Q vs. Genie

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#1  Edited By JohnnyZ256

Random encounter. Genie is at his strongest level.

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#2  Edited By transcendence

Genie is omnipotent. He wins.

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@transcendence No he's not.

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Q could just collapse the universe that Genie's in.

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Isn't Q some kind of Multiversal god(s)? Genie at best is only Universal..

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from what i have seen Qs power would seem more impressive

and it coulndt be random encounter Qs dont just walk randomly -they know whats there,they can stop/travel through time,alternate reality anyway they want-if other Q approves

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@transcendence: Easy. He is limited to a lamp and must grant his master's wishes. In other words, he has no free will. Omnipotents aren't limited.

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@transcendence: Easy. He is limited to a lamp and must grant his master's wishes. In other words, he has no free will. Omnipotents aren't limited.

To be fair, the OP said at their most powerful. And at his most powerful, Genie was freed from his lamp and his limitations as a Genie.

In theory, he could at that point be omnipotent.

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@jmarshmallow: Even if Genie was freed from the lamp, the fact remains that he can/was only freed through someone else's desire to do so. He isn't omnipotent nor was it ever implied he was. He's simply a magical reality warper; there are tons of those.

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@jmarshmallow: Even if Genie was freed from the lamp, the fact remains that he can/was only freed through someone else's desire to do so. He isn't omnipotent nor was it ever implied he was. He's simply a magical reality warper; there are tons of those.

The fact that he could grant ANY wish makes him omnipotent, with the only limitation being that he needed someone to wish it.

When he no longer had that limitation, there's really nothing holding him back from being an omnipotent being.

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@jmarshmallow: Even if Genie was freed from the lamp, the fact remains that he can/was only freed through someone else's desire to do so. He isn't omnipotent nor was it ever implied he was. He's simply a magical reality warper; there are tons of those.

Reality Warpers are just under Omnipotents. Genie wins.

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@transcendence: I never said he doesn't win. I just said he isn't omnipotent. @jmarshmallow: I really doubt he is omnipotent, but suit yourself.

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@transcendence: I never said he doesn't win. I just said he isn't omnipotent. @jmarshmallow: I really doubt he is omnipotent, but suit yourself.

So you're trying to say omnipotents don't exist in fiction and that they are only high tier magical reality warpers?

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#16  Edited By Etheral_Dreams

@transcendence: I never said that. There are plenty of omnipotents (e.g. TOAA, MoM, LoN, Kami Tenchi, Medaka, Azathoth, ect.) However, genie isn't one of them. He is just a magically powered reality warper (like Mr. Mxyzptlk or House of M Scarlet Witch) with feats that are planetary at best.

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Bump

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Genie via toonforce.

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Toon Force will be a problem but based on feats, Q is the winner although I'm backing Genie.

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5342 posts is much more palatable than 5341, so I'll bump this thread.

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q has better feats from what I heard

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Genie is "only" galaxy level based on feats and implied universal. Q should win

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