Q vs Doctor strange
Q arrives on earth only to be met by Dr strange,fight on,winner? {im not 100% which Dr strange version is most powerful,but its that version here}
If we ignore the prep thing Avatar of eternity strange >>> Arioch strange >>> Classic strange. (Arioch strange did take place during the Classic era, so if you can call him "classic strange is debatable)
As for the cosmic beings?
The in-betweener
Galactus
The living tribunal (Didn't actual "fight him" in the traditional sense, but he surpassed his expectations 3-4 times in one pannel)
Death
Shuma-gorath in his own realm
He's also fought numerous other high level beings that aren't exactly "cosmic"
Ikonn
Mephisto
satannish
dormmamu
Chthon
deathurge
zom
and probably more that i don't remember.
i know of Q's powers,but im sure the most powerful version of Dr strange can put up a fight here?
" a particular form of something differing in certain respects from an earlier form or other forms of the same type of thing"
Strange with prep differs from Normal strange because he has prep. That would mean he's a version of strange.
If Strange with prep is a version of Strange or no, were getting off topic.
Either Arioch strange or Avatar of eternity strange should be able to defeat Q.
During the Q civil war, the Q's were using weapons to try and kill the other Q's.When Q (original) had fired a weapon, he had stated he had just destroyed a galaxy. Now if the Q's are using weapons i think we can safely assume it's to increase their destructive ability. Which would mean that q is likely <<< then a galaxy buster.
Eternity is obviously >>>> Galaxy busting so avatar strange should be >>> Q. And the excess power radiating off of Arioch strange would destroy our galaxy is he was to come back to our dimension without releasing his power. Classic strange could reproduce most if not all of Q's feats, and by power scaling Arioch and Avatar should be >>>> that.
" @LT1085: The oxford definition of version is " a particular form of something differing in certain respects from an earlier form or other forms of the same type of thing" Strange with prep differs from Normal strange because he has prep. That would mean he's a version of strange. "Okay, listen new kid, I know you only have 332 posts, so I can't expect you to be a competent user right off the bat. But, It doesn't matter what one of the dictionary definitions of the word is, in the battle forums it means what I said. End of argument.
Why does people belive Q is so weak?
He create a time/space paradox, he created universes without a problem, how does Strange could beat him?
Q is way more powerful in my opinion, plus if we assume Strange has prep then we can also assume Q does as well.
" @DeathpooltheT1000: I Realize that. Which is why i'm asking when he created a universe in canon.He created, The Last episode of The Next Generation, The Robin hood episode and when Picard dies, he change the universe.
@angryvigilante: The scary thing is, Doctor strange can recreate most of Q's feats. I Think that Q is overrated (definitely not omnipotent, i would say mid skyfather probably) "
what means he can control, time and space.
To bad Voyager ruined the character,m because Voyager was less popular that Q
@LT1085: The OP only said that were using the strongest Doctor strange version, and the strongest Doctor strange is Doctor strange with prep. If we ignore the prep thing Avatar of eternity strange >>> Arioch strange >>> Classic strange. (Arioch strange did take place during the Classic era, so if you can call him "classic strange is debatable) As for the cosmic beings? The in-betweener Galactus The living tribunal (Didn't actual "fight him" in the traditional sense, but he surpassed his expectations 3-4 times in one pannel) Death Shuma-gorath in his own realm He's also fought numerous other high level beings that aren't exactly "cosmic" Ikonn Mephisto satannish dormmamu Chthon deathurge zom and probably more that i don't remember.Classic Strange (i.e Sorcerer Supreme ) is the most powerful version. Some of the cosmic's you've listed "Classic Strange" fought and matched or defeated without prep. Classic Strange like all comics supreme level mystics ( Spectre, "classic" Dr Fate for example) can draw power from multiple sources. These characters have had wins against characters who are usually more powerful than them by actually drawing on their opponents power or other powerful sources outside the norm ( "classic" Strange used the power of the dark realms against {as in Dormmamu's realm and source of power) against Dormmamu. He used part of Shuma Goraths power against him. Fate similarly used the power of both the lords of order and Chaos and the human spirit against the aligned lords of Order and Chaos Ynar and Vandeamon.
Q isn't "omnipotent" this has been stated several times in various Star Trek series. his is a race that evolved to a higher existence, and according to the end of NG it's the expectation of the Q continuum that the human race will surpass them.
I wouldn't by any means count "classic" Strange out, but he does have quite a fight on his hands.
@darkrein said:True, in fact he was owned by Power Gem alone.@LT1085 said:Um, Strange has never resisted the IG, to my knowledge.Peak strange is strange with prep and at that point he has resisted cosmic beings and the infinity gauntlet." Something tells me that you aren't 100% who Q is either... "
@darkrein said:I don't know why you people bumped this thread but i can't let my good name go unsullied.@LT1085 said:Um, Strange has never resisted the IG, to my knowledge.Peak strange is strange with prep and at that point he has resisted cosmic beings and the infinity gauntlet." Something tells me that you aren't 100% who Q is either... "
Why does people belive Q is so weak? He create a time/space paradox, he created universes without a problem, how does Strange could beat him?Because his showings are parlor tricks for the most part and teleportation. The big stuff deals primarily with time manipulation and implied power.
@Assman said: @Boobster:Not sure the term 'resisted/resisting the ig' is the correct term? That has more to do with Warlock than the ig, which is why in the first issue of Warlcok & Infinity Watch the LT ruled against Warlock holding onto it cause it was unstable. IG>>>>>>>Strange still many times over.@darkrein said:I don't know why you people bumped this thread but i can't let my good name go unsullied.@LT1085 said:Um, Strange has never resisted the IG, to my knowledge.Peak strange is strange with prep and at that point he has resisted cosmic beings and the infinity gauntlet." Something tells me that you aren't 100% who Q is either... "
Q change reallity.
So far all the so call evidence in every battle Q is, this guy can do anything with PIS powers.
That why is caled PIS.
Q change reallity. So far all the so call evidence in every battle Q is, this guy can do anything with PIS powers. That why is caled PIS.Parlor tricks that dozens of other characters that can beat out.
Like I said the best feats Q musters all involve time manipulation.
@Skaddix said:
Q takes it. Q is like Wanda or Franklin except for he is not crazy and knows what he is doing.His feats are no where near that good.
Much like the fact a couple of modified phasers can have multiple Q at gun point, I very much doubt Strange at his most powerful wouldn't bulldoze through him.
Modified Phasers never held multiple Q at gunpoints. Q superweapons used to kill other Q that looked like crappy weapons held multiple Q at gunpoint.Still that dont change the fact this guys only read thing on the Q battle and dont go to see the series, they hate Q for the fact he could destroy almost every comic book character.
Modified Phasers never held multiple Q at gunpoints. Q superweapons used to kill other Q that looked like crappy weapons held multiple Q at gunpoint.The female Q modified their phasers to be able to hold them at gunpoint.
If you want to claim that each of those phasers was now capable of galaxy busting more power to you.
@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
Still that dont change the fact this guys only read thing on the Q battle and dont go to see the series, they hate Q for the fact he could destroy almost every comic book character.Big star trek fan, well maybe not super big, but I've seen all of Q's showings in the actual series. Q's can be harmed, killed and even self admittedly aren't omnipotent.
@Skaddix said:So is not a normal phaser, since there is no way to know what the Q did to the weapon.Modified Phasers never held multiple Q at gunpoints. Q superweapons used to kill other Q that looked like crappy weapons held multiple Q at gunpoint.The female Q modified their phasers to be able to hold them at gunpoint.
If you want to claim that each of those phasers was now capable of galaxy busting more power to you.
@DeathpooltheT1000 said:Still that dont change the fact this guys only read thing on the Q battle and dont go to see the series, they hate Q for the fact he could destroy almost every comic book character.Big star trek fan, well maybe not super big, but I've seen all of Q's showings in the actual series. Q's can be harmed, killed and even self admittedly aren't omnipotent.
So is not a normal phaser, since there is no way to know what the Q did to the weapon.Federation technology has it's limits, said Q if I recall couldn't even use her powers at the time so she would just have access to her vast knowledge.
Albeit that has it limits as well given Geordi's frustration when a depowered Q was seeking refuge on the Enterprise and he wasn't being very helpful.
@theicon said:
Q winsHow?
Classic Strange held his own with LT(not saying he could beat LT) so Q wins but this fight isn't a stomp for either of them.Are you trying to say Q would hold his own against LT?
Classic Strange was humbled by the In-Betweener.
Q is much higher up the ladder than the In-Betweener.
Classic Strange was humbled by the In-Betweener. Q is much higher up the ladder than the In-Betweener.How so?
@High Revolutionary said:Not bound to order and chaos.Classic Strange was humbled by the In-Betweener. Q is much higher up the ladder than the In-Betweener.How so?
Not seeing how that bumps Q up the ladder.@isaac_clarke said:
@High Revolutionary said:Not bound to order and chaos.Classic Strange was humbled by the In-Betweener. Q is much higher up the ladder than the In-Betweener.How so?
At the end of the day they are simply a highly evolved race that is unable to surpass it's own evolutionary brick wall, not even omnipotent and possessing clear distinctions of power among-st their own.
The suicide of a single Q had the continuum in complete chaos.
@jojjimbo said:Yeah....i don't think he would win, but he could hold his own, for a while anyway, just like strange did.Classic Strange held his own with LT(not saying he could beat LT) so Q wins but this fight isn't a stomp for either of them.Are you trying to say Q would hold his own against LT?
The thing is Strange was using Magic against LT, much like LT responded with Magic.Yeah....i don't think he would win, but he could hold his own, for a while anyway, just like strange did.
There is really nothing Q can do to LT if LT actually uses his own power it won't be a long fight and I'm not even entirely sure Q would tank magic that well either since it seems non existent in Star Trek.
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