. There isn't a page for her on comicvine or any mention on wikipedia.  "
White Phoenix of the Crown is the ultimate version of Phoenix. 
 
@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @Son Of Storm said:
"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:

" @Son Of Storm said:

" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @ssjsuperman said:
"jean,ice man storm, "
No way is storm in the top ten.  She cannot influence the world on a global scale--only several miles at a time.  Dark Pheonix has been suggested to have limitless power, and Scarlet Witch and Franklin have done far more impressive feats (creating House of M, Decimation, destroying Abraxas...)  Iceman could theoretically freeze the world, so i get you mentioning him, but storm is no way capable of that "
That first statement is completely wrong-Sorry...Storm can also theoretically freeze the world or destroy it(mostly by killing us) "
Wow really?  Where did it say that??  (Even so thats not particularly impressive: there are easily 15 mutants who can/could do that).  "
Its part of her power. Name them please and they have to be from the X-men
"
The rule wasnt that they had to be an X-Man--they just had to be from the X-Men world.  "
Ok..But there still isn't 15 people who can destroy the world...Iceman.Storm.Magneto. and that's about it.
#15 Posted by Son Of Storm (11252 posts) - - Show Bio
@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
"1. MJJ. "
What does that stand 4?? "
Mad Jim Jaspers
One of the MOST POWERFUL mutants EVER!
#16 Posted by Quintus_Knightfall (84539 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of Storm: Agreed.
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#17 Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon (2271 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of Storm said:
" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @randumo24 said:
"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
"10.   Vulcan9.   Emplate (with teleportation it should not be too hard for him to get near enough to the omega level mutants and gain all their power) 8.   Legion 7.  Mr. M      6.   Franklin Richards 5.   Rachel Summers 4.  Scarlet Witch3.   Hope (Messiah Child)1.  Dark Pheonix (Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor) "
White Phoenix is more powerful than Dark Phoenix "
Who is White Pheonix. There isn't a page for her on comicvine or any mention on wikipedia.  "
White Phoenix of the Crown is the ultimate version of Phoenix. 
 
@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @Son Of Storm said:
"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:

" @Son Of Storm said:

" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @ssjsuperman said:
"jean,ice man storm, "
No way is storm in the top ten.  She cannot influence the world on a global scale--only several miles at a time.  Dark Pheonix has been suggested to have limitless power, and Scarlet Witch and Franklin have done far more impressive feats (creating House of M, Decimation, destroying Abraxas...)  Iceman could theoretically freeze the world, so i get you mentioning him, but storm is no way capable of that "
That first statement is completely wrong-Sorry...Storm can also theoretically freeze the world or destroy it(mostly by killing us) "
Wow really?  Where did it say that??  (Even so thats not particularly impressive: there are easily 15 mutants who can/could do that).  "
Its part of her power. Name them please and they have to be from the X-men
"
The rule wasnt that they had to be an X-Man--they just had to be from the X-Men world.  "
Ok..But there still isn't 15 people who can destroy the world...Iceman.Storm.Magneto. and that's about it. "

I already posted my list of the top ten most powerful and Iceman Storm and Magneto weren't on it.  Here is that list and read how each can do it: 
10.   Vulcan--Equal in power to Black Bolt, who's single word can destroy a city.  It has been said that  BB could destroy the world, so clearly Vulcan can too.   
9.   Emplate (with teleportation it should not be too hard for him to get near enough to the omega level mutants and gain all their power)--all he needs is to taste the bone marrow of any of the characters we mentioned 
8.   Legion--has been shown to be able to do anything, if all his powers worked in synchrony or he had the right combination pop up he could do it.
7.  Mr. M--has control of all matter with no limits     
6.   Franklin Richards--destroyed Abraxas, who was equal in power to Galactus.  If he can do that, he can destroy the world (and his power wasnt even fully developed yet) 
5.   Rachel Summers--has access to Dark Pheonix power 
4.  Scarlet Witch--has realtered world several times, could easily destroy it if she wanted too (changing all those minds and all those events is harder than just disassembling some space rock)
3.   Hope (Messiah Child)--has Dark Pheonix Poer
1.  Dark Pheonix (Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor)--Dark Pheonix destroyed a solar system in five minutes.   
 
Those four others you want to know about: Magneto, Iceman, Polaris, Mimic (he just has to get within twenty feet of any of these other guys) 
I could mention more
#18 Posted by Son Of Storm (11252 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambler said:
" @Son Of Storm: Agreed. "
On what?
#19 Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon (2271 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of Storm said:
" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
"1. MJJ. "
What does that stand 4?? "
Mad Jim Jaspers
One of the MOST POWERFUL mutants EVER! "

Oh yeah I forgot to mention him... 
#20 Posted by Quintus_Knightfall (84539 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of Storm said:
" @Gambler said:
" @Son Of Storm: Agreed. "
On what? "
MJJ
Moderator
#21 Posted by Asher Faust (391 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna just go randomly off the top of my head for this one. 
 
1) MJJ 
2) Hyperstorm(He's a Summers. He's part of the X-Universe) 
3) Franklin Richards 
4) Synch 
5) Nate Grey 
6) Vulcan 
7) Legion 
8) Mister M 
9) Scarlet Witch 
10) Jamie Braddock 
#22 Posted by Son Of Storm (11252 posts) - - Show Bio
@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @Son Of Storm said:
" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @randumo24 said:
"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
"10.   Vulcan9.   Emplate (with teleportation it should not be too hard for him to get near enough to the omega level mutants and gain all their power) 8.   Legion 7.  Mr. M      6.   Franklin Richards 5.   Rachel Summers 4.  Scarlet Witch3.   Hope (Messiah Child)1.  Dark Pheonix (Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor) "
White Phoenix is more powerful than Dark Phoenix "
Who is White Pheonix. There isn't a page for her on comicvine or any mention on wikipedia.  "
White Phoenix of the Crown is the ultimate version of Phoenix. 
 
@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @Son Of Storm said:
"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:

" @Son Of Storm said:

" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @ssjsuperman said:
"jean,ice man storm, "
No way is storm in the top ten.  She cannot influence the world on a global scale--only several miles at a time.  Dark Pheonix has been suggested to have limitless power, and Scarlet Witch and Franklin have done far more impressive feats (creating House of M, Decimation, destroying Abraxas...)  Iceman could theoretically freeze the world, so i get you mentioning him, but storm is no way capable of that "
That first statement is completely wrong-Sorry...Storm can also theoretically freeze the world or destroy it(mostly by killing us) "
Wow really?  Where did it say that??  (Even so thats not particularly impressive: there are easily 15 mutants who can/could do that).  "
Its part of her power. Name them please and they have to be from the X-men
"
The rule wasnt that they had to be an X-Man--they just had to be from the X-Men world.  "
Ok..But there still isn't 15 people who can destroy the world...Iceman.Storm.Magneto. and that's about it. "
I already posted my list of the top ten most powerful and Iceman Storm and Magneto weren't on it.  Here is that list and read how each can do it: 10.   Vulcan--Equal in power to Black Bolt, who's single word can destroy a city.  It has been said that  BB could destroy the world, so clearly Vulcan can too.   9.   Emplate (with teleportation it should not be too hard for him to get near enough to the omega level mutants and gain all their power)--all he needs is to taste the bone marrow of any of the characters we mentioned 8.   Legion--has been shown to be able to do anything, if all his powers worked in synchrony or he had the right combination pop up he could do it.7.  Mr. M--has control of all matter with no limits      6.   Franklin Richards--destroyed Abraxas, who was equal in power to Galactus.  If he can do that, he can destroy the world (and his power wasnt even fully developed yet) 5.   Rachel Summers--has access to Dark Pheonix power 4.  Scarlet Witch--has realtered world several times, could easily destroy it if she wanted too (changing all those minds and all those events is harder than just disassembling some space rock)3.   Hope (Messiah Child)--has Dark Pheonix Poer1.  Dark Pheonix (Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor)--Dark Pheonix destroyed a solar system in five minutes.    Those four others you want to know about: Magneto, Iceman, Polaris, Mimic (he just has to get within twenty feet of any of these other guys) I could mention more "
10-I have no doubt that BB can destroy the world but I dont know about Vulcan.
9.True but what Omega would he even be able to touch?
8.Yes legion is a strong mutant but I dont think he has world destroying powers.
7.Agreed
6.In his adult form he is powerful. CURRENTLY he's small scale reality warping
5.Rachel has never had Dark Phoenix power. DP was a part of the phoenix that was corrupted by humanity and emotion and tampering. Currently she has NO PF and isn't a world destroyer.
4.I'm not sure. SW capabilities all have to do with her mind. If she's insane her powers seem to be boosted?
3.Hope..UMMM no...She(CURRENTLY) doesn't have ANY powers.
1.Jean(W/DPF) can destroy the world
#23 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio

White Phoenix of the Crown
Mad Jim JASPERS 
Rachel Grey
Hyperstorm
Vulcan
Siena Blaze
Magneto
Iceman 
Storm
X-Man/Cable/Stryfe
Apocalypse

#24 Posted by krisboyz781 (955 posts) - - Show Bio

synch

#25 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut: White Phoenix beats Jaspers.
#26 Posted by Johnny_Nemesis (2170 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks said:
" @Lance Uppercut: White Phoenix beats Jaspers. "
no
#27 Posted by Asher Faust (391 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks:
Half your list isn't right.
#28 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Asher Faust: Why not?
 
@Johnny_Nemesis said:
" @cracks said:
" @Lance Uppercut: White Phoenix beats Jaspers. "
no "

Why not?
#29 Posted by Asher Faust (391 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks:
Magneto, Iceman, Apocalypse. Storm, Siena Blaze all need to be taken off. And replaced. Proteus is stronger than all of them and he doesn't make the list. Think about it.
#30 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Asher Faust: Proteus is just one character though. 
#31 Posted by Asher Faust (391 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks:
There's Legion. He's stronger than all of them as well. Frankil Richards, Jamie Braddock. There's alot of them.
#32 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Asher Faust: Only Legion from Legion Quest would defeat them.  I don't know if Legion can defeat Cable at full power without the TO virus though.  Franklin is above Jamie by a bit.  I don't know if Hyperstorm can beat Rachel Grey though. 
#33 Posted by Asher Faust (391 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks:
Legion can beat them. period. Him versus Full power Cable would be crazy. Hyperstorm would rapestomp Rachel.
#34 Posted by Zen Dog (36 posts) - - Show Bio

my list 1 to 12......From 1 being the best to 12 being the least....

1. Jean Grey(DP)
2. Onslaught
3. Nate Grey
4. Magneto
5. Apocalpse
6. Vulcan
7. Exodus
8. Namor
9. Scarlet Witch
10. Iceman
11. Weapon Omega
12. cable    
#35 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zen Dog: 
1. White Phoenix of the Crown is above Dark Phoenix
2. Onslaught is not a mutant
3. Nate Grey is not up there
6. Vulcan can defeat Apocalypse
7. Exodus would be a match for Stryfe.
 
 
@Asher Faust said:
" @cracks: Legion can beat them. period. Him versus Full power Cable would be crazy. Hyperstorm would rapestomp Rachel. "

Rachel defeated Galactus, Hyperstorm did not.  You think Legion would defeat Cable?
#36 Posted by Asher Faust (391 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks:
That was PIS. Rachel couldn't touch Vulcan. Can Vulcan beat Hyperstorm? The answer is no. lol I think Legion(sane) would give Full power Cable a run for his money.
#37 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Asher Faust: Rachel with Phoenix Force would defeat Vulcan. Didn't Dark Phoenix also defeat Galactus? So it may not be PIS.  Rachel's powers show some connection to the Phoenix Force, making her a mini Jean Grey.
#38 Posted by Asher Faust (391 posts) - - Show Bio

She doesn't have the phoenix anymore. When did rachel beat Galactus? Sometimes I wonder about you, cracks. You're a noob. That's for sure, but I can't tell if you're hardheaded or just dumb.
#39 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Asher Faust: I thought that Rachel Grey's final stage of her mutant evolution is to have a fraction of the power of the Phoenix Force? Rachel defeated Galactus.  
 
Oh by the way could you give me some scallion pancakes? I am really hungry.  I will give you pizza later on in return.
 
 
 
LOL.
#40 Posted by MisterGuyMan (2027 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm a bit lazy to make a complete list right now.
 
From the top of my head though, I'd put and in no order:
 
Franklin Richards
Mr. M
Gambit (he lost his full power but that Gambit is still in the Xmen history)
That mutant that has every other mutant's power
Phoenixes
Quentin
Vulcan
Scarlet Witch

#41 Edited by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Asher Faust: LOL. I also run people over with a warthog in Halo multiplayer. LOL. NOOB LOL.
#42 Posted by Indianmagik (22 posts) - - Show Bio

what about elixer, guy has the ability to give and take life with just a touch
#43 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Asher Faust said:
" She doesn't have the phoenix anymore. When did rachel beat Galactus? Sometimes I wonder about you, cracks. You're a noob. That's for sure, but I can't tell if you're hardheaded or just dumb. "
Rachel defeated Galactus while possessing the Phoenix Force, and against a severely weakened Galan. On her own, she would have lost, obviously.
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#44 Posted by The Phoenix Child (561 posts) - - Show Bio

Rachel is still powerful though..
 
My List
1. Jean Grey in all her incarnations
2. X-Man
3. Mad Jim Jaspers/ Jamie Braddock
4. Rachel Summers
5. Franklin Richards
6. Proteus
7. Scarlet Witch
8. Magneto
9. Professor X/Cassandra Nova
10. Iceman/Storm

#45 Posted by Violet-Eyed Dragon (2271 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of Storm said:
" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @Son Of Storm said:
" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @randumo24 said:
"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
"10.   Vulcan9.   Emplate (with teleportation it should not be too hard for him to get near enough to the omega level mutants and gain all their power) 8.   Legion 7.  Mr. M      6.   Franklin Richards 5.   Rachel Summers 4.  Scarlet Witch3.   Hope (Messiah Child)1.  Dark Pheonix (Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor) "
White Phoenix is more powerful than Dark Phoenix "
Who is White Pheonix. There isn't a page for her on comicvine or any mention on wikipedia.  "
White Phoenix of the Crown is the ultimate version of Phoenix. 
 
@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @Son Of Storm said:
"@Violet-Eyed Dragon said:

" @Son Of Storm said:

" @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
" @ssjsuperman said:
"jean,ice man storm, "
No way is storm in the top ten.  She cannot influence the world on a global scale--only several miles at a time.  Dark Pheonix has been suggested to have limitless power, and Scarlet Witch and Franklin have done far more impressive feats (creating House of M, Decimation, destroying Abraxas...)  Iceman could theoretically freeze the world, so i get you mentioning him, but storm is no way capable of that "
That first statement is completely wrong-Sorry...Storm can also theoretically freeze the world or destroy it(mostly by killing us) "
Wow really?  Where did it say that??  (Even so thats not particularly impressive: there are easily 15 mutants who can/could do that).  "
Its part of her power. Name them please and they have to be from the X-men
"
The rule wasnt that they had to be an X-Man--they just had to be from the X-Men world.  "
Ok..But there still isn't 15 people who can destroy the world...Iceman.Storm.Magneto. and that's about it. "
I already posted my list of the top ten most powerful and Iceman Storm and Magneto weren't on it.  Here is that list and read how each can do it: 10.   Vulcan--Equal in power to Black Bolt, who's single word can destroy a city.  It has been said that  BB could destroy the world, so clearly Vulcan can too.   9.   Emplate (with teleportation it should not be too hard for him to get near enough to the omega level mutants and gain all their power)--all he needs is to taste the bone marrow of any of the characters we mentioned 8.   Legion--has been shown to be able to do anything, if all his powers worked in synchrony or he had the right combination pop up he could do it.7.  Mr. M--has control of all matter with no limits      6.   Franklin Richards--destroyed Abraxas, who was equal in power to Galactus.  If he can do that, he can destroy the world (and his power wasnt even fully developed yet) 5.   Rachel Summers--has access to Dark Pheonix power 4.  Scarlet Witch--has realtered world several times, could easily destroy it if she wanted too (changing all those minds and all those events is harder than just disassembling some space rock)3.   Hope (Messiah Child)--has Dark Pheonix Poer1.  Dark Pheonix (Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor)--Dark Pheonix destroyed a solar system in five minutes.    Those four others you want to know about: Magneto, Iceman, Polaris, Mimic (he just has to get within twenty feet of any of these other guys) I could mention more "
10-I have no doubt that BB can destroy the world but I dont know about Vulcan.
9.True but what Omega would he even be able to touch?
8.Yes legion is a strong mutant but I dont think he has world destroying powers.
7.Agreed
6.In his adult form he is powerful. CURRENTLY he's small scale reality warping
5.Rachel has never had Dark Phoenix power. DP was a part of the phoenix that was corrupted by humanity and emotion and tampering. Currently she has NO PF and isn't a world destroyer.
4.I'm not sure. SW capabilities all have to do with her mind. If she's insane her powers seem to be boosted?
3.Hope..UMMM no...She(CURRENTLY) doesn't have ANY powers.
1.Jean(W/DPF) can destroy the world
"

Im betting Emplate could touch Storm--all he needs to do is teleport right next to her.  She isn't invulnerable, so he'll have her power before she can react
#46 Posted by Stormultt (5317 posts) - - Show Bio
@Violet-Eyed Dragon:
Emplate can try it if he wants to get his face fried worse than it already looks like it has been.
#47 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Asher Faust said:
" She doesn't have the phoenix anymore. When did rachel beat Galactus? Sometimes I wonder about you, cracks. You're a noob. That's for sure, but I can't tell if you're hardheaded or just dumb. "
Rachel defeated Galactus while possessing the Phoenix Force, and against a severely weakened Galan. On her own, she would have lost, obviously. "
That was not Rachel it was a hostless Phoenix using Rachels form, thus the speech from Galactus about her manifested without host causing the future to not be born. 
 


 

 
How can it be hostless, when Rachel's mind and soul are within it? Moreover, why would the narration state "the frail form is that of Rachel Summers" had it been merely a shape, a guise the Force selected for itself? The Force may had been in control, but I don't see anything here that makes me believe this is a hostless Force.



@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" Galactus was full power when he came to earth to destroy Rachel after Excalibur returned from their cross time capers,that's when she flung Nova at him with such force he was knocked over, and then she decided not to fight him because the battle would put her friends and earth in danger, so she surrendered he could not at full power remove the Phoenix from her and tyring to was killing the universe.  He was admonished by Roma, The Watcher and Death for attempting this and told that it was impossible and basically a fools errand, Death told him if all he wanted to do was die then why not just surrender to Death instead. "


Nice. But also completely irrelavent to anything else mentioned.
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#48 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

"  It's not irrelavent, it goes directly to the "Rachel only defeated a straving Galan" a full powered Galan still had no power to defeat the Phoenix. "

 

 

Which is actually the point - I am talking about Rachel, not the , nor do I use the terms interchangeably. The entire conversation begun because someone mentioned that Rachel has in fact, defeated Galactus, on her own power, as a testament of it. I said it was Rachel with the might of the that accomplished that feat. Then, you say it was not Rachel, but the Force itself manifesting as Rachel, and holding Rachel's mind and soul within it,  which is fine, since I have no  wish to keep on debating semantics. Now, you keep on focusing on the Phoenix, and you say that on another occasion Galactus has failed to retract the force from Rachel, while I am trying to say that this occasion has also nothing to do with this, because again, the terms Rachel and Phoenix are not interchangeable, at least to me, and for the purpose of this thread, I believe Rachel is used without possessing the Phoenix. So, let me ask, once again: what does any these have to do with Rachel defeating Galactus by herself? Rachel, not Rachel empowered with the Phoenix.

 

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#49 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_: Isn't the final stage of Rachel Grey's mutant evolution to have a small fraction of the Phoenix Force?
 
@The Phoenix Child said:
" Rachel is still powerful though..  My List 1. Jean Grey in all her incarnations 2. X-Man 3. Mad Jim Jaspers/ Jamie Braddock 4. Rachel Summers 5. Franklin Richards 6. Proteus 7. Scarlet Witch 8. Magneto 9. Professor X/Cassandra Nova 10. Iceman/Storm "

Cassandra Nova is not a mutant.           %Pr
#50 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks said:

" @Morpheus_: Isn't the final stage of Rachel Grey's mutant evolution to have a small fraction of the Phoenix Force?
 

 Since it is not a naturally occurring stage in her pre-existing evolution, I would say no, but I can see others disagreeing.    
 
Also, since a few words from my original post from above didn't appear, I just edited it.
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