Quasar, Sentry & Silver Surfer vs Monarch

I think the combined power of the Marvel team could do it.

Monarch.

Quasar,Sentry,& Silver Surfer.CURBSTOMP

"Quasar,Sentry,& Silver Surfer.CURBSTOMP"

I don't really think they can beat him.

"I don't really think they can beat him."

Team one ftw

"never give up said:

"I don't really think they can beat him."

I think Silver Surfer or Sentry can just about beat him alone."

"Vance Astro said:

"never give up said:

"I don't really think they can beat him."

I think Silver Surfer or Sentry can just about beat him alone."

Do they have strength on superman prime level..."

thats some terrible art

ok but you say he would lose to zoom?

"never give up said:

"I don't really think they can beat him."

I think Silver Surfer or Sentry can just about beat him alone."

"Monarch."

If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win.

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

It doesn't really matter how many elseworlds/non consequentiel supermen or atoms he beats, untill he can take out the real deals, he aint getting past this trio!"

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

1.Sentry is potentially more powerful than Superman

2.Last time I checked Prime beat Monarch.

3.Silver Surfer if he was a mutant would be an Omega Level telepath..guess who has no immunity to telepathy?

4.Monarch's weakness is absorbing too much power at once....(does Sentry vs. Absorbing Man flash in you mind)

"

"Vance Astro said:

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

1.Sentry is potentially more powerful than Superman

2.Last time I checked Prime beat Monarch.

3.Silver Surfer if he was a mutant would be an Omega Level telepath..guess who has no immunity to telepathy?

4.Monarch's weakness is absorbing too much power at once....(does Sentry vs. Absorbing Man flash in you mind)

"

1. Sentry can be Potentially all he likes, prove it by showing me sum scans! You can't, you know why, cause there isn't any!
2. Last I checked, we must have read different comics, cause all Prime Did was open up his suit and exploded, up till then, they both were holding there own! I can live with a BFR for both
4. No, That was Captain Atoms weakness, not Monarchs!"

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

1.Sentry is potentially more powerful than Superman

2.Last time I checked Prime beat Monarch.

3.Silver Surfer if he was a mutant would be an Omega Level telepath..guess who has no immunity to telepathy?

4.Monarch's weakness is absorbing too much power at once....(does Sentry vs. Absorbing Man flash in you mind)

"

And Monarch is a being composed of energy. Who says he has a mind that can be effected by telepathy?

"Vance Astro said:

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

1.Sentry is potentially more powerful than Superman

2.Last time I checked Prime beat Monarch.

3.Silver Surfer if he was a mutant would be an Omega Level telepath..guess who has no immunity to telepathy?

4.Monarch's weakness is absorbing too much power at once....(does Sentry vs. Absorbing Man flash in you mind)

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1) So far that potential hasn't shown itself.
2) Prime lost. The power he stole from the Guardian was running out. In a last desperate effort, he tore his suit. I can see why yo feel he won, but I don't think he did.
3) Silver Surfer being a telepath is completly new to me. When did this happen?
4) Monarch never showed a problem absorbing energy. He didn't show any sign of this during the series."

"Alpha said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

1.Sentry is potentially more powerful than Superman

2.Last time I checked Prime beat Monarch.

3.Silver Surfer if he was a mutant would be an Omega Level telepath..guess who has no immunity to telepathy?

4.Monarch's weakness is absorbing too much power at once....(does Sentry vs. Absorbing Man flash in you mind)

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1) So far that potential hasn't shown itself.
2) Prime lost. The power he stole from the Guardian was running out. In a last desperate effort, he tore his suit. I can see why yo feel he won, but I don't think he did.
3) Silver Surfer being a telepath is completly new to me. When did this happen?
4) Monarch never showed a problem absorbing energy. He didn't show any sign of this during the series."

1.In Mighty Avengers..no,In his mini-series.Yes.

2.Silver Surfer could beat Prime too..alone.

3.Where have you been Silver Surfer has been a telepath since he was first created.I will show you scans if I need to.

4.What is the most he had to absorb?

"

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

1.Sentry is potentially more powerful than Superman

2.Last time I checked Prime beat Monarch.

3.Silver Surfer if he was a mutant would be an Omega Level telepath..guess who has no immunity to telepathy?

4.Monarch's weakness is absorbing too much power at once....(does Sentry vs. Absorbing Man flash in you mind)

"

1. Sentry can be Potentially all he likes, prove it by showing me sum scans! You can't, you know why, cause there isn't any!
2. Last I checked, we must have read different comics, cause all Prime Did was open up his suit and exploded, up till then, they both were holding there own! I can live with a BFR for both
4. No, That was Captain Atoms weakness, not Monarchs!"

1.Sentry's feats have been downgraded to fit with Mighty Avengers.So he doesn't own everyone.According to the handbook his strength is unlimited with concentration and mental stability.

2.Prime owned Monarch....

3.No answer for telepathy huh?

4.How do you know that isn't Monarch's weakness?

"

"Vance Astro said:

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

1.Sentry is potentially more powerful than Superman

2.Last time I checked Prime beat Monarch.

3.Silver Surfer if he was a mutant would be an Omega Level telepath..guess who has no immunity to telepathy?

4.Monarch's weakness is absorbing too much power at once....(does Sentry vs. Absorbing Man flash in you mind)

"

1. Sentry can be Potentially all he likes, prove it by showing me sum scans! You can't, you know why, cause there isn't any!
2. Last I checked, we must have read different comics, cause all Prime Did was open up his suit and exploded, up till then, they both were holding there own! I can live with a BFR for both
4. No, That was Captain Atoms weakness, not Monarchs!"

1.Sentry's feats have been downgraded to fit with Mighty Avengers.So he doesn't own everyone.According to the handbook his strength is unlimited with concentration and mental stability.

2.Prime owned Monarch....

3.No answer for telepathy huh?

4.How do you know that isn't Monarch's weakness?

"

1. As do anyother bigtimer in a groupbook (Thor,Superman) but that's not what were talking bout here! According to the handbook? So what, what does that mean, if, as Alpha has stated, he hasn't even come close to showing that potentiel, outsiding of brooding and commiserating everytime he's needed in a fight! He's no top end yet and still has a long way to go to show it! He couldn't even take out WWH, he burnt himself out, for crying out loud, and then got knocked out! Yeah, he's definately POTENTIALLY the strongest (not)!
2. Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for me on where you stand, don't really need to say anymore, cause you've been reading a VERY different comic to the rest of  us!
3. Do I need one?
4. How do I know that's not Monarch's weakness? That's your comeback? You want me to answer that for you! I'll tell you what, i'll make you work for it and dig up you own answers, by showing me where he's ever absorbed too much energy and couldn't handle it and exploded or shunted in time or has been stated he can only handle a certain amount of energy before any of the above happens to him! That's why he's Monach and not Captain Atom, cause he can absorb abnormal amounts of energy and utilize it without losing control! That was Captain Atoms biggest problem, Monarch has no such problems, and a big part of that is his suit, wich contains that energy, which is something CA was lacking!"

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

1.Sentry is potentially more powerful than Superman

2.Last time I checked Prime beat Monarch.

3.Silver Surfer if he was a mutant would be an Omega Level telepath..guess who has no immunity to telepathy?

4.Monarch's weakness is absorbing too much power at once....(does Sentry vs. Absorbing Man flash in you mind)

"

1. Sentry can be Potentially all he likes, prove it by showing me sum scans! You can't, you know why, cause there isn't any!
2. Last I checked, we must have read different comics, cause all Prime Did was open up his suit and exploded, up till then, they both were holding there own! I can live with a BFR for both
4. No, That was Captain Atoms weakness, not Monarchs!"

1.Sentry's feats have been downgraded to fit with Mighty Avengers.So he doesn't own everyone.According to the handbook his strength is unlimited with concentration and mental stability.

2.Prime owned Monarch....

3.No answer for telepathy huh?

4.How do you know that isn't Monarch's weakness?

"

1. As do anyother bigtimer in a groupbook (Thor,Superman) but that's not what were talking bout here! According to the handbook? So what, what does that mean, if, as Alpha has stated, he hasn't even come close to showing that potentiel, outsiding of brooding and commiserating everytime he's needed in a fight! He's no top end yet and still has a long way to go to show it! He couldn't even take out WWH, he burnt himself out, for crying out loud, and then got knocked out! Yeah, he's definately POTENTIALLY the strongest (not)!
2. Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for me on where you stand, don't really need to say anymore, cause you've been reading a VERY different comic to the rest of  us!
3. Do I need one?
4. How do I know that's not Monarch's weakness? That's your comeback? You want me to answer that for you! I'll tell you what, i'll make you work for it and dig up you own answers, by showing me where he's ever absorbed too much energy and couldn't handle it and exploded or shunted in time or has been stated he can only handle a certain amount of energy before any of the above happens to him! That's why he's Monach and not Captain Atom, cause he can absorb abnormal amounts of energy and utilize it without losing control! That was Captain Atoms biggest problem, Monarch has no such problems, and a big part of that is his suit, wich contains that energy, which is something CA was lacking!"

1.This response it ridiculous.Sentry is more powerful than we have seen thus far.The handbook says his power is unlimited with mental stability and concentration.The proof is this.In Sentry's mini when he was sane he stalemated Galactus,had conversations with Black Bolt in person when most people far to even withstand a whisper,created his own canyon,through his alter ego in the sun,and was said to be able to lift Volcanoes,stop tectonic plates from moving and emit enough energy to destroy planets.As of Mighty Avengers when found schizophrenic..his mind was unstable and he was insane,thus his powers dampend.He was just beggining to regain stability before Secret Invasion.Secondly..Sentry explained to someone who had taken his powers that without stability she could not retain his powers...she then saw the Void..and went insane.Sentry's conversation with Iron Man suggests that Sentry might not have been at his best when he fought Hulk..he was afraid he might hurt someone if he lost control for even a second.

2.Whether Prime beat Monarch or not,I believe Silver Surfer could beat Prime.If Prime was able to get off so many damaging shots on Monarch than Silver Surfer with a cosmic level being and the most powerful hero on earth should be able to pull off a win.

3.Yes..you do.If Monarch has no immunity to it..he loses easily.

4.If you didn't know the answer you could have just said so.That wasn't a comeback that was me asking a question I don't know the answer to.

5.Does Monarch have any resistance to Transmutation?

"

@Alpha

"Vance Astro said:

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

1.Sentry is potentially more powerful than Superman

2.Last time I checked Prime beat Monarch.

3.Silver Surfer if he was a mutant would be an Omega Level telepath..guess who has no immunity to telepathy?

4.Monarch's weakness is absorbing too much power at once....(does Sentry vs. Absorbing Man flash in you mind)

"

1. Sentry can be Potentially all he likes, prove it by showing me sum scans! You can't, you know why, cause there isn't any!
2. Last I checked, we must have read different comics, cause all Prime Did was open up his suit and exploded, up till then, they both were holding there own! I can live with a BFR for both
4. No, That was Captain Atoms weakness, not Monarchs!"

1.Sentry's feats have been downgraded to fit with Mighty Avengers.So he doesn't own everyone.According to the handbook his strength is unlimited with concentration and mental stability.

2.Prime owned Monarch....

3.No answer for telepathy huh?

4.How do you know that isn't Monarch's weakness?

"

1. As do anyother bigtimer in a groupbook (Thor,Superman) but that's not what were talking bout here! According to the handbook? So what, what does that mean, if, as Alpha has stated, he hasn't even come close to showing that potentiel, outsiding of brooding and commiserating everytime he's needed in a fight! He's no top end yet and still has a long way to go to show it! He couldn't even take out WWH, he burnt himself out, for crying out loud, and then got knocked out! Yeah, he's definately POTENTIALLY the strongest (not)!
2. Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for me on where you stand, don't really need to say anymore, cause you've been reading a VERY different comic to the rest of  us!
3. Do I need one?
4. How do I know that's not Monarch's weakness? That's your comeback? You want me to answer that for you! I'll tell you what, i'll make you work for it and dig up you own answers, by showing me where he's ever absorbed too much energy and couldn't handle it and exploded or shunted in time or has been stated he can only handle a certain amount of energy before any of the above happens to him! That's why he's Monach and not Captain Atom, cause he can absorb abnormal amounts of energy and utilize it without losing control! That was Captain Atoms biggest problem, Monarch has no such problems, and a big part of that is his suit, wich contains that energy, which is something CA was lacking!"

1.This response it ridiculous.Sentry is more powerful than we have seen thus far.The handbook says his power is unlimited with mental stability and concentration.The proof is this.In Sentry's mini when he was sane he stalemated Galactus,had conversations with Black Bolt in person when most people far to even withstand a whisper,created his own canyon,through his alter ego in the sun,and was said to be able to lift Volcanoes,stop tectonic plates from moving and emit enough energy to destroy planets.As of Mighty Avengers when found schizophrenic..his mind was unstable and he was insane,thus his powers dampend.He was just beggining to regain stability before Secret Invasion.Secondly..Sentry explained to someone who had taken his powers that without stability she could not retain his powers...she then saw the Void..and went insane.Sentry's conversation with Iron Man suggests that Sentry might not have been at his best when he fought Hulk..he was afraid he might hurt someone if he lost control for even a second.

2.Whether Prime beat Monarch or not,I believe Silver Surfer could beat Prime.If Prime was able to get off so many damaging shots on Monarch than Silver Surfer with a cosmic level being and the most powerful hero on earth should be able to pull off a win.

3.Yes..you do.If Monarch has no immunity to it..he loses easily.

4.If you didn't know the answer you could have just said so.That wasn't a comeback that was me asking a question I don't know the answer to.

5.Does Monarch have any resistance to Transmutation?

"

My apologies on No. 4 then, I may have been a bit brash in my answering!

I don't have anything to prove it, but i'd say yes, he'd be resistant to transmutation!"

nice nice debate I wont more!

"nice nice debate I wont more!"

want!!! you know what I ment!

"Vance Astro said:

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Alpha said:

"If u look at this way, Monarch could win.

Monarch defeated 3 Superman's at one time, so that is two Sentry's more than listed.
Superboy Prime beat a squad of Green Lanterns. Monarch handled Superman Prime, who is stronger than SBP, so that covers Quasar.
Silver Surfer is powerful, but I can't see him winning either of the previous battles.

I still think the Marvel team would win, but I can see why someone may think that Monarch could win."

1.Sentry is potentially more powerful than Superman

2.Last time I checked Prime beat Monarch.

3.Silver Surfer if he was a mutant would be an Omega Level telepath..guess who has no immunity to telepathy?

4.Monarch's weakness is absorbing too much power at once....(does Sentry vs. Absorbing Man flash in you mind)

"

1. Sentry can be Potentially all he likes, prove it by showing me sum scans! You can't, you know why, cause there isn't any!
2. Last I checked, we must have read different comics, cause all Prime Did was open up his suit and exploded, up till then, they both were holding there own! I can live with a BFR for both
4. No, That was Captain Atoms weakness, not Monarchs!"

1.Sentry's feats have been downgraded to fit with Mighty Avengers.So he doesn't own everyone.According to the handbook his strength is unlimited with concentration and mental stability.

2.Prime owned Monarch....

3.No answer for telepathy huh?

4.How do you know that isn't Monarch's weakness?

"

1. As do anyother bigtimer in a groupbook (Thor,Superman) but that's not what were talking bout here! According to the handbook? So what, what does that mean, if, as Alpha has stated, he hasn't even come close to showing that potentiel, outsiding of brooding and commiserating everytime he's needed in a fight! He's no top end yet and still has a long way to go to show it! He couldn't even take out WWH, he burnt himself out, for crying out loud, and then got knocked out! Yeah, he's definately POTENTIALLY the strongest (not)!
2. Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for me on where you stand, don't really need to say anymore, cause you've been reading a VERY different comic to the rest of  us!
3. Do I need one?
4. How do I know that's not Monarch's weakness? That's your comeback? You want me to answer that for you! I'll tell you what, i'll make you work for it and dig up you own answers, by showing me where he's ever absorbed too much energy and couldn't handle it and exploded or shunted in time or has been stated he can only handle a certain amount of energy before any of the above happens to him! That's why he's Monach and not Captain Atom, cause he can absorb abnormal amounts of energy and utilize it without losing control! That was Captain Atoms biggest problem, Monarch has no such problems, and a big part of that is his suit, wich contains that energy, which is something CA was lacking!"

1.This response it ridiculous.Sentry is more powerful than we have seen thus far.The handbook says his power is unlimited with mental stability and concentration.The proof is this.In Sentry's mini when he was sane he stalemated Galactus,had conversations with Black Bolt in person when most people far to even withstand a whisper,created his own canyon,through his alter ego in the sun,and was said to be able to lift Volcanoes,stop tectonic plates from moving and emit enough energy to destroy planets.As of Mighty Avengers when found schizophrenic..his mind was unstable and he was insane,thus his powers dampend.He was just beggining to regain stability before Secret Invasion.Secondly..Sentry explained to someone who had taken his powers that without stability she could not retain his powers...she then saw the Void..and went insane.Sentry's conversation with Iron Man suggests that Sentry might not have been at his best when he fought Hulk..he was afraid he might hurt someone if he lost control for even a second.

2.Whether Prime beat Monarch or not,I believe Silver Surfer could beat Prime.If Prime was able to get off so many damaging shots on Monarch than Silver Surfer with a cosmic level being and the most powerful hero on earth should be able to pull off a win.

3.Yes..you do.If Monarch has no immunity to it..he loses easily.

4.If you didn't know the answer you could have just said so.That wasn't a comeback that was me asking a question I don't know the answer to.

5.Does Monarch have any resistance to Transmutation?

"

My apologies on No. 4 then, I may have been a bit brash in my answering!

I don't have anything to prove it, but i'd say yes, he'd be resistant to transmutation!"

No proof? Well than I will assume he can be transmuted."

Feel free to do so :-)"

I know what Monarch is under the armor.

Thanks Vance for the scans. Has made me up my opinion of the Surfers power level. 

A few things though:

1) That didn't seem like telepathy. It said that he blanket the world with resultant energy.

2) That post of She-Hulk was kinda "bad-writing". I've seen Silver Surfer reel from blows from characters less stronger her.

I still don't think he can take Monarch alone. Again, his power is great but his is greater

I do espsially when surfer just accessed the power of the big bang itself. Surfer alone should do it IMO but these 3 are definantly a beat down.

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I do espsially when surfer just accessed the power of the big bang itself. Surfer alone should do it IMO but these 3 are definantly a beat down.

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"SeSAW said:

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I do espsially when surfer just accessed the power of the big bang itself. Surfer alone should do it IMO but these 3 are definantly a beat down.

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The level of power that is being givin to him would make him almost a match for his Master. Surfer is the strongest of the Heralds, but he is not as poweful as most think. He has been made even stronger latelt and even Nova (who has been augmented as well) held out against him."

"Quasar,Sentry,& Silver Surfer.CURBSTOMP"

Yes and even the old Surfer was as close to a skyfather you could get w/o actually being one.

"Yes and even the old Surfer was as close to a skyfather you could get w/o actually being one."

"SeSAW said:

"Yes and even the old Surfer was as close to a skyfather you could get w/o actually being one."

He couldn't beat classic Thor (who was far from a skyfather). How can you feel that way?"

"Alpha said:

"SeSAW said:

"Yes and even the old Surfer was as close to a skyfather you could get w/o actually being one."

He couldn't beat classic Thor (who was far from a skyfather). How can you feel that way?"

first of all classic Thors asgurdian magic has done things that are skyfather level easily; for instance banishing people to another dimension, challenging mephisto, even turning galactus around so its not really a blemish to lose to him if Thor uses his total power, the problem is Thor either is written to fight dumb at times or over confident, like when he fights Hulk, or enemies of the Avengers.

Next i had to add,  the statement that most people always use that Surfer never beat classic Thor is a lie. He pretty much couldve killed Thor the first time they fought, but realized he was tricked and left the scene. And the only other 2 times classic Thor beat him were the one instance in which he was in warriors madness which increases his power 10 fold, and another time whe he was in warriors madness and had the Power Gem, and both times he was still unable to Ko the Surfer you can look it up. And just to note WM Thor went blow for blow in a brawl with the Meastro Hulk, and WM Thor with the power gem went blow for blow with Thanos. And this is the real truth, so you should go back and look at classic thors feats."

Sentry dies in two seconds but thats all monarch can do in this battle.

"Sentry dies in two seconds but thats all monarch can do in this battle."

"Dreadnaught said:

"Sentry dies in two seconds but thats all monarch can do in this battle."

What do you mean?

Are you saying that the Sentry would fall but the team would win?"

"Alpha said:

"Dreadnaught said:

"Sentry dies in two seconds but thats all monarch can do in this battle."

What do you mean?

Are you saying that the Sentry would fall but the team would win?"

Yes, especially because you never said if it was sentry in control or his emo- wrist slitting persona that is only surpassed by Emo errr Anakin Skywalker. "