Ragdoll (DC) Vs Toad

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#1  Edited By daak1212

Toad still has his mutant powers 
 
Indoor parking garage no weapons for Ragdoll. 
 
10 feet apart.
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#2  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Interesting.  Location? Starting distance?  Does Ragdoll have knives or unarmed?
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#3  Edited By Power NeXus

Toad

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#4  Edited By daak1212
@k4tzm4n said:
"Interesting.  Location? Starting distance?  Does Ragdoll have knives or unarmed? "

Location is in a parking lot.  Starting distance is 10 yards from each other.  Ragdoll is unarmed
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#5  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@daak1212:
Sorry for being annoying, but is it an outdoor an indoor parking lot? I know it seems silly, but it is a big factor.
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#6  Edited By daak1212
@k4tzm4n said:
"@daak1212: Sorry for being annoying, but is it an outdoor an indoor parking lot? I know it seems silly, but it is a big factor. "

How so?  Depending on your answer Ill make it that.  I want this to be even as it can.
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#7  Edited By OldIdiotAccount
@Power NeXus said:
" Toad "
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#8  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@daak1212:
Well, indoors restricts Toad's significant agility advantage, however IMHO that makes matters more even.  Outside, Toad has far more room to leap around and manipulate the battle.
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#9  Edited By daak1212
@k4tzm4n said:
"@daak1212: Well, indoors restricts Toad's significant agility advantage, however IMHO that makes matters more even.  Outside, Toad has far more room to leap around and manipulate the battle. "

Would Toad indoors also give him the ability to jump from wall to wall like a bullet?  Like in Kung Fu hustle where he will just rebound and lunch him self off each wall something to the effect of a rubber ball.
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#10  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@daak1212:
LOL.  He could attempt such a tactic, but dropping Ragdoll with blunt force trauma will be very difficult.  Ragdoll really just needs to get a hold of Toad and he has the potential to win.
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#11  Edited By daak1212
@k4tzm4n said:
"@daak1212:
LOL.  He could attempt such a tactic, but dropping Ragdoll with blunt force trauma will be very difficult.  Ragdoll really just needs to get a hold of Toad and he has the potential to win. "

I guess what you say is true. It shall be indoors
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#12  Edited By Power NeXus

If Ragdoll is unarmed, I don't see how he would be able to hurt Toad at all.

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#13  Edited By spideybat

toad. i mean what is ragdoll gonna do
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#14  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Power NeXus:
Ragdoll has had no issue with constricting physically superior (both strength and durability-wise) foes before.  He's an extremely unorthadox fighter who utilizies his abilities to obtain victory however possible.  One time, a man was sent to kill Ragdoll in a restaurant.  The man beats the crap out of Radoll, pummeling him and throwing him all around.  Ragdoll essentially mocks the man, saying how he can't kill him, and wins by thrusting his entire arm down the man's mouth and throat.  He then reveals he's holding silverwear in the hand, and drops it in him.  LOL 
 
I think the match has the potential to go either way, but I think Ragdoll's extremely immunity to physical damage could allow him to overcome Toad's superior strength, agility, and speed.  Because, IMHO, Ragdoll just merely needs to grab a hold of Toad (be it a wrist or even ankle) and from there could wrap himself around Toad's torso, or any other region.  Then again, if Toad plays it 100% smart and refuses to close the distance (projectile use, whipping around with tongue), then I think eventually he can dish out the damage.  But with morals, I have to assume after doing some damage, Toad would get in close to attempt strikes and that's where Ragdoll can capitalize. 
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#15  Edited By daak1212

Ragdoll has foguht many stronger opponents in the past and won.  Hell in Secret Six 23 he beat someone in a power suit that bitch smacked a helicopter away
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#16  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
   @Power NeXus:
@spideybat:
@daak1212:
I just made scans of the scene daak was talking about.   As you can see, this only supports me saying he's an unorthadox combatant who does whatever he can to win.
 

 
 


 
 


 
 

 
 


 
 
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#17  Edited By Strafe Prower
@k4tzm4n:
Ragdoll is a freaking beast.
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#18  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Strafe Prower:
Indeed.  I made a few more scans. 
 

 
 


 
 


Directly after being run over by a car.
Directly after being run over by a car.
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#19  Edited By Strafe Prower
@k4tzm4n:
When they are fighting the randomly colored theifs and disscussing who is more like batman, I seem to remember Ragdoll wrapping around a dude and snapping his spine. Do you recall?
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#20  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Strafe Prower:
Not off the top of my head, but he's crushed/crippled plenty of generic thugs in his time.
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#21  Edited By Zoom

Toad still wins.  His tongue gives him greater range for strangulation and even though Ragdoll is pretty damn resistant to blunt force (seeing as most of his bones are already broken), if Toad kicks him in the head, he's done.
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#22  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Zoom: 
I believe the key word is "if" in your final sentence ;) 
 
Keep in mind, the match is in an indoor parking lot, which limits Toad's large agility edge (due to lowered ceiling, multiple cars, narrower roadways).  I can still see this going either way. 
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#23  Edited By collector

ragdoll win
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#24  Edited By Strafe Prower
@k4tzm4n:

Well I'm almost certin of it. Its near the part where Bane says "I think I broke it" talking about the baby LOL
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#25  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Strafe Prower:
LOL. Good issue.
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#26  Edited By Power NeXus

I guess it just depends on what strategy Toad uses. Getting in close could and probably would be death for him, but I can see him winning if he decides to utilize his tongue or slime spit.

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#27  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Power NeXus said:
"I guess it just depends on what strategy Toad uses. Getting in close could and probably would be death for him, but I can see him winning if he decides to utilize his tongue or slime spit. "

I agree for the most part.  However, the slime spit didn't seem all that effective (when used agains Wolverine) and was more-so a temporary distraction.  But based on regular morals, I see it being slightly more likely for toad to close the gap, especially since he's proven to favor kicks in combat.
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#28  Edited By Achilles.

from those scans i go with ragdoll

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#29  Edited By daak1212

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#30  Edited By Wild_cat21

I dunno. Pretty hard one. Probably Ragdoll. I find it difficult to see for Toad to hurt/damage Ragdoll to a degree that can be called a victory before Ragdoll clings on and rips him apart.

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#31  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@wildcat:
Sorta like this? lol
 
 


 
 
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#32  Edited By Wild_cat21
@k4tzm4n: Holy!!! Ragdoll is sick! And if Toad is not careful, he could end up in your little scans. XD
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#33  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@wildcat:

 
 
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#34  Edited By Wild_cat21
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Geez! That's some creepy crap! You just painted a permanent picture in my mind K4, thanks a lot >_>

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#35  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@wildcat:
Welcome!
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#36  Edited By Zoom

Ragdoll could never beat Count Vertigo if he wasn't too busy kicking Black Alice's butt to pay attention to Doll.
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#37  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Zoom:
It wasn't really to show who he has taken on, but instead what he's capable of.
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#38  Edited By Zoom

Well yeah, I'm just saying.
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#39  Edited By Chaos Prime

This would be one hell of a battle regardless of the scenario..
But i still feel Toad has the edge even if Ragdoll did get the bear-hug on him due to his tongue..

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#40  Edited By Power NeXus
@Chaos Prime said:
" This would be one hell of a battle regardless of the scenario.. But i still feel Toad has the edge even if Ragdoll did get the bear-hug on him due to his tongue.. "
It could very well be a contest of who can strangle/crush the other one first. Ragdoll wrapped around Toad's body, and Toad's tongue wrapped around Ragdoll's body. 
That's creating WAY more physical contact than any straight guys should ever have, even if they are trying to kill each other...
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#41  Edited By Strafe Prower
@Chaos Prime: I disagree. If Ragdoll gets the wrap on Toad, it should be over. 
 

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He has many ways to kill someone once gets the position, as we have shown in the thread.
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#42  Edited By Chaos Prime

@Strafe Prower.. Just feel Toad would be able to wrap his tongue around Ragdolls head even if he did get the bear-hug on him...

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#43  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Chaos Prime:
Personally, I think the OP decreases Toad's chances of doing so. There's also the fact his combat method tends to prefer using his agility for close combat strikes.
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#44  Edited By Power NeXus
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Chaos Prime: Personally, I think the OP decreases Toad's chances of doing so. There's also the fact his combat method tends to prefer using his agility for close combat strikes. "
But close combat strikes wouldn't really be an option anymore if Radgoll is already wrapped around him. 
And why does the OP decrease Toad's chances of using his tongue?
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#45  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Power NeXus:
A confined environment with ample cover.
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#46  Edited By daak1212
@k4tzm4n said:
"@Power NeXus: A confined environment with ample cover. "

He could still flick his tongue at Ragdoll
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#47  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@daak1212:
Of course he could.  My point is the environment and starting distance should increase Ragdoll's chances of dodging, though.
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#48  Edited By daak1212

Umm....because I have a keyboard bump
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#49  Edited By Hyperlight

toad should win but he may not play it smart

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#50  Edited By sa5m
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he lost them?/