Rai (Xiaolin Showdown) vs Jackie Chan (Jackie Chan Adventures)

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Raimundo is sent out by Master Fung to obtain the Shen Gong Wu known as the Shroud of Shadows from Jackie; unbeknownst to him who has it though. He sees that Jackie appears out of nowhere on top of a building while riding on Dojo. He approaches him and grabs the Wu and challenges Jackie to a Xiaolin Showdown. Of course Jackie is in awe at why the thing he's holding is glowing but accepts anyway. (for the sake of this, there is nothing being waged. they both just want the Wu).

Round 1

Located on the same open field that Grand Master Dashi and Wuya (I think) fought.

-H2H combat only

-Since Rai has his superhuman abilities such as; strength, speed, reflexes, agility and reflexes along with the Fancy Feet Wu. Jackie has the , Rooster and Rabbit talisman to compensate.

Round 2

Not a showdown, just an encounter

-Rai has the Cat's Eye Draco, Fancy Feet, Fist of Tebigong, and Eagle Scope Shen Gong Wu

-Jackie has the Dragon, Rooster, Rabbit, and Tiger talisman. (the good one has the dragon, but both share the rest).

-Located on a cargo ship

Round 3

-Rai has access only to the Heart of Jong Wu.

-Jackie has access to the Rooster and Rat talisman.

-Located in a huge mall. (random things can be used at their disposal).

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Link to Talisman abilities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Chan_Adventures#Magic_and_the_supernatural

Link to Shen Gong Wu abilities

http://xiaolinpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Shen_Gong_Wu

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#2  Edited By MethoKi

Awww, I have to do it already. :(

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#3  Edited By celtic

My heart says Jackie but my brain says Rai.

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#4  Edited By MethoKi

@celtic: Lol. elaborate.

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#5  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

Jackie stomps with talismans in round 1, totally unfair.

Still Jackie due to rabbit and dragon talismans. too fast, way more destructive power.

Round 3, meh, stalemate

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#6  Edited By MethoKi

@Ancient_0f_Days: I can't remember the exact power of the talisman. I know the Rabbit was like Flash speed or something. How were they exactly?

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#7  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: I can't remember the exact power of the talisman. I know the Rabbit was like Flash speed or something. How were they exactly?

Not at all around Flash Speed, maybe Jay Garrick.....Sound at best, although Jade did go back in time with it once due to PIS story telling, but they make Jackie definitely faster than what Rai can deal with especially along with the bull or dragon talisman's.

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#8  Edited By MethoKi

@Ancient_0f_Days: yea, I knew it wouldn't be on Wally's level, but I remember em bein darn quick with that. I'll give Rai the Fancy Feet then.

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#9  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: yea, I knew it wouldn't be on Wally's level, but I remember em bein darn quick with that. I'll give Rai the Fancy Feet then.

That makes speed less of an issue, good

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#10  Edited By MethoKi

@Ancient_0f_Days: The Cat's Eye Draco gives fire powers and the Fist of Teibong gives super strength.

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#11  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: The Cat's Eye Draco gives fire powers and the Fist of Teibong gives super strength.

Those are Clay and ....I think her name was Yumi? Their weapons? The "Fist of Tebigong" may even out the strength difference as well, but the CED isn't nearly as destructive as the Dragon Talisman...not at all.

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#12  Edited By MethoKi

@Ancient_0f_Days: Ha, Kimiko is her name. They just picked the Wu as their personal weapons. It wasn't really made for them. It just matched them and their elements perfectly..... but that's only based on my memory of the show.

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@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Ha, Kimiko is her name. They just picked the Wu as their personal weapons. It wasn't really made for them. It just matched them and their elements perfectly..... but that's only based on my memory of the show.

I know the rest of that, but her name threw me off, but anyway, yeah, Rai will need more destructive power on him to match the dragon talisman

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#14  Edited By PsychoJack

I think Raimundo would win

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#15  Edited By MethoKi

@PsychoJack: All rounds?

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@Batman242: Nice battle. People should put Xaolin Showdown and Jackie Chan in more battles.

R1: Jackie

R2: Jackie

R3: Not sure

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#17  Edited By MethoKi

@Ancient_0f_Days: Check it out now.

@UltimateHero0406: Thanks :) I changed it up a bit, check it out.

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#18  Edited By PsychoJack

@Batman242: Maybe. Idk, I haven't seen that Jackie Chan show for ages now and I know more about Raimundo's abilities than Jackie's supernatural weaponry so it might go either way but I think Raimundo wins. Hell, he does become the leader of the Shaolin monks so that proves he's skilled enough.

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#19  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Check it out now.

Jackie is more skilled in round 1, their speed is pretty much the same, I haven't seen too much from Rai to suggest he has much more strength than a peak human, Jackie has more experience fighting opponents who are physically stronger than him (Toru, that red haired guy, Shenlong etc). Rai's agility and reflexes keep him in the game, but skill and slightly better speed feats for the rabbit talisman is what gives Jack round 1 as well as his natural ability to narrowly avoid danger while chanting "bad day, bad day, bad day"

Round 2, Definitely Jackie, being able to clone himself with the tiger talisman will definitely give him an edge above his opponent, along with his other talismans which even out with Rai's Shen Gong Wu.

3, meh, I still don't know, stalemate

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#20  Edited By MethoKi

@Ancient_0f_Days: LOL. Remember though, Rai does have the wind on his side, I thought dumbing Rai down a little would make it fair, but dang, sounds like I need to give him all of his abilities and the Wu to boot.

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#21  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: LOL. Remember though, Rai does have the wind on his side, I thought dumbing Rai down a little would make it fair, but dang, sounds like I need to give him all of his abilities and the Wu to boot.

The wind manipulation is why his agility and reaction speed is able to keep up with Jackie to an extent and give him trouble, but it's pretty fair as it is, adding more Wu would make it unfair in the other direction, too much Wu would be overkill, y'know....Omi would be better since he's more skilled than Rai

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@Ancient_0f_Days: Hmmm, that's true. I honestly think when it comes to a H2H against the two, especially because of the fact that Jackie doesn't have anything random like a Trout to pick up and slap him with, Rai can take him. Did Rai ever fight Chase? Cause that guy was pretty outrageous. He'd be a good measure to see how good Rai is.

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@Batman242: Oh, good. it should be more fair now but I'm still giving it to Jackie. The rooster's flying power is greater than Rai's wind power. The rooster could fly the pig all over just by sitting on it's back and the rooster flew a house miles into the air so Jackie should have the slight advantage in flight.

And if I'm not mistaken, Chase soloed the 4.

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#24  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Hmmm, that's true. I honestly think when it comes to a H2H against the two, especially because of the fact that Jackie doesn't have anything random like a Trout to pick up and slap him with, Rai can take him. Did Rai ever fight Chase? Cause that guy was pretty outrageous. He'd be a good measure to see how good Rai is.

H2H, no Wu or Talismans, yeah Rai can take him cus hes superhuman, but skill wise, Jackie all day. Rai did fight Chase, but like most of the team he was taken down kinda easily, Omi was the only one to go head to head after he was turned into a cat and beat Chase.

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#25  Edited By MethoKi

@UltimateHero0406: There weren't any real feats to show how much he improved after he became a Shoku Warrior. I guess Xioalin Chronicles will show it. "

@Ancient_0f_Days: Did the Rabbit increase combat speed? I am seriously drawing a blank for everything in both the shows.

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#26  Edited By Vrakmul

All this Nostalgia...

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@Batman242: Hoping so. When does it come out btw?

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#28  Edited By MethoKi

@UltimateHero0406: Sometime in April.

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#29  Edited By Vrakmul

@Batman242 said:

@UltimateHero0406: Sometime in April.

They're making a sequel show? Let's see if it comes out in Sweden.

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#30  Edited By BlackWind

Rabbit talisman makes Jackie waaaaaaaaaaay too fast. Jade used it to go from California to Florida in a few minutes.

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#31  Edited By MethoKi

@BlackWind: Ugh. I should consider moving tht -.-

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@Batman242: Thanks.

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#33  Edited By zandor

@Batman242 said:

@BlackWind: Ugh. I should consider moving tht -.-

Jackie is just too lucky

He's like in the list of luckiest people in fiction

Jack Sparrow

Master Chief

Carter (Rush Hour)

ect,

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@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Did the Rabbit increase combat speed? I am seriously drawing a blank for everything in both the shows.

Yeah, I do remember some blitzing in the first episode it was used by jackie, he was able to dodge an attacker, disarm him and move jade out of the way at the same time as well as blitz 4 shadow warriors at the same time, but for the most part it's used for travel.

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#35  Edited By MethoKi

@Ancient_0f_Days: Like the other guy said, Jackie wins due to luck and the Rabbit talisman I guess.

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#36  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Like the other guy said, Jackie wins due to luck and the Rabbit talisman I guess.

Yeah, luck, skill, speed....basically can't beat it, it's why Wonder Woman wins most of her fights lol

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#37  Edited By zandor

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Like the other guy said, Jackie wins due to luck and the Rabbit talisman I guess.

Yeah, luck, skill, speed....basically can't beat it, it's why Wonder Woman wins most of her fights lol

wonder woman isn't lucky.

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#38  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

@zandor said:

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@Batman242 said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: Like the other guy said, Jackie wins due to luck and the Rabbit talisman I guess.

Yeah, luck, skill, speed....basically can't beat it, it's why Wonder Woman wins most of her fights lol

wonder woman isn't lucky.

She KO'd a bloodlusted flash, and Zoom.....can't get much luckier than that.

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#39  Edited By morgrim

Jackie has beaten demons in hand to hand I give him all rounds

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#40  Edited By NeonGameWave

Round 1: Jackie

Round 2: Jackie

Round 3: It could go either way but I`m leaning towards Rai

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#41  Edited By Vrakmul

@zandor said:

@Batman242 said:

@BlackWind: Ugh. I should consider moving tht -.-

Jackie is just too lucky

He's like in the list of luckiest people in fiction

Jack Sparrow

Master Chief

Carter (Rush Hour)

ect,

The Doctor has them all beat. His plot shields are a canon part of the setting. :P

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#42  Edited By zandor

@Vrakmul said:

@zandor said:

@Batman242 said:

@BlackWind: Ugh. I should consider moving tht -.-

Jackie is just too lucky

He's like in the list of luckiest people in fiction

Jack Sparrow

Master Chief

Carter (Rush Hour)

ect,

The Doctor has them all beat. His plot shields are a canon part of the setting. :P

lol I thought it was because he was a HAX unstoppable time lord that plans to look like he's defenseless but actually is not since it was apart of his 'plan'?

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Jackie vs a kid? Put Jade in this battle and it would be more fair, lol. Jackie drop kicks him but up into his mother

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#44  Edited By MethoKi

@Ancient_0f_Days: Wonder Woman has true skill, brah.

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I'm bumping this because I think Raimundo is awesome. For those of you who think Raimundo can't compete with Jackie, here are some of Raimundo's feats while in what I consider his trump card for this battle: his Wudai Orion Form (this the state in which he turns blue and black.)

I think it's obvious that Raimundo has a better shot at winning this battle than some people might think. He is a certified superhuman, and being in Wudai Orion Form amplifies his long range attacks, like Wudai Star Wind. I'm sure he can use Typhoon Boom too. I really do think Wudai Orion Rai has to be used for this match to be fair.

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#46  Edited By MethoKi

Bump

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#47  Edited By MethoKi

FORCE bump