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#51 Posted by Wolfrazer (7670 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: Doesn't mean it didn't happen and isn't canon.

But anyway OP needs to specify which T-800 this is, the T1 or TS one.

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#52 Posted by Dernman (15681 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: *sticks fingers in ears* Na na na don't hear you. It never happened Na na na.

#53 Posted by russellmania77 (15807 posts) - - Show Bio

rambo ftw

#54 Posted by laflux (17548 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: i feel the same way.

Seconded. Terminator 3 was horse sh!t, especially compared to Terminator 2.

As for the Battle, Terminator

#55 Posted by Pokeysteve (8658 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2:

No win condition is stated. Rambo just needs to incapacitate it to win. An explosive arrow and 4 frag grenades should do the trick. The Terminators have shown to be damaged by explosives even if their heads are durable as hell. Look at the pic in the OP. An explosion to the chest cavity is going to really mess up those gears and there is nothing about not using it's own Plasma rifle against it.

Not saying it's a stomp or even a definite win but that Rambo has a decent shot. Like Captain Clown up there said, it could go either way.

#56 Posted by SSJLozza (1528 posts) - - Show Bio

Terminator.

#57 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio

#58 Posted by DEATH_FROM_VALLEY (8 posts) - - Show Bio
#59 Posted by russellmania77 (15807 posts) - - Show Bio

@russellmania77 said:

rambo ftw

dies

it would make more sense if i just put rambo without the ftw part, than ur dies would make sense. here lets try it again

rambo

#60 Posted by DEATH_FROM_VALLEY (8 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1 said:

@superman69: Rambo's arrows have blown up military helicopters (parts 2 and 3)

@cadencev2: you count Salvation as canon?

It is cannon as it retcon the Sarah Conner Chronicles, which retcon T3.

So the establish cannon is now T1, T2, T3, and TS

It was T1, T2, SCC.

So there ya go.

All 4 movies are Canon which was confirmed by James Cameron

The Sarah Connor Chronicles isn't canon at all to the TERMINATOR Franchise.

#61 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio
#62 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio
#63 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio
#64 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

rambo was able to bow up a Soviet Helicopter with his arrows, Terminator got any durability feats to match that?

Well a Pipe bomb destroyed a Semi, but failed at destroying a TERMINATOR and the tanker truck Is a lot bigger than a Helicopter and weighs a lot more. T-800 in the last movie ate up grenade blast like nothing was touching him. When has Rambo shown to survive that?

#65 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below: but none of those things are designed to take explosions

the helicopter was

#66 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below: but none of those things are designed to take explosions

the helicopter was

A Semi is more durable than a helicopter. a Semi is a lot bigger and it weighs far more. Helicopters were made to fly and that's it. They weren't made to be immortal or invincible either.

#67 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (26850 posts) - - Show Bio

I can already tell where this thread is going.....

#68 Posted by russellmania77 (15807 posts) - - Show Bio

a preggo lady figured out how to kill the terminator so anyone else can

rambo wins cuz he has explosive arrows, machine gun and he's knife, also Sylvester stallone is better than arnold

#69 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

is a semi more durable? also, the semi was filled with Gasoline that went off in an unfocused explosion

the Helicopter had armor, and was designed to not be destroyed by explosions

#70 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

a preggo lady figured out how to kill the terminator so anyone else can

Well if a T-800 can beat the T-1000, I think he should be able to destroy anybody..... The T-1000 Would murder Rambo fast.

rambo wins cuz he has explosive arrows, machine gun and he's knife, also Sylvester stallone is better than arnold

I could also say TERMINATOR wins, nothing proves that one arrow blast will damage a T-800, but a Plasma Rifle which the T-800 has can easily vape Rambo.

@death_from_below:

is a semi more durable? also, the semi was filled with Gasoline that went off in an unfocused explosion

the Helicopter had armor, and was designed to not be destroyed by explosions

The semi was filled with Gasoline? So are Helicopters and other mechanical equipment you drive or fly in...... The truck went off into an explosion because Kyle threw a pipe bomb in it.

Helicopters don't have armor. They're not as big or as heavy as Semi's.... In fact that was a tanker Arnold was driving in T1, So it probably weighed alot more than a semi with a trailer.

#71 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio
#72 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio
#73 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

Rambos;'s gonna be able to dodge that

his exploding arrows are gonna cripple terminator at least

#74 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

Rambos;'s gonna be able to dodge that

his exploding arrows are gonna cripple terminator at least

Rambo can dodge plasma attacks now when you have zero ( 0 ) proof of it..... THE TERMINATOR isn't gonna use one plasma shot, he will use multiple and TERMINATOR's have perfect aiming targets as well.... Rambo's a human so his aiming technique won't be as good as a machines.

#75 Edited by russellmania77 (15807 posts) - - Show Bio

@russellmania77 said:

a preggo lady figured out how to kill the terminator so anyone else can

Well if a T-800 can beat the T-1000, I think he should be able to destroy anybody..... The T-1000 Would murder Rambo fast.

rambo wins cuz he has explosive arrows, machine gun and he's knife, also Sylvester stallone is better than arnold

I could also say TERMINATOR wins, nothing proves that one arrow blast will damage a T-800, but a Plasma Rifle which the T-800 has can easily vape Rambo.

@betatesthighlander1 said:

@death_from_below:

is a semi more durable? also, the semi was filled with Gasoline that went off in an unfocused explosion

the Helicopter had armor, and was designed to not be destroyed by explosions

The semi was filled with Gasoline? So are Helicopters and other mechanical equipment you drive or fly in...... The truck went off into an explosion because Kyle threw a pipe bomb in it.

Helicopters don't have armor. They're not as big or as heavy as Semi's.... In fact that was a tanker Arnold was driving in T1, So it probably weighed alot more than a semi with a trailer.

thats why at the end of every movie the terminator gets killed and rambo defeats armies.

FACT

#76 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

termniators have perfect aiming?

then explain the scene at Tech Noir, or really any scene involving a terminator and a protagonist

Rambo, on the other hand, has missed essentially nothing with his arrow

#77 Edited by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

termniators have perfect aiming?

then explain the scene at Tech Noir, or really any scene involving a terminator and a protagonist

Rambo, on the other hand, has missed essentially nothing with his arrow

Oh yes, lets talk about Tech Noir when the T-800 had his laser sight on Sarah's head, but he couldn't shoot her because he was interrupted with shotgun blast.......yes....... Well Sarah had help and the OP doesn't say Rambo has help from Kyle Reese.

#78 Edited by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below said:

@russellmania77 said:

a preggo lady figured out how to kill the terminator so anyone else can

Well if a T-800 can beat the T-1000, I think he should be able to destroy anybody..... The T-1000 Would murder Rambo fast.

rambo wins cuz he has explosive arrows, machine gun and he's knife, also Sylvester stallone is better than arnold

I could also say TERMINATOR wins, nothing proves that one arrow blast will damage a T-800, but a Plasma Rifle which the T-800 has can easily vape Rambo.

@betatesthighlander1 said:

@death_from_below:

is a semi more durable? also, the semi was filled with Gasoline that went off in an unfocused explosion

the Helicopter had armor, and was designed to not be destroyed by explosions

The semi was filled with Gasoline? So are Helicopters and other mechanical equipment you drive or fly in...... The truck went off into an explosion because Kyle threw a pipe bomb in it.

Helicopters don't have armor. They're not as big or as heavy as Semi's.... In fact that was a tanker Arnold was driving in T1, So it probably weighed alot more than a semi with a trailer.

thats why at the end of every movie the terminator gets killed and rambo defeats armies.

FACT

That's because in some of those movies, the TERMINATOR either instructed a human to have him killed or he commited suicide using one of his own bombs to destroy himself.

Every cop in that police station didn't do so good in the first movie. Lets see if Rambo can walk into a police station and kill 17 cops in a gun fight and walk out on foot like the T-800 did.

Never mind Rambo can't because he's a human and he's not bullet proof...... T-800's are.

FACT!

#79 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

but he had to aim for a while to get the shot, 1-2 seconds of aiming at least before trying to take the shot

anyways, what about the scene in the parking lot, or all the shoot-outs in T2

#80 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

but he had to aim for a while to get the shot, 1-2 seconds of aiming at least before trying to take the shot

anyways, what about the scene in the parking lot, or all the shoot-outs in T2

We don't know If it took the T-800 one to 2 seconds because it did or if the scene of the movie was moving in slow motion. By the looks of it, it was slow motion of the movie..... It didn't take the T-800 that long to kill the first Sarah he tracked down did it? No........ Not at all.... Now you're trying to say Rambo is faster than a speeding bullet and yet u gave no proof of it....

Shut your face. I don't wanna listen to the childish arguments.

TERMINATOR Stomps.

#81 Posted by russellmania77 (15807 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below: not a fact

cops took rambo into the sheriff's office until they pissed him off and he started whooping all the cops, walked out, went to the woods, took on half of the city left the woods and went back to the city to take on everybody again. guaranteed if Rambo wanted to kill sara connor, she would be dead and wouldnt need to muligan 3 times

#82 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

People argue about Helicopter explosions and blah blah blah

Well the T-800 got up from a truck explosion without any damage. So the T-800 will not be harmed by a freaking arrow.

#83 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below: not a fact

cops took rambo into the sheriff's office until they pissed him off and he started whooping all the cops, walked out, went to the woods, took on half of the city left the woods and went back to the city to take on everybody again. guaranteed if Rambo wanted to kill sara connor, she would be dead and wouldnt need to muligan 3 times

Did Rambo use weapons in the Sherriff's office? NO.......... Did several cops get out their fire arms? No......... Spare me your bs.

If Rambo wanted to kill Sarah connor she would have been dead? So could the T-800 if reese didn't interrupt, therefore Rambo can only kill Sarah if Reese isn't around and Reese would floor Rambo.... Reese had experience fighting Machines. Rambo only has experience fighting humans.

TERMINATOR Stomps. now shut your face.

#84 Posted by russellmania77 (15807 posts) - - Show Bio
#85 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio

That's because in some of those movies, the TERMINATOR either instructed a human to have him killed or he commited suicide using one of his own bombs to destroy himself.

Every cop in that police station didn't do so good in the first movie. Lets see if Rambo can walk into a police station and kill 17 cops in a gun fight and walk out on foot like the T-800 did.

he killed the entire Viet Cong, just walked in there and flew out in one of their helicopters, watch Rambo:First Blood Part 2

We don't know If it took the T-800 one to 2 seconds because it did or if the scene of the movie was moving in slow motion. By the looks of it, it was slow motion of the movie..... It didn't take the T-800 that long to kill the first Sarah he tracked down did it? No........ Not at all.... Now you're trying to say Rambo is faster than a speeding bullet and yet u gave no proof of it....

Shut your face. I don't wanna listen to the childish arguments.

TERMINATOR Stomps.

those two right next to each other are a joke, right

#86 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio
#87 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below said:

That's because in some of those movies, the TERMINATOR either instructed a human to have him killed or he commited suicide using one of his own bombs to destroy himself.

Every cop in that police station didn't do so good in the first movie. Lets see if Rambo can walk into a police station and kill 17 cops in a gun fight and walk out on foot like the T-800 did.

he killed the entire Viet Cong, just walked in there and flew out in one of their helicopters, watch Rambo:First Blood Part 2

@death_from_below said:

We don't know If it took the T-800 one to 2 seconds because it did or if the scene of the movie was moving in slow motion. By the looks of it, it was slow motion of the movie..... It didn't take the T-800 that long to kill the first Sarah he tracked down did it? No........ Not at all.... Now you're trying to say Rambo is faster than a speeding bullet and yet u gave no proof of it....

Shut your face. I don't wanna listen to the childish arguments.

TERMINATOR Stomps.

those two right next to each other are a joke, right

Yes and guess what? The T-800 has killed the T-1000 and the T-X, Two Models who would murder hundreds of Rambo's.....

T-800 Destroys......

#88 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

*killed the TX with a helicopter

*killed the T-100 with convenient hot lead

both of those victories were pure luck, and I'm not sure if either pof those guys could kill "hundreds of rambos"

#89 Edited by russellmania77 (15807 posts) - - Show Bio
#90 Edited by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1 said:

@death_from_below:

*killed the TX with a helicopter

Nope, he ran her over with a helicopter and pinned her down, but she wasn't killed. He killed her with one of his fuel cells.

*killed the T-100 with convenient hot lead

You mean Moltein Steel.


both of those victories were pure luck, and I'm not sure if either pof those guys could kill "hundreds of rambos"

Luck or not luck, the T-800 won and theirs nothing you can do about it.

I am positive a T-1000 could shapeshift into it's blades and tear hundreds, if not thousands of Rambos, the T-X having even deadlier weaponary than the T-1000 can do the same. not a whole lot you can do about it.

#91 Edited by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio
#92 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

luck means he couldn't do it under normal battle conditions

and I don't see the rambos just walking into the blades

#94 Posted by russellmania77 (15807 posts) - - Show Bio
#95 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@russellmania77: See now you're just trolling. Now I know the whole time I was arguing with you, I was wasting my time on a troll.

#96 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio
#97 Edited by russellmania77 (15807 posts) - - Show Bio

@russellmania77: See now you're just trolling. Now I know the whole time I was arguing with you, I was wasting my time on a troll.

yah ok, thats why u started but i dont care, i told you multiple reasons why rambo would win, you still say terminator is indestructable so ur just bias n a troll. im done

good day to you terminator fanboy.

#98 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

calling other people gay, thats how you win an argument

lmao buddy, I always won this debate along time ago. Anyone going with Rambo is either

1. a fanboy or

2. a troll or

3. both

TERMINATOR Stomps.

#99 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7500 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below:

.......................................

oaky, fine

I forgot that what you say is fact, and atempts at counterarguments are rationally impossible. sorry.

#100 Posted by Death_From_Below (223 posts) - - Show Bio

@death_from_below said:

@russellmania77: See now you're just trolling. Now I know the whole time I was arguing with you, I was wasting my time on a troll.

yah ok, thats why u started but i dont care, i told you multiple reasons why rambo would win, you still say terminator is indestructable so ur just bias n a troll. im done

good day to you terminator fanboy.

It's called common sense.

What is Rambo going to do to the T-800? The T-800 has been shot, stabbed, burned, frozen, run over by a truck, fell from insane heights, hit with plasma canons, grenade launchers, drowned, hung, walked out of a police station shoot out on foot, got up from a truck explosion without any damage like nothing happened, the T-800 can take that plasma rifle and melt Rambo's head clean off his body. especially since Rambo's just a human. =/

Man vs Machine = Machine will always win hands down.