Raditz vs Bleach Universe

Can Raditz win?  
 
 
Fight takes place in a random Desert. 

I don't know much about Bleach, but Raditz is still, pretty powerful. I'm gonna go with Raditz, unless someone proofs me wrong.

Raditz Dies

Radits is FTL. Radits wins by default.

@CadenceV2: Soul Reapers are invisible. Raditz Dies.

@No_Trolling: Too bad Raditz has a Scouter to pick them up.

@CadenceV2: Since when could Scouters find where spirits are?

Raditz can be FTL all he wants once he gets near Head Captain Commander he'll be reduced to ashes

@CadenceV2 said:

@No_Trolling: Too bad Raditz has a Scouter to pick them up.

Scouters won't work.

Raditz is FTL and is a Giant Moon buster.

He flies up and rains hell upon everybody.

Can anyone prove that they could catch Raditz, survive his physical and destructive power, and even manage to scratch Raditz?

@CerberusPrime3k: @Chronus: Do Bleach Characters put out energy? then they can be read by scouters. Anything with Energy is Scout readable. Period. No Arguing that.

@XImpossibruX said:

Raditz is FTL and is a Giant Moon buster.

He flies up and rains hell upon everybody.

Can anyone prove that they could catch Raditz, survive his physical and destructive power, and even manage to scratch Raditz?

This too.

@CadenceV2: It doesn't work both ways for different Animes the Scouter will be absolutely useless here

@CadenceV2 said:

@CerberusPrime3k: @Chronus: Do Bleach Characters put out energy? then they can be read by scouters. Anything with Energy is Scout readable. Period. No Arguing that.

I never thought of that. Well done.

Raditz will destroy the Bleach universe.

"Be water my friend"

@CerberusPrime3k: Oh really? then I guess Bleach Characters cant use powers against Dragonball Z cause It doesn't work both ways for different Animes the Bleach Powers will be absolutely useless here.

How your logic suit you now?

Scouters read energy. I have energy, you have energy, the Bleach Guys have ALOT of energy. To say they're immune to Energy readings is like saying they're immune to a punch in the face. SRY but no.

@CadenceV2: The "Bleach Guys minus Chad,Orihime,Isshida" aren't Biological they are spirits they're not on the Physical plane but they can enter it unless you have proof the a scouter can detect the energy of a spiritual beings until then it is absolutely useless here

"Shinigami are unearthly beings living in a world ruled by a different logic than the World of the Living."

@CerberusPrime3k: Ki and Spirit are the same things in DBZ. Sooo.........

Raditz solos the Bleach Universe for sh*ts and giggles.

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!

Kenpachi

Byakuka

Uryu

Renji

Any One Of These Guy Could Kill Raditz Is A Second

@CadenceV2: Ki and Spirits aren't the same

Ki is also known as "latent energy" or "fighting power." The term is the Japanese romanization of the Chinese term "Chi" (氣), which directly translates as "life force." This force is a tangible energy inside every living being<----see that right there?, its major focus being in the center of the body. By drawing it out, a person is able to manipulate it and use it for performances outside the body. Ki can be used for many different techniques. Usually, the more concentrated the masses are, the more time the user requires to draw it out (to "power up"). When a fighter gathers ki, he is able to gain enhanced strength, speed, endurance, and can increase the power of their attacks to inflict greater damage to opponents.

According to Akira Toriyama, ki is made up of three components: Genki (元気; lit. "Energy"), Yūki (勇気; lit. "Courage") and Shōki (正気; lit. "Mind"). It can also be "positive" or "negative", depending on the user.

Shinigami (死神, "death god(s)"; Viz "Soul Reaper(s)") are guardians of the souls who are going through the circle of transmigration. Namely, they are "balancers." They exterminate Hollows who did evil in the World of the living; they ensure the safe crossing of souls - the Pluses who have lost their way after death - by giving them a soul funeral.

Shinigami are unearthly beings living in a world ruled by a different logic than the World of the Living.

Has anyone actually seen bleach? He isn't near as fast as top tier soul reapers or has the destructive power.

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@CadenceV2: Ki and Spirits aren't the same

Ki is also known as "latent energy" or "fighting power." The term is the Japanese romanization of the Chinese term "Chi" (氣), which directly translates as "life force." This force is a tangible energy inside every living being<----see that right there?, its major focus being in the center of the body. By drawing it out, a person is able to manipulate it and use it for performances outside the body. Ki can be used for many different techniques. Usually, the more concentrated the masses are, the more time the user requires to draw it out (to "power up"). When a fighter gathers ki, he is able to gain enhanced strength, speed, endurance, and can increase the power of their attacks to inflict greater damage to opponents.

According to Akira Toriyama, ki is made up of three components: Genki (元気; lit. "Energy"), Yūki (勇気; lit. "Courage") and Shōki (正気; lit. "Mind"). It can also be "positive" or "negative", depending on the user.

Shinigami (死神, "death god(s)"; Viz "Soul Reaper(s)") are guardians of the souls who are going through the circle of transmigration. Namely, they are "balancers." They exterminate Hollows who did evil in the World of the living; they ensure the safe crossing of souls - the Pluses who have lost their way after death - by giving them a soul funeral.

Shinigami are unearthly beings living in a world ruled by a different logic than the World of the Living.

Its funny cause your wrong.

When Goku died he came back to earth as basicaly a Solid Spirit a few times. He was able to draw on more energy and use Ki more effective. others still were able to detect his Energy Levels even tho he was dead and a Spirit. Same for a Spirit Vegeta vs Super Buu.

So as proven Spirits in DBZ universe not only were detected by energy levels but were also able to use Ki more effectivly.

You can post all the definaitions you want dont change the fact it happen that way.

@CadenceV2 said:

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@CadenceV2: Ki and Spirits aren't the same

Ki is also known as "latent energy" or "fighting power." The term is the Japanese romanization of the Chinese term "Chi" (氣), which directly translates as "life force." This force is a tangible energy inside every living being<----see that right there?, its major focus being in the center of the body. By drawing it out, a person is able to manipulate it and use it for performances outside the body. Ki can be used for many different techniques. Usually, the more concentrated the masses are, the more time the user requires to draw it out (to "power up"). When a fighter gathers ki, he is able to gain enhanced strength, speed, endurance, and can increase the power of their attacks to inflict greater damage to opponents.

According to Akira Toriyama, ki is made up of three components: Genki (元気; lit. "Energy"), Yūki (勇気; lit. "Courage") and Shōki (正気; lit. "Mind"). It can also be "positive" or "negative", depending on the user.

Shinigami (死神, "death god(s)"; Viz "Soul Reaper(s)") are guardians of the souls who are going through the circle of transmigration. Namely, they are "balancers." They exterminate Hollows who did evil in the World of the living; they ensure the safe crossing of souls - the Pluses who have lost their way after death - by giving them a soul funeral.

Shinigami are unearthly beings living in a world ruled by a different logic than the World of the Living.

Its funny cause your wrong.

When Goku died he came back to earth as basicaly a Solid Spirit a few times. He was able to draw on more energy and use Ki more effective. others still were able to detect his Energy Levels even tho he was dead and a Spirit. Same for a Spirit Vegeta vs Super Buu.

So as proven Spirits in DBZ universe not only were detected by energy levels but were also able to use Ki more effectivly.

You can post all the definaitions you want dont change the fact it happen that way.

Like he's going to fight every single invisible soul reaper in Bleach. With only scouter readings gtfo of here. He's going to get owned by the top tier guys.

@CadenceV2: That's Goku entering the Physical plane where his presence can be felt. Shinigami can enter/leave the physical/spiritual plane when ever they please but they're always on a the spiritual plane Raditz will not see or sense them unless stated otherwise.

It's similar to when Aizen enters the real karakura town he was in the Physical plane his presence could be felt by others and those unfortunate seamlessly disappeared because of his intense spiritual pressure.

All that proves is that once the said spirit enters the physical plane they're energy or what have you can be felt nothing more nothing less

Keep your eye on the birdie !

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@CadenceV2: That's Goku entering the Physical plane where his presence can be felt. Shinigami can enter/leave the physical/spiritual plane when ever they please but they're always on a the spiritual plane Raditz will not see or sense them unless stated otherwise.

It's similar to when Aizen enters the real karakura town he was in the Physical plane his presence could be felt by others and those unfortunate seamlessly disappeared because of his intense spiritual pressure.

All that proves is that once the said spirit enters the physical plane they're energy or what have you can be felt nothing more nothing less

Well I wont argue that. But FTL is still a problem of hitting him.

@No_Trolling: Like the Invisible Soul Reapers he cant read will tag him as hes FTL.

I love how Raditz is FTL, a large moon buster... and he's still one of the weaker characters in DBZ. That series is ridiculous (the best of ridiculous. The kind that its hard not to love)

Anyway... I don't see Raditz defeating the entire Bleach universe... he'll definitely kill a lot of them, but I don't think he would be able to take everyone out. Granted I know very little about Bleach.

Only a Bleach fanboy would say otherwise. Raditz causally solo's their verse barely breaking a sweat.

@No_Trolling: No trolling? But your Trolling right now....

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Only a Bleach fanboy would say otherwise. Raditz causally solo's their verse barely breaking a sweat.

Not casually, but he pulls the job off.

He nukes the map out of rage.

GG

LOL @ this!

Raditz won't do anything but get stomped here. Aizen alone would kill him.

This is why I love anime/manga threads.

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Only a Bleach fanboy would say otherwise. Raditz causally solo's their verse barely breaking a sweat.

Youre the only fanboy here. Aizen, Tousen, Captain Yama, Jashiro, Captain Koruyaku, Mayuri, Baragan can all beat raditz. Tousen's zanpaktou has the abilty to take away all a persons senses and engulf them in complete darkness

@XImpossibruX said:

@No_Trolling: No trolling? But your Trolling right now....

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Only a Bleach fanboy would say otherwise. Raditz causally solo's their verse barely breaking a sweat.

Not casually, but he pulls the job off.

Are you going to tell me i'm trolling or are you going to strike up a debate.

@CadenceV2 said:

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@CadenceV2: That's Goku entering the Physical plane where his presence can be felt. Shinigami can enter/leave the physical/spiritual plane when ever they please but they're always on a the spiritual plane Raditz will not see or sense them unless stated otherwise.

It's similar to when Aizen enters the real karakura town he was in the Physical plane his presence could be felt by others and those unfortunate seamlessly disappeared because of his intense spiritual pressure.

All that proves is that once the said spirit enters the physical plane they're energy or what have you can be felt nothing more nothing less

Well I wont argue that. But FTL is still a problem of hitting him.

@No_Trolling: Like the Invisible Soul Reapers he cant read will tag him as hes FTL.

Please back this up with some evidence.

Bleach Universe.

Can someone give me a logical explanation how Bleachverse is suppose to take someone, Who can throw out Giant Moon busters casually, punches can hurt Dragon Ball Goku and Piccolo (Who are durable enough to survive nukes), and move at FTL speeds?

BU.

@No_Trolling said:

@XImpossibruX said:

@No_Trolling: No trolling? But your Trolling right now....

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Only a Bleach fanboy would say otherwise. Raditz causally solo's their verse barely breaking a sweat.

Not casually, but he pulls the job off.

Are you going to tell me i'm trolling or are you going to strike up a debate.

@CadenceV2 said:

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@CadenceV2: That's Goku entering the Physical plane where his presence can be felt. Shinigami can enter/leave the physical/spiritual plane when ever they please but they're always on a the spiritual plane Raditz will not see or sense them unless stated otherwise.

It's similar to when Aizen enters the real karakura town he was in the Physical plane his presence could be felt by others and those unfortunate seamlessly disappeared because of his intense spiritual pressure.

All that proves is that once the said spirit enters the physical plane they're energy or what have you can be felt nothing more nothing less

Well I wont argue that. But FTL is still a problem of hitting him.

@No_Trolling: Like the Invisible Soul Reapers he cant read will tag him as hes FTL.

Please back this up with some evidence.

Piccolo's special beam cannon is light speed

Raditz dodged it while being held down.Before you tell me to back THAT up with evidence Piccolos beam reached the moon at around the same time a beam of light would.

@FourthDeity said:

Piccolo's special beam cannon is light speed

Raditz dodged it while being held down.Before you tell me to back THAT up with evidence Piccolos beam reached the moon at around the same time a beam of light would.

Alright i'll concede on that but Raditz will be face thousands of invisible opponents who should be at least super sonic in speed that have unique special abilities. How does he get past Aizen's shikai, total hypnosis? It will put him in an illusion and he won't ever even know he's in.

@No_Trolling said:

@FourthDeity said:

Piccolo's special beam cannon is light speed

Raditz dodged it while being held down.Before you tell me to back THAT up with evidence Piccolos beam reached the moon at around the same time a beam of light would.

Alright i'll concede on that but Raditz will be face thousands of invisible opponents who should be at least super sonic in speed that have unique special abilities. How does he get past Aizen's shikai, total hypnosis? It will put him in an illusion and he won't ever even know he's in.

That's the thing. he could be overwhelmed IMO. He could always just keep moving and throw casual Ki blasts that are easily on par with the damage anyone in Bleach could dish out but then again he still has to deal with illusions,People fucking with his senses etc etc. If the entire universe came at him 1v1 they'd all get struck down before they could react but that isn't the case here

Then again no one would be able to even sense him if he starts to blitz with even High Hypersonic speeds.

@FourthDeity said:

@No_Trolling said:

@FourthDeity said:

Piccolo's special beam cannon is light speed

Raditz dodged it while being held down.Before you tell me to back THAT up with evidence Piccolos beam reached the moon at around the same time a beam of light would.

Alright i'll concede on that but Raditz will be face thousands of invisible opponents who should be at least super sonic in speed that have unique special abilities. How does he get past Aizen's shikai, total hypnosis? It will put him in an illusion and he won't ever even know he's in.

That's the thing He'd be overwhelmed IMO. He could always just keep moving and throw casual Ki blasts that are easily on par with the damage anyone in Bleach could dish out but then again he still has to deal with illusions,People fucking with his senses etc etc. If the entire universe came at him 1v1 they'd all get struck down before they could react.

Then again no one would be able to even sense him if he starts to blitz with even High Hypersonic speeds.

True but in a morals on in counter his arrogance would probably get in the way of recognizing that there are actual threats to him in the vicinity. Would he even think to fight things he can't see or would he just think his scouters gone buggy. Meh i kind of need more OP info before coming to a decision.

@No_Trolling said:

@FourthDeity said:

@No_Trolling said:

@FourthDeity said:

Piccolo's special beam cannon is light speed

Raditz dodged it while being held down.Before you tell me to back THAT up with evidence Piccolos beam reached the moon at around the same time a beam of light would.

Alright i'll concede on that but Raditz will be face thousands of invisible opponents who should be at least super sonic in speed that have unique special abilities. How does he get past Aizen's shikai, total hypnosis? It will put him in an illusion and he won't ever even know he's in.

That's the thing He'd be overwhelmed IMO. He could always just keep moving and throw casual Ki blasts that are easily on par with the damage anyone in Bleach could dish out but then again he still has to deal with illusions,People fucking with his senses etc etc. If the entire universe came at him 1v1 they'd all get struck down before they could react.

Then again no one would be able to even sense him if he starts to blitz with even High Hypersonic speeds.

True but in a morals on in counter his arrogance would probably get in the way of recognizing that there are actual threats to him in the vicinity. Would he even think to fight things he can't see or would he just think his scouters gone buggy. Meh i kind of need more OP info before coming to a decision.

That's true.Raditz would probably ignore it and get himself killed.If he had actual senses like Goku or Vegeta he'd stand a MUCH better chance at this but considering he's relying on a device to see his threats rather than his own head I say if someone cuts it or damages it it's pretty much GG.It'd take a while but I think BU could EVENTUALLY wear him down if they suppress him long enough to the point where he couldn't nuke the map out of fear/Rage

Can Bleach characters fly? How far does the powers of Bleach characters reach? Why could't Raditz the moment the battle starts use his speed witch is greater than that of Bleach (so i've heard) and fly high up in Earth's atmosphere like really high and just starts spamming shit and if he gets tired he just floats there and wait for his energy to recover.. Piccolo at an PL of around 300 could moonbust and Raditz is what 1200 - 1500 or something?

@FourthDeity said:

Piccolo's special beam cannon is light speed

Raditz dodged it while being held down.Before you tell me to back THAT up with evidence Piccolos beam reached the moon at around the same time a beam of light would.

Just to play the devil's advocate, what makes you think DBZ Earth has the same relative position to its moon as our planet does to our moon? After all, a ladder connects DBZ Earth to the moon.

@Erik said:

@FourthDeity said:

Piccolo's special beam cannon is light speed

Raditz dodged it while being held down.Before you tell me to back THAT up with evidence Piccolos beam reached the moon at around the same time a beam of light would.

Just to play the devil's advocate, what makes you think DBZ Earth has the same relative position to its moon as our planet does to our moon? After all, a ladder connects DBZ Earth to the moon.

What seriously? I'm reading the manga can you tell me what chapter or episode?

And I believe that it's the same distance because Bulma traveled to Jupiter with Popo and gave the distance of which they were going. So the solar system in which earth is the same.

@No_Trolling said:

@CadenceV2: Soul Reapers are invisible. Raditz Dies.

Goku was dead more than once and people wo were alive could see him...Why do people always feel like they can say crap like this when Bleach is involved. The OP obviously made the battle with the intention of Bleach characters being seen. Cut the bs. The Fastest character in Bleach is Ichigo and the last time his speed was stated was in his fight with Gin, which was 500x+ the speed of sound. He would still need to be 1800x faster to be able to moderately Keep up with Raditz. And if Ichigo can't do it, no way in hell anyone else can. Raditz wins on Speed alone.

@The_Gravix said:

Has anyone actually seen bleach? He isn't near as fast as top tier soul reapers or has the destructive power.

Raditz was Faster than Light, Ichigo at his last proven speed was 500x the speed of light. Not nearly as fast as raditz.

@XImpossibruX said:

@Erik said:

@FourthDeity said:

Piccolo's special beam cannon is light speed

Raditz dodged it while being held down.Before you tell me to back THAT up with evidence Piccolos beam reached the moon at around the same time a beam of light would.

Just to play the devil's advocate, what makes you think DBZ Earth has the same relative position to its moon as our planet does to our moon? After all, a ladder connects DBZ Earth to the moon.

What seriously? I'm reading the manga can you tell me what chapter or episode?

And I believe that it's the same distance because Bulma traveled to Jupiter with Popo and gave the distance of which they were going. So the solar system in which earth is the same.

It is in Dragon Ball, not sure where. Last time I read it, it was still an ongoing manga series. Could have been on the show but I want to say I remember it from the manga.

As for the Earth to Jupiter distance, that changes all the time in our solar system alone because our two planets rotate around the sun at different rates. I imagine in the DBZ universe, its Earth and Jupiter both rotate around its sun as well. If that is the case, odds are that it could at one point have a similar distance to ours without having anywhere near the same configuration, allotment of planets/moons/celestial bodies or size/shape/density as anything in our solar system. What you are talking about seems more like coincidence than anything else.

@solesamurai said:

@The_Gravix said:

Has anyone actually seen bleach? He isn't near as fast as top tier soul reapers or has the destructive power.

Raditz was Faster than Light, Ichigo at his last proven speed was 500x the speed of light. Not nearly as fast as raditz.

wait what..?

@No_Trolling said:

@XImpossibruX said:

@No_Trolling: No trolling? But your Trolling right now....

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Only a Bleach fanboy would say otherwise. Raditz causally solo's their verse barely breaking a sweat.

Not casually, but he pulls the job off.

Are you going to tell me i'm trolling or are you going to strike up a debate.

@CadenceV2 said:

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@CadenceV2: That's Goku entering the Physical plane where his presence can be felt. Shinigami can enter/leave the physical/spiritual plane when ever they please but they're always on a the spiritual plane Raditz will not see or sense them unless stated otherwise.

It's similar to when Aizen enters the real karakura town he was in the Physical plane his presence could be felt by others and those unfortunate seamlessly disappeared because of his intense spiritual pressure.

All that proves is that once the said spirit enters the physical plane they're energy or what have you can be felt nothing more nothing less

Well I wont argue that. But FTL is still a problem of hitting him.

@No_Trolling: Like the Invisible Soul Reapers he cant read will tag him as hes FTL.

Please back this up with some evidence.

@No_Trolling said:

@FourthDeity said:

Piccolo's special beam cannon is light speed

Raditz dodged it while being held down.Before you tell me to back THAT up with evidence Piccolos beam reached the moon at around the same time a beam of light would.

Alright i'll concede on that but Raditz will be face thousands of invisible opponents who should be at least super sonic in speed that have unique special abilities. How does he get past Aizen's shikai, total hypnosis? It will put him in an illusion and he won't ever even know he's in.

Technically Aizens Shikai needs to be seen to work and since you're trying to argue Raditz can't see them, then Aizens shikai would be useless.

@TheGraySon said:

@solesamurai said:

@The_Gravix said:

Has anyone actually seen bleach? He isn't near as fast as top tier soul reapers or has the destructive power.

Raditz was Faster than Light, Ichigo at his last proven speed was 500x the speed of light. Not nearly as fast as raditz.

wait what..?

Ichigo in his fight with Gin was 500x the speed of sound, Raditz was FTL Ichigo would still need to be 1k+ times faster to be able to keep up with raditz.