"It depends how Quicksilver fights. If he fights Spider-Man how most speedsters have in the past, Spider-Man can take it. "
I don't know about that, Has spidy ever been hit at mach 1 upwards? "
Off the top of my head, I can't think of it happening. But I meant along the lines of this, which he has done to several speedsters:
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Yeah but lets be fair, the whole point of these battles is to have the two of them fighting at full strength. I know spiderman has his Spider Sense, but that tells him he is in danger not where it i coming from, So if Quiksilver is running at top speed and there is no prep and by the time spideys sense kicks in I think it's fair to say it will be over! That picture shows the speedster getting a fair amounts of hits in before Spidey reacts. Thats why im giving it to Quicksilver.
"Yeah but lets be fair, the whole point of these battles is to have the two of them fighting at full strength. I know spiderman has his Spider Sense, but that tells him he is in danger not where it i coming from. "
It actually does though. There's a scan somewhere of Spiderman fighting Iron Fist in the dark (meaning he cant see), but he's still able to dodge Iron Fists attacks, which are coming from all over, even though he cant see. This implies that his Spider Sense is telling him exactly where the strikes are coming from. But I still think Quicksilver is fast enough to tag him at least once or twice.
"It depends how Quicksilver fights. If he fights Spider-Man how most speedsters have in the past, Spider-Man can take it. "
I don't know about that, Has spidy ever been hit at mach 1 upwards? "
Off the top of my head, I can't think of it happening. But I meant along the lines of this, which he has done to several speedsters:
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Yeah but lets be fair, the whole point of these battles is to have the two of them fighting at full strength. I know spiderman has his Spider Sense, but that tells him he is in danger not where it i coming from, So if Quiksilver is running at top speed and there is no prep and by the time spideys sense kicks in I think it's fair to say it will be over! That picture shows the speedster getting a fair amounts of hits in before Spidey reacts. Thats why im giving it to Quicksilver. "
Actually the Spider-Sense has warned in the past the direction the attack is coming from:
And as Spider-Man said in the first scan, he could have easily leaped out of the way.
"Yeah but lets be fair, the whole point of these battles is to have the two of them fighting at full strength. I know spiderman has his Spider Sense, but that tells him he is in danger not where it i coming from. "
It actually does though. There's a scan somewhere of Spiderman fighting Iron Fist in the dark (meaning he cant see), but he's still able to dodge Iron Fists attacks, which are coming from all over, even though he cant see. This implies that his Spider Sense is telling him exactly where the strikes are coming from. But I still think Quicksilver is fast enough to tag him at least once or twice. "
Yeah but I also have a scan of a rocket getting fired at him but he has no idea where it is coming from and another when he is swinging by a vampire guy (can't remember his name) and his Spider sense goes nuts and he can't locate where, So he slides off in the shadows . I think it depends on the writer.
@Final Arrow: I think you're right, it depends on writer. Its something he's been shown to do but whether or not the writer acknowledges it is another story.
"It depends how Quicksilver fights. If he fights Spider-Man how most speedsters have in the past, Spider-Man can take it. "
I don't know about that, Has spidy ever been hit at mach 1 upwards? "
Off the top of my head, I can't think of it happening. But I meant along the lines of this, which he has done to several speedsters:
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Yeah but lets be fair, the whole point of these battles is to have the two of them fighting at full strength. I know spiderman has his Spider Sense, but that tells him he is in danger not where it i coming from, So if Quiksilver is running at top speed and there is no prep and by the time spideys sense kicks in I think it's fair to say it will be over! That picture shows the speedster getting a fair amounts of hits in before Spidey reacts. Thats why im giving it to Quicksilver. "
Actually the Spider-Sense has warned in the past the direction the attack is coming from:
And as Spider-Man said in the first scan, he could have easily leaped out of the way. "
Points at reply to gambler.
But since im talking about full strength Quicksilver, it only makes it fair if we debate that Spidy knows where the attack is coming from.
So lets just say he can see where the attack is coming from, can he dodge full speed quicksilver?
" @Final Arrow: I think you're right, it depends on writer. Its something he's been shown to do but whether or not the writer acknowledges it is another story. "
I agree but for the sake of the fight I say we give it to him, just to be fair.
" @Final Arrow: He stated that he could have easily leaped out of the way of Speed Demon's attack, but chose to let him get close. "
Yeah but this is not Speed Demon ! You really think that if Quicksilver busted at top speed Spidey is going to get up from the hit? Thats if he gets hit, but then thats not a big if in this battle. But If Spidey manages to get one hit, I don't think Quicksilver will be getting up from it, my argument is at the speeds Quicksilver can move at I don't think Spiderman is going to get the chance and if he makes the same choice in fighting method while fighting Quicksilver, letting him get a hit so he can get close, its going to be done and dusted in that move.
" @Final Arrow: I think you're right, it depends on writer. Its something he's been shown to do but whether or not the writer acknowledges it is another story. "
I agree but for the sake of the fight I say we give it to him, just to be fair. "
@Nobody: that looks more like classic versions then current.Since then quick silver has gotta way faster about 5 times faster and has been trained by captain America in H2H combat. spidey could have beat him 20 years ago but not now
" @Final Arrow: The two have actually fought before. Quicksilver claimed that Spider-Man was too tough for him to take down physically.
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I remember reading that. It was WAAAY back in the early days. I believe this fight happened sometime just after the orignal Brotherhood of Evil Mutants disbanded. Back in those days, Quicksilver was a heck of a lot slower then. Iceman beat him once by tagging him with a snowball. Just after QS joined the Avengers (around this same time) he had a race to see who could reach a distant wall first: him or one of Hawkeye's arrows. QS just barely outspeeded the arrow by a hair. Current Quicksilver is fast enough to run from Tibet to Malaysia and back in a matter of seconds.
@Power NeXus: exactly maybe back then spidey could win but now quicksilver has to much training and his powers have evolved a great deal..... its kinda like the difference between ironman 30 years ago and him now
" @Final Arrow: The two have actually fought before. Quicksilver claimed that Spider-Man was too tough for him to take down physically.
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Im not going to say what has already been said, but I think this scan holds no out come on the current battle as it is so old, As Power Nexus said during that time QS could just out run a Arrow and was hit by a snow ball. A lot has changed since then, Welcome to 2010 XD. I think there is no way that Spidey can tag QS at top speed.
@Nobody said: Yes and as most of us said that Picture proves nothing, you need to stop looking at it as PIS and look at it as a speedster taveling at a high speed hitting a person. Even if he does get out the way and pull one hit that may stop the battle, but the chances of him getting out the way are very slim. What im saying is if quicksilver is travling at max speed and hits Spidy he wont get up.
Quicksilver has changed alot since then and we have to place both fighters at good strength hence why I agreed with Gambler that even when some writers give Spidy Spidy sense that can't tell him where danger is coming from and others do we need to in all fairness allow Spidery to have the spidy sense where he knows where the attack is coming to make it fair. Quicksilver may not be at the level of the flash but he is extermly fast in Marvel Uni, by the time Spidey moves it stands to reason that Quicksilver sould be able to catch him with a stong punch and due to physic a punch at super speed will clear almost anyones clock.
" @Nobody said: Yes and as most of us said that Picture proves nothing, you need to stop looking at it as PIS and look at it as a speedster taveling at a high speed hitting a person. Even if he does get out the way and pull one hit that may stop the battle, but the chances of him getting out the way are very slim. What im saying is if quicksilver is travling at max speed and hits Spidy he wont get up. Quicksilver has changed alot since then and we have to place both fighters at good strength hence why I agreed with Gambler that even when some writers give Spidy Spidy sense that can't tell him where danger is coming from and others do we need to in all fairness allow Spidery to have the spidy sense where he knows where the attack is coming to make it fair. Quicksilver may not be at the level of the flash but he is extermly fast in Marvel Uni, by the time Spidey moves it stands to reason that Quicksilver sould be able to catch him with a stong punch and due to physic a punch at super speed will clear almost anyones clock. "
" @Nobody said: Yes and as most of us said that Picture proves nothing, you need to stop looking at it as PIS and look at it as a speedster taveling at a high speed hitting a person. Even if he does get out the way and pull one hit that may stop the battle, but the chances of him getting out the way are very slim. What im saying is if quicksilver is travling at max speed and hits Spidy he wont get up. Quicksilver has changed alot since then and we have to place both fighters at good strength hence why I agreed with Gambler that even when some writers give Spidy Spidy sense that can't tell him where danger is coming from and others do we need to in all fairness allow Spidery to have the spidy sense where he knows where the attack is coming to make it fair. Quicksilver may not be at the level of the flash but he is extermly fast in Marvel Uni, by the time Spidey moves it stands to reason that Quicksilver sould be able to catch him with a stong punch and due to physic a punch at super speed will clear almost anyones clock. "
I don't believe Quicksilver can punch something at full speed. I can't recall a time where Quicksilver has every charged at someone with full speed and punched him as hard as he could. The reason for this is unlike the Flash, who can preform his infinite mass punch, Quicksilver isn't protected by any speed force. It is just his body moving at rapid speeds and nothing in between to stop the friction. I believe Quicksilver punching Spider-Man at a full speed punch would cause Quicksilver more harm than good. I believe this is why he punches rapidly instead of coming at something full speed and hitting it with one blow.
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