Raiden vs Scorpion
I would say that wasn't canon, but I have no idea what counts as canon (kanon?) for Mortal Kombat :P.
well raiden got his ass kicked by sub zero and batman as part of the storyline in dc vs mk so its canon, he also got his ass kicked by shang tsung and quan chi he is a lame god
so whats the point in raiden if he is weak everywhere ? and he got his ass kicked by sub zero in ordenery world and by batman as well, plus by taven he is a loser for a god
" so whats the point in raiden if he is weak everywhere ? and he got his ass kicked by sub zero in ordenery world and by batman as well, plus by taven he is a loser for a god "Do you really expect logic in a world where the only way to stop evil soul sucking sorcerers is to beat them in a fighting tournament?
it doesnt change the fact that raiden got his ass kicked by batman, sub zero, taven,shang tsung, quan chi ..... he never won a fight he is just a loser i dont understand how can he be a god and the protector of earth if he gets his ass kicked every time he fights
Raiden didnt lose to Shang Tsung or Quan Chi
1. he was going easy on then
2. even then,he gave then a hard fight
3. after he ''lost'',Raiden got up to attack Onaga 1-2 minutes later,perfectly fine and without damage from the past fight
dude so you are telling me raiden enjoyed getting his ass kicked? come on the fate of the earth was in stake thats why he had to fight them and he wanted to finish them off but he couldnt they beat him down so please
he did use his powers since he needed to win and to defeat them i dont think hewas enjoying getting his ass kicked, he was knocked out of course he got up later he wasnt dead he cant die he is a god but he got his ass handed to him by shang tsung and quan chi, and taven also served him his ass just like sub zero and batman
Epic Fail
He was going easy on Quan Chi or Shang Tsung, He was trying to kill them before they resurrected the Dragon King's Army
Raiden is weak in Outworld but even if they were in Earthrealm, Raiden still would have been defeated by the Dragon King who was night stoppable with the kamidogus.
Scorpion was capable of defeating him and all his allies with ease, so that alone puts him above Raiden in terms of power.
Obivously no one knows anything about Mortal Kombat
Raiden is weakened by Qutworld and plus Shang Tsung was being powered by the Soulnado which kept him in his prime the whole fight and Quan Chi had Shinnoks's Amulet which increased his magic. Raiden had the upper hand most of the fight but was eventually defeated by their combined might.
Raiden has never been defeated by Sub Zero or Batman, MK VS DC was non canon which means it never happen in the main storyline
"it doesnt change the fact that raiden got his ass kicked by batman, sub zero, taven,shang tsung, quan chi ..... he never won a fight he is just a loser i dont understand how can he be a god and the protector of earth if he gets his ass kicked every time he fights "
Are you stupid?
It's because that's all part of the plot.
Obviously, in a realistic match, Raiden would be able to beat some of those people.
Citing what happened in a planned storyline is just retarded.
I mean, in most adventures, the hero beats the bad guy, no matter how strong he is.
Does that mean all the badguy's suck? No, usually it's just they aren't acting realistic.
The battles here are supposed to be based on what would happen in actuality.
" @Matezoide:yes,he was,otherwise he would have just exploded on their asses and be done with it,just because he was fighting then,doesnt mean he was going all out
Epic Fail
He was going easy on Quan Chi or Shang Tsung, He was trying to kill them before they resurrected the Dragon King's Army Raiden is weak in Outworld but even if they were in Earthrealm, Raiden still would have been defeated by the Dragon King who was night stoppable with the kamidogus. Scorpion was capable of defeating him and all his allies with ease, so that alone puts him above Raiden in terms of power. Obivously no one knows anything about Mortal Kombat "
that means Spider-Man goes all out against Scorpion? that means Thor never holds back?
this is non-cannon,Scorpion never defeated Onaga and he never could,try to use some logic
that guy whose name i forgot (ya know...the one that actualy defeated Onaga cannon wise) required help to beat him,but he made Scorpion his personal b!tch,now stop trolling and go grow a brain,correcting your stupidty is annoying
"@Matezoide:
Epic Fail
He was going easy on Quan Chi or Shang Tsung, He was trying to kill them before they resurrected the Dragon King's Army Raiden is weak in Outworld but even if they were in Earthrealm, Raiden still would have been defeated by the Dragon King who was night stoppable with the kamidogus. Scorpion was capable of defeating him and all his allies with ease, so that alone puts him above Raiden in terms of power. Obivously no one knows anything about Mortal Kombat "
are you dumb? its you who doesnt know crap about the subject, scorpion never defeated onaga first of all it was a what if situation and second of all even if you want to make it canon the elder gods enhanced his powers and made him stronger in order to defeat onaga so scorpion without the elder gods help is still the scorpion that gets his shit beat up by sub zero and was raped by quan chi , drahmin and moloch
" @NickA said:and Shujinko :)"@Matezoide:are you dumb? its you who doesnt know crap about the subject, scorpion never defeated onaga first of all it was a what if situation and second of all even if you want to make it canon the elder gods enhanced his powers and made him stronger in order to defeat onaga so scorpion without the elder gods help is still the scorpion that gets his shit beat up by sub zero and was raped by quan chi , drahmin and moloch "
Epic Fail
He was going easy on Quan Chi or Shang Tsung, He was trying to kill them before they resurrected the Dragon King's Army Raiden is weak in Outworld but even if they were in Earthrealm, Raiden still would have been defeated by the Dragon King who was night stoppable with the kamidogus. Scorpion was capable of defeating him and all his allies with ease, so that alone puts him above Raiden in terms of power. Obivously no one knows anything about Mortal Kombat "
"and anyone who knows anything about you knows you are always wrong
Fail
BECAUSE NO ONE DOESNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MORTAL KOMABT AND I DONT FEEL LIKE EDUCATING THEM
Scorpion wins, Anyone who knows anything about Mortal Kombat knows I'm right
End of Story "
Why the hell would Raiden go easy on Shang Tsung and Quan Chi when they are his enemies?
Second It was never stated that Monster was Scorpion and In MK Deception Konquest Scorpion trained Shujinko in his fighting style so he would help him track down Quan Chi, Scorpion would of killed Onaga if Shujinko and Nightwolf didnt get to him first.
THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPEN IF SHUJINKO & NIGHTWOLF DIDNT DEFEAT ONAGA FIRST
"@NickA said:"@Matezoide:are you dumb? its you who doesnt know crap about the subject, scorpion never defeated onaga first of all it was a what if situation and second of all even if you want to make it canon the elder gods enhanced his powers and made him stronger in order to defeat onaga so scorpion without the elder gods help is still the scorpion that gets his shit beat up by sub zero and was raped by quan chi , drahmin and moloch "
Epic Fail
He was going easy on Quan Chi or Shang Tsung, He was trying to kill them before they resurrected the Dragon King's Army Raiden is weak in Outworld but even if they were in Earthrealm, Raiden still would have been defeated by the Dragon King who was night stoppable with the kamidogus. Scorpion was capable of defeating him and all his allies with ease, so that alone puts him above Raiden in terms of power. Obivously no one knows anything about Mortal Kombat "
Fail
You dont know much about Mortal Kombat
Thor goes on easy on his enemies,despite the situation,same goes for Spider-Man,Wolverine (well....kinda),Superman,The Flash,etc..." @Matezoide:
Why the hell would Raiden go easy on Shang Tsung and Quan Chi when they are his enemies?
Second It was never stated that Monster was Scorpion and In MK Deception Scorpion trained Shujinko in his fighting style so he would help him track down Quan Chi, Scorpion would of killed Onaga if Shujinko and Nightwolf didnt get to him first.
THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPEN IF SHUJINKO & NIGHTWOLF DIDNT DEFEAT ONAGA FIRST
"
i am not talking about Monster,Scorpion was defeated by Shujinko,who needed help to beat Onaga,thereof not only your video is non-cannon,it is also impossible
lets put it this way both scorpion and raiden are losers, the characters that never get there ass kicked are jax sonya liu kang and cyrax all the others get there asses kicked
Thor isnt Raiden
You have no proof suggesting that Raiden went easy on Shang Tsung & Quan Chi
If Raiden went easy on Shang Tsung & Quan Chi he basically screwed his mission then because he was trying to stop them from resurrecting Onaga's Immortal Army
Shujinko didnt fight Scorpion, he fought a warrior named Monster who claimed that he was the Champion of the Elder Gods, Scorpion trained Shujinko so he would help him find Quan Chi
THAT IS MONSTER NOT SCORPION
SCORPION!
I advise you to do research next time because you made a ass out of yourself
and Thor isnt Spider-Man,neither is he Superman,yet they all hold back just about every time
even if Raiden was going all out,he never lost,all the damage he received during the fight he recovered in a minute or so,he was never trully beaten
about the videos,only one word
you owned yourself,Monster appears and fights Shujinko when he was young,the encounter on my video happens while Shujinko is already an old man
strike 1
at the end of your Scorpion`s appearances in MK Deception`s Konquest mode,Scorpion fight Shujinko in the same manner i posted in my video (hence,they were the same scene)
strike 2
Monster never used Scorpion`s form,nor does he looks like Scorpion,so confusing Scorpion with Monster is impossible
STRIKE 3
With that said,Scorpion could never beat Onaga realisticaly,just because he doing it on his ending proves nothing (otherwise,Blaze is the weakest MK characther EVER)
STRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKE 4
The Prosecution rests it`s case
MK VS DC is canon so the fights are canon and scorpion got his ass kicked by sub zero, liu kang, batman, lex luthor, moloch,drahmin,taven,quan chi.... scorpion sucks
raiden got beat up by shang tsung, quan chi, batman, sub zero ...raiden also sucks
sub zero got beat up by smoke , noob saibot, wonder women , lex luthor... he also suck but less then scorpion
the only ones who always win are liu kang , jax (because he is black), sonya, cyrax and all the girls because its tradition in fighting games and movies that the girl always kicks the guys ass
"@NickA said:"@Matezoide:are you dumb? its you who doesnt know crap about the subject, scorpion never defeated onaga first of all it was a what if situation and second of all even if you want to make it canon the elder gods enhanced his powers and made him stronger in order to defeat onaga so scorpion without the elder gods help is still the scorpion that gets his shit beat up by sub zero and was raped by quan chi , drahmin and moloch "
Epic Fail
He was going easy on Quan Chi or Shang Tsung, He was trying to kill them before they resurrected the Dragon King's Army Raiden is weak in Outworld but even if they were in Earthrealm, Raiden still would have been defeated by the Dragon King who was night stoppable with the kamidogus. Scorpion was capable of defeating him and all his allies with ease, so that alone puts him above Raiden in terms of power. Obivously no one knows anything about Mortal Kombat "
Scorpion Fight History
He was defeated by Older Sub Zero when he was a human with no powers in MK Mythology
He was defeated again when he became Scorpion in MK Mythology
He killed Older Sub Zero in MK1
He defeated the Younger Sub Zero in MK4, who Raiden claimed was more powerful than his brother
Scorpion was defeated by Quan Chi, Quan Chi is the Arch Sorcerer of the Netherrealm and plus he had Shinnok's Amulet which increased his magic
Scorpion defeated Quan Chi pretty easily when they were in the Netherrealm and Quan Chi couldnt use his magic
Scorpion had trouble beating Moloch & Drahmin, but he was able to give them a good fight before going down
Here is some information on Moloch & Drahmin
Moloch
1O ft Tall & Weights 8,000 lbs (4 tons)
Moloch is large and extremely powerful. The orb that is chained to his arm is capable of dealing tremendous damage, and his Oni nature allows him to fight up close to his opponents. Another use for his orb is to create a shockwave by pounding the ground with it, as well as to send a fireball towards the opponent. He is also the only character to have three healing moves.
Drahmin
6'5" Tall & Weights 270 lbs
Drahmin was not always a demon. Centuries ago, he was a cruel human warlord in Outworld. For his crimes, he was exiled to the Netherealm where his body and soul were to be tortured for all eternity. As the years dragged on, he fell further and further into insanity until his humanity was lost altogether. He eventually accepted his fate and submitted to the power of the Netherealm. He re-emerged from the Netherrealm depths as Drahmin: the Oni Tormentor.
His Iron Club, combined with his frequently unrestrained rage, makes Drahmin a deadly opponent. Many of his special moves revolve around his club, which deals heavy damage. Another of Drahmin's distinguishing features is the cloud of flies that constantly crowd his body, which he can also use as a makeshift projectile.
Club Smash: Drahmin smashes the opponent's head to pieces, causing the headless body to wander around for a few seconds before Drahmin smashes the body to the ground. (MK:DA)
" @comics kid: MK vs DC in non-cannon,every crossover is non-cannon "It might be cannon to MK (not sure) but the fights don't matter anyway because there's a huge plot devise that was weakening/strengthening everyone.
Raiden was jobbing during MKD's plot as he proved when he killed himself, Shang and Quan-Chi up like nothing at the end of the intro...only Onaga(with Kamidogu and ultimate power) was the only one not effected(he would have just did that to begin with) people have to remember Raiden holds back a lot....but then Raiden being immortal just came back anyway...
MK vs. DC like Mat said isn't canon(both the MK team and DC team confirmed this prior to the game coming out) It was just a "what if scenario" like very crossover....
Scorpion what will he do to Raiden? lol burn him? Raiden will shock him til he explodes or just banish Scorpion back to Netherrealm...either way, Scorpion won't be able to do anything to Raiden because he's an immortal Thunder God with far more power then Scorpion and Scorpion is already dead, so what will happen is Raiden will kill Scorpion a million times over and Scorpion will just come back...
lol, it's funny how every time there's a Scorpion match up the whole Scorpion vs. Shujinko comes up...the deal guys is this, Scorpion winded up in the void via what Drahmin and Moloch did to him at the end of MK: DA, then during MKD's saga it's explained that in the void he met the Elder Gods, they "super powered" Scorpion with enough power to kill Onaga and use Scorpion as their vessel and champion to do so...if Scorpion didn't agree, the Elder Gods would have let him die for good...
Now, in MK D since Shujinko was the main character they made him the man to kill Onaga via all his powers of absorbing, training of everyone during his quest, and thus he destroyed the Kamidogu and then killed Onaga....Scorpion could have if he got to Onaga first but Shujinko beat Scorpion to the punch...Shujinko even says this during Scorpion's ending that he was the only one (besides himself) who had enough power to kill Onaga...
1) He only teleported once in that fight.
2) He never attempt to release his godly essence until Onaga walked in.
3) Raiden isn't a violent fighter unless he's Dark Raiden. If you played MK 1-3, you'll notice Kahn has powers that can rattle the Earth's core. Raiden's essence attack only rattled the palace; hence, showing how weak he is in Outworld. Not even in the non-canon endings has Scorpion displayed planet-ratting abilities.
4) MK vs DC toned down characters and toned up characters. Superman was weak, and characters like the Joker was toned up.
" @Decoy Elite: Non Canon "Alright then, not that it would have matter even if it was cannon.
indeed" @Matezoide said:
" @comics kid: MK vs DC in non-cannon,every crossover is non-cannon "It might be cannon to MK (not sure) but the fights don't matter anyway because there's a huge plot devise that was weakening/strengthening everyone. "
heh...Joker defeated Sonya...who had beaten Captain Marvel and then Green Lantern...haha
@NickA said:
" @MKF30: We are talking about Current Scorpion the one who could kill Onaga "
no,the Current Scorpion who (as i proved) cant beat Onaga except in one non-cannon ending that doesnt prove anything for several reasons
"@comics kid said:"@NickA said:"@Matezoide:are you dumb? its you who doesnt know crap about the subject, scorpion never defeated onaga first of all it was a what if situation and second of all even if you want to make it canon the elder gods enhanced his powers and made him stronger in order to defeat onaga so scorpion without the elder gods help is still the scorpion that gets his shit beat up by sub zero and was raped by quan chi , drahmin and moloch "
Epic Fail
He was going easy on Quan Chi or Shang Tsung, He was trying to kill them before they resurrected the Dragon King's Army Raiden is weak in Outworld but even if they were in Earthrealm, Raiden still would have been defeated by the Dragon King who was night stoppable with the kamidogus. Scorpion was capable of defeating him and all his allies with ease, so that alone puts him above Raiden in terms of power. Obivously no one knows anything about Mortal Kombat "
Scorpion Fight History
He was defeated by Older Sub Zero when he was a human with no powers in MK Mythology
He was defeated again when he became Scorpion in MK Mythology
He killed Older Sub Zero in MK1
He defeated the Younger Sub Zero in MK4, who Raiden claimed was more powerful than his brother
Scorpion was defeated by Quan Chi, Quan Chi is the Arch Sorcerer of the Netherrealm and plus he had Shinnok's Amulet which increased his magic
Scorpion defeated Quan Chi pretty easily when they were in the Netherrealm and Quan Chi couldnt use his magic
Scorpion had trouble beating Moloch & Drahmin, but he was able to give them a good fight before going down
Here is some information on Moloch & Drahmin
Moloch
1O ft Tall & Weights 8,000 lbs (4 tons)
Moloch is large and extremely powerful. The orb that is chained to his arm is capable of dealing tremendous damage, and his Oni nature allows him to fight up close to his opponents. Another use for his orb is to create a shockwave by pounding the ground with it, as well as to send a fireball towards the opponent. He is also the only character to have three healing moves.
Beast Lord: Moloch charges at the opponent, knocking them down. (MK:DA, MK:A) Ground Bash: Moloch slams his orb on the ground, causing heavy damage. (MK:DA, MK:A) Suction Breath: Moloch creates a large gust of wind which pulls the opponent towards him, and if successful, the opponent bounces off Moloch's body and is left open for a juggle. (MK:DA, MK:A) Power Ball: Moloch strikes the ground with his orb and creates a projectile which strikes the opponent's legs. (MK:A) Super Charge: Moloch raises his arm into the air and roars. This heals some damage. (MK:A) Ragin' Oni: Moloch flails both his arms in the air wildly. This also heals damage. (MK:DA, MK:A) Furious Howl: Moloch emits a loud howl, which also heals damage. (MK:A)
Drahmin
6'5" Tall & Weights 270 lbs
Drahmin was not always a demon. Centuries ago, he was a cruel human warlord in Outworld. For his crimes, he was exiled to the Netherealm where his body and soul were to be tortured for all eternity. As the years dragged on, he fell further and further into insanity until his humanity was lost altogether. He eventually accepted his fate and submitted to the power of the Netherealm. He re-emerged from the Netherrealm depths as Drahmin: the Oni Tormentor.
His Iron Club, combined with his frequently unrestrained rage, makes Drahmin a deadly opponent. Many of his special moves revolve around his club, which deals heavy damage. Another of Drahmin's distinguishing features is the cloud of flies that constantly crowd his body, which he can also use as a makeshift projectile.
Ball-O-Flies: Drahmin gathers the flies around his body and throws them in the opponent's direction, damaging them. (MK:DA, MK:A) Propeller Clock: Drahmin swings his club like a clock, knocking the opponent face down. (MK:DA, MK:A) Super/Rising Uppercut: Drahmin uppercuts the opponent with his club. (MK:DA, MK:A) Ground Smash: Drahmin slams the ground with his club, creating a slight shockwave. (MK:DA, MK:A) "
Club Smash: Drahmin smashes the opponent's head to pieces, causing the headless body to wander around for a few seconds before Drahmin smashes the body to the ground. (MK:DA)
so basically scorpion only gets his ass handed to him by everybody Lol
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