Raggador and Ikonn vs Arioch and Ghaszaszh Nyirh

#1 Edited by Shuma-Gorath (425 posts) - 3 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

 
I have placed a wager of 5 dimenions with Cyttorak that my two powerful underlings, Arioch and Ghaszaszh Nyirh, will defeat two of his trusted cohorts, Raggador and Ikonn. The battle shall take place in Paris, France, near the Eiffel Tower, as we both wish to see the French in despair. Which duo shall emerge victorious?  
 
 

 Arioch

 
 Ghaszaszh Nyirh

 
Raggadorr
 
Ikonn
#2 Posted by Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe (283 posts) - 3 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Team Chaos.

#3 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 3 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Raggaddor and Ikonn with ease.

The Gorath spawns would need some major PIS to pull off a win by negotiation.

#4 Posted by Setherial (161 posts) - 3 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio
Arioch solos.
#5 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 3 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Arioch might solo if he were facing Galactus and Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet; But he is NOT soloing this fight.

#6 Posted by Setherial (161 posts) - 3 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Arioch might solo if he were facing Galactus and Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet; But he is NOT soloing this fight.

 
He's absolutely soloing this fight. The proof is in the comics themselves.
#7 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 3 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@Setherial said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Arioch might solo if he were facing Galactus and Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet; But he is NOT soloing this fight.


He's absolutely soloing this fight. The proof is in the comics themselves.

Then read them better because he is absolutely not winning this fight....

Here's a question. Can Arioch beat Shuma-Gorath? Maybe that will help you scope where this battle truly rests.

#8 Edited by Setherial (161 posts) - 3 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Setherial said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Arioch might solo if he were facing Galactus and Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet; But he is NOT soloing this fight.


He's absolutely soloing this fight. The proof is in the comics themselves.

Then read them better because he is absolutely not winning this fight....

Here's a question. Can Arioch beat Shuma-Gorath? Maybe that will help you scope where this battle truly rests.

 
Of course Arioch cannot defeat Shuma-Gorath, otherwise he wouldn't be his servant. But that has nothing to do with anything. Kaluu spent over five centuries trapped inside Raggador's dimension learning various magic spells and he returned to Earth more powerful than ever before. He later couldn't even make it to Arioch's realm because the energy was too powerful in the realm before it .
 
Raggador's dimension = Kaluu is ay-okay. 
 
Arioch's realm = Kaluu dies in seconds.
#9 Posted by Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe (283 posts) - 3 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Setherial said:

Arioch solos.

agreed.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Arioch might solo if he were facing Galactus and Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet...

And all your credibility is lost.

#10 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 3 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe said:

@Setherial said:

Arioch solos.

agreed.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Arioch might solo if he were facing Galactus and Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet...

And all your credibility is lost.

Judging too soon are we? The Infinity Gauntlet can't affect extra-dimensional beings.

#11 Posted by Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe (283 posts) - 3 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe said:

@Setherial said:

Arioch solos.

agreed.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Arioch might solo if he were facing Galactus and Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet...

And all your credibility is lost.

Judging too soon are we? The Infinity Gauntlet can't affect extra-dimensional beings.

Actually it can. The effects of the Infinity Gauntlet destroyed Cyttorak's Crimson Cosmos. And since Cyttorak is apparently the cosmos itself, Cyttorak was destroyed by the power of the IG.

#12 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 3 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe said:

@Setherial said:

Arioch solos.

agreed.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Arioch might solo if he were facing Galactus and Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet...

And all your credibility is lost.

Judging too soon are we? The Infinity Gauntlet can't affect extra-dimensional beings.

Actually it can. The effects of the Infinity Gauntlet destroyed Cyttorak's Crimson Cosmos. And since Cyttorak is apparently the cosmos itself, Cyttorak was destroyed by the power of the IG.

Nope.

That was Cain's mind.

Explain how the entire event of the War of the Seven Sphere were not affected while happening at the same time of the entire Infinity Saga.

The Infinity Saga (War, Crusade, Watch, Saga etc) all happened with a span of a few years. The Seven Sphere War overlapped it by a few millenia.

Explain that.

#13 Edited by Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe (283 posts) - 3 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Zorn_a_Rust_Red_Scythe said:

@Setherial said:

Arioch solos.

agreed.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Arioch might solo if he were facing Galactus and Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet...

And all your credibility is lost.

Judging too soon are we? The Infinity Gauntlet can't affect extra-dimensional beings.

Actually it can. The effects of the Infinity Gauntlet destroyed Cyttorak's Crimson Cosmos. And since Cyttorak is apparently the cosmos itself, Cyttorak was destroyed by the power of the IG.

Nope.

That was Cain's mind.

Explain how the entire event of the War of the Seven Sphere were not affected while happening at the same time of the entire Infinity Saga.

The Infinity Saga (War, Crusade, Watch, Saga etc) all happened with a span of a few years. The Seven Sphere War overlapped it by a few millenia.

Explain that.

Nowhere does it say that it was Cain Marko's mind. It clearly says reality ends in a world between worlds aka a pocket realm aka Cyttorak's Crimson Cosmos. Take it up with Marvel if you have an issue. On panel we have the Crimson Cosmos getting shattered by a backlash of energy from the Infinity Gauntlet.

#14 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 3 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio
  • Where was the power of the IG when Shuma-Gorath was devouring a few hundred thousand universes within the Multiverse?
  • Where was the power of the IG when Cyttorak cameoed in the event (Infinity War) stating that he is pre-occupied with his cosmos and the rest of the event of the Seven Spheres. Which was BTW, overlapping the Infinity Sagas by a few thousand eras.
  • Why wasn't Dr. Strange really that worried when he was multitasking his efforts from jumping to Seven Sphere War to Infinity Saga (War, Watch, Crusade, etc...)?
  • During Infinity Crusade, why was Dormammu not concerned over the IG when he was rather more occupied with The Goddess and over taking of Eternty?
  • During Infinity War, why did Slorioth not care about the power of the IG when he invaded Eternity? Why did the Living Tribunal rather make 1st priority to push Slorioth out of the Multiverse before the Thanos with the IG?
  • Zom also taking place at the same time (because Dr. Strange comics overlaps with all time lines and realities) during the Infinity Saga. Living Tribunal made it 1st priority to banish Zom before the IG.
  • Nightmare, put the entire multiverse to sleep (including Thanos) which allowed him to capture Eternity. Why wasn't Dr. Strange or the Living Tribunal concerned about the IG over this?
  • Oblivion. Confirms that when reality throughout the multiverse is no more and forgotten, it is belonging to him. Thanos and Warlock also confirms this when talking about it during "THE END", After Thanos uses the HOTU to absorb all things (known to him) into Oblivion. Warlock was in the Extra-Dimension and was not affected. He was along with Dr. Strange was participating the Seven Sphere War.
  • Mikaboshi, the agent of Oblivion... Wipes out 97% of the multiverse.... The Seven Sphere War was still taking place in the extra-dimension.
  • The Infinity Gems can be over ruled by a concept.... The extra-dimension can not.... Save for Beyonder.
  • Beyonder is an extra-dimensional being.
  • Beyonder is above abstracts and therefore above the IG which can be over rulled by abstracts or the concept of an idea.
  • Beyonder is so powerful that he can retcon himself.... He did it 4 times already. Thanos acknowedges this and tries to make him remember.
  • D'Spayre uses a fraction (namely about 12%) of the Crimson Gem to control the very Fabrics of Space, Time, Reality, Soul and Power... Where was the power of the IG during this time?
  • When Strange became one with the multiverse and became the Only Dr. Strange in existence, why did the Living Tribunal deem Strange so powerful that the Living Tribunal had to prep with In-Betweener to banish Strange? Why be more concerned over Strange than the Infinity Gauntlet?
  • Why did Dr. Strange create clones of himself and spread them through the multiverse with each having different power sets to make the Living Tribunal happy?
  • Why is Dormammu's only concern between him and Eternity, Dr. Strange and not the Infinity Gems or Living Tribunal?
  • How is it possible for Agamotto to see every possibility of the Infinity Gems, but not the other way around?
  • When the Watcher watches one universe at a time, Agamotto watches the entire race of Watchers doing the watching.... How is it possible?
  • Why was Agamotto not concerned about the Infinity Gauntlet and stating that the Infinity Sagas were a "bore" to him that he rather have Dr. Strange keep him company than allowing Dr. Strange to help conclude the Infinity War?

See? There are alot of inconsistencies of people's oppinions viewing non-consistent writers of these facts about the true power of the IG incomparison to the 50 year consistency of the Extradimensional planes.

The IG only affects the multiverse.... Not the Omniverse.

#15 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 3 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

New writers these days can't even write a story abuot the Seven Spheres because they don't even know what it is... They don't even remember that Stan and the 1st 3 generation of writers had writen a hidden history of a reality before Eternity was ever born.

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