PYP HC: STG vs Those_Eyes (Voting)

• 10 points to spend on characters. Once a character is picked, they are gone. Henchmen can be picked multiple times.
• All Characters with Expanded Universe are allowed there EU feats. DC allowed Pre and New 52 feats.
• All characters are in character, and still hold onto their rivalry. They will not work well with enemies on their team, but will not attack said enemies either. They will recognize people from their own universes as well.
• No BFR, but can teleport others around the battlefield.
• No Mental KO or Mental control of a enemy team. Applies to soul abilities as well.
• Time Manipulation is allowed only on the character who has it only. Can not Increase speed past Hypersonic.
• Transmutation is allowed, but limited to 1 character use on a enemy team. On your own team, and anyone outside the enemy team is fair game.
• Intangibility, Teleporting, and Transmutation dismemberment are not allowed on enemy team, but everyone else is fine.
• Gear must remain Street Level.
• Summons/Duplicates limited to Navy Seal Team quality. You cannot summon anything or duplicate enough to overwhelm a 6 man Navy Seal Team with ease.
• Unsure, then ask. If things get out of hand, rulings will be made.

You will be dropped off on your landing square, as well the enemy. Both of you are trying to deliver your package to the systems government, and irreplaceable payload of material, but to do this you must take out the others package. The Package is in a steel case, immune to TK, Phasing, and Teleporting. Weighs roughly 3 tons. It must somehow be destroyed. However there is one hitch. All the forces around your package are there to keep the peace, and will fire on both parties when someone makes the first move.

The Yellow represents our Colonial Marines armed with Pulse Rifles, and body armor.

The green the Colonial Air Support. Heavily armed.

He's so awesome.....I mean....

Jack has so many things going for him it isn't funny

When he isn't deflecting machine gun fire with just his sword, hes probably fighting a bunch of super archer droids.....blindfolded

At least they aren't capable of taking out armies by themselves...no...wait..

DURABILITY

Jack has survived being crushed by 700 ton sumo wrestler, he has survived an exploding building, and perhaps most impressive Jack has survived falling from space reentry and the fall itself

SPEED

Samurai Jack is the fastest person on the board full stop

He isn't just the fastest in terms of running speed, but in terms of reaction speed, and combat speed

Here are some feats

He ran across a field some 300 meters or so in length, dodging arrows from 3 supernaturally - enhanced archers capable of firing thousands of arrows per second each (who had previously decimated an entire robot army in the span of a few seconds), and he reached their tower, climbed up to the top, and defeated them....blindfolded.

He dropped a glass of water from waist height, and then defeated 10 bounty hunters, sheathed his sword, and then picked up the glass before it had even fallen to the ground.

Now is there anything that tops this? oh yeah

That's right ladies and gentlemen it's the water drop scene

Now I know a picture can say a thousand words but how about a video?

This video is the water scene in real time

And holy $h!t is it fast

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=91EBPNFTj34

WEAPON OF CHOICE

His katana, Jacks sword was made by Odin, Ra and Vishnu, this sword can cut clean through any material except arguably other godlike weapons (like Mjonir)

SECONDARY WEAPON

Although he's mainly thought of as a sword fighter Jack is also a master archer having been trained by Robin Hood himself

STAMINA (Oh yeah)

Jack fought for three days straight with his rival the scotman

That's right he can go all weekend long

STRENGH

Jack has super human (or at least meta human) strengh

Jack is shown to be able to cleanly cut through most machines with no effort and can easily throw opponents much larger than himself

In many ways Jack could solo most of the other team but.....For argument sake let's say he can't (he can)

JUMPING (forgot to add this)

He jump good

Kenshin here seens to have been thrown into the same group as katara and Zuko

Maybe it was my fault, maybe I should have spent less time on your chracters and more on my own

SPEED

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ9krnlqPxw

This isn't his best....but it demonstrates his ability to keep up with people that the naked eye cannot see

The chracter he is fighting is arguable thr fastest guy in ruoroni kenshin, and despite Kenshin oath not to kill, and his previous fight moments earlier, he beats the faster fighter, and shows his ability to read opponents...and his best attack

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyx2B7OW39Q

Here's kenshin appearing and disappearing

As you can see thoseeyes kenshin has shown far better speed feats than either lucario or pikachu, and he does so without orders

Strengh

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyx2B7OW39Q

This here isn't Kenshin but instead his master, I know I know it's not a kenshin feat, but it's worth noting that both him and Kenshin are masters of the same form

And that Kenshin once bested his mentor (using the same style) so they are comparable chracters

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wKaccFyBFs

Beyond extreme speed, skill and strengh, kenshin has also demonstrated low level precognition (he could sense aoshi through a door) and is very capable at spotting weaknesses both in form and chracter

He isn't "just a human"

A master of water bending

Katara is capable if manipulating H2O in all its forms, she can make water into ice, ice into steam and steam into...you get the point

Katara is also capable of blood bending....but she isn't keen about it and can only do so on a full moon

(Let's hope it doesn't sync up with her other monthly blood powers eek)

She can also use water to heal allies...you know if she wants...

Zuko is a very underrated character despite his excellent power set

Zuko is capable of manipulating, creating, and even absorbing fire (sort of)

And is also capable of redirecting and diverting lighting

Zuko possess two swords and is quite capable with them

He's essentially the flip side of katara

Garrus is a turian, an ex c-sec officer, and long time friend of commander shepard

An excellent strategist, engineer, sniper....lover (he has good reach don't you know)

Garrus is so efficient he managed to fight three gangs simultaneously

And so skilled he killed three men with a single bullet, technically the third had a heart attack but it counts god dammit

Zuko - red

Jack - White

Katara - blue

Garrus - silver

Kenshin - orange

The crate weighs 3 tons, fortunately I have Jak who has been crushed by a 700 ton sumo and was fine ergo he should be able to lift it

If not katara will freeze underneath it and push it

But where?

Inside the building of course

Ok I lied there will be a little defence

Katara will not be making a ice dome instead she will just freeze the buildings doors Windows etc

But that's it really

Garrus can one shot the crate with his concussive shot and will be attempting such

He will also throw a a Mark 14 grenade at it (pretty much a sticky grenade combined with a discus)

Garrus will be on the floating pad top left

HOW ?

Remeber Jacks jumping feat from earlier? Well......that basically

Zuko will be standing on the building (the one with the crate ) and will be the first of my team to make a move (or a simultaneous first move)

But what move? TBH pretty much any move he does will destroy the crate

But for argument sake he uses a full powered fully charged fireball, usually it would be a bad idea (it may take a while to charge) but I have prep after all

He will fire it straight at the crate then focus souly on defence / offence

If pikachu atracks the building with lightning zuko will redirect it, back St your own

If charizard flys towards it he'll snuff out his tail

Instead of hiding under a dome Katara will be on a full offencive

From the water she gains from the clouds, air, taps...etc

She does this

If pikachu focuses on her that's fine, but it means he won't be able to focus on the rest who are all going to try one shotting the crate

If pikachu doesn't go after her she destroys the crate

These two will both be running for the crate once in range they destroy it with one single slash

Lucario has the best range attack on the board no doubt

Which is why the placements of my team is never more important than here

Jack as shown will be between yours and my crate. I have done this to combat your flash cannon

Flash cannon can be compared to that of a lazer, it's strong, fast and rather accurate

It is however comprised of light, which means like a lazer can be deflected by Jacks sword

Hrs done this on numerous occasions In the show and comics

Also since his sword is indestructible the flash cannon can't destroy his sword

Infact if the flash cannon destroy anything it's most likely your own crate

That's right if you use flash cannon jack will reflect it right back

Pikachus best attack is lightning channeled from the sky

HOWEVER

Since it comes from the sky Zuko (who is on the building that the crate is in) will easily spot, and redirect It

And since you say the electricity is so powerful if he redirects it at your crate then it game over for you

Charizard is in the unique position of being the only member of your team that I could imagine dying before the crate is destroyed

Due to Charizards anatomy Charizards die if there tails are put out

Just saying

My team overwhelms yours, by attacking so many times in so many ways

My team destroys your crate in 5 seconds flat (tops)

If by some miracle that your team manages to stop everything (which I find highly unlikely)

Then they are only delaying the inevitable

None of my team would be dead and all are free for round two

Garrus can take another shot, kenshin and Jack another swing, katara another water tendril, or zuko another volley of fire And the question is how do you defend?

If lucario attacks jack, charizard attacks zuko, and pikachu atracks katara

You still have Garrus and Kenshin to deal with

And If you send pikachu at zuko, charizard at garrus, and lucario to defend against kenshin and Jack

Then katara still gets a clear shot, and actually due to the speed of garrus shot, and the ease of throwing a disc grenade the best you accomplish is killing someone who's already done his job

There is only one way for your crate to survive the first part and that's if pikachu jumps in the way of zukos fireball (whilst somehow electrocuting katara)

Charizard takes the concussive shot, and the grenade

And if lucario (again) attempts to defend against both kenshin AND Jack (although TBH from speed feats shown its doubtful he keeps up with just the one )

But again this only works if all of your team has precognition ( which they dont)

And it would only be executed perfectly if you had a trainer (which you don't)

One of the biggest problems I have with your team is none (besides scarecrow) has any strategic experience

And lucario although has been shown the ability to act by himself, hes never once done so like you are suggesting

My argument is that although you have better range and power, your team realies souly on the actions if one chracter, an action completely out of chracter

And before you say perfect teamwork etc

Perfect teamwork isn't the same as optimum efficiency

All of your team will work together the best they can, but since scarecrow isn't a trainer, since he doesn't know the correct commands, and since he can't talk too pokemon, your perfect teamwork mainly consists of them not killing each other

Fire/Flying type monster from the pokemon universe.

• Fire Manipulation - From fire breathing to raising his body and skin to burning temperatures charizard has many various was of manipulating fire and heat
• Flight - With his powerful wings charizard is able soar across the skys and maneuver around opponents
• Superhuman Strength - With its large build charizard and inhuman body charizard has demonstrated strength to lift tanks and fight other creatures of comparable and even larger size
• Superhuman Speed - Mainly demonstrated when in flight charizard is able to move at mach speeds
• Superhuman Durability - Charizards body is resilient to nearly all types of damage. Able to survive being hit with razor sharp leaf blades, submarine destroying hydro pumps, and even near immunity to lava

Pikachu is a short, chubby rodent Pokémon. It is covered in yellow fur, and its ears are long and pointed with black tips. It has a small mouth, brown eyes, and two red circles on its cheeks. There are pouches inside its cheeks where it stores electricity. He is an electric type pokemon.

• Electricity Manipulation - Various ways of manipulating electricity are shown mainly from pikachus cheeks and body from being able to send lighting bolts to even covering his entire body in electricity
• Weather Manipulation - Able to summon lighting from the clouds
• Superhuman Speed - One of the fastest pokemon pikachu is able to increase its speed to degrees that make it appear to be vanishing and to be appearing in multiple places at once
• Superhuman senses - Pikachu has acute senses mainly with superhuman hearing as he has demonstrated to be able to fight blind and hear things humans cant
• Density manipulation - Primarily only used on his tail pikachu is able to increase the density of his tail to have the consistency of a metal type substance similar to iron (iron tail) that is used for close combat
• Energy manipulation - pikachu can create a copy of himself made out of pure energy and aswell can create objects of energy used for various situations such as breaching through solid walls and taking damage from opponents
• Poison secretion - pikachu can secrete poison from its tail and use it to cause fatal damage to opponents

A fighting/steel type monster from the pokemon universe.

• Martial Arts Master - Lucario is one of the best h2h fighters in the pokemon universe
• Aura/Spirit manipulation - lucario has the ability to manipulate the aura/spirit energy inside and around him for various uses
• Telepathy/super senses - lucario is able to read shifts in the air current and through aura the minds of beings around
• Energy Projection - lucario has the ability to release energy is various ways such as energy beams, melee weapons, and explosives
• Sound manipulation - from the spikes on his hands lucario is able to create ear shattering sounds that cause pain to opponents ears
• Superhuman Speed - Lucario is able to move at speeds that make him appear to vanish and move as a blur to the eye
• Superhuman Strength - able to crush boulders with his fist and amp his own attack power
• Power replication - one of lucarios most unique powers is his ability to replicate opponents powers perfectly with only needing to see it be performed once from the opponent

One of Batmans archenemies. A brilliant enemy who uses fear tactics in various ways to rustle batmans jimmies.

• Fear Gas - Fear Gas is the masterpiece created by The Scarecrow. Obsessed with fear, Scarecrow has created a gas that causes those who breath it in to experience violent and deadly hallucinations. Scarecrow has designed various canisters for this gas to be held in such as straw, and a skull that he carries around with him.
• Scythe - Scarecrow uses a Scythe with his Violent Dancing Technique.
• Scarecrow Mask - Scarecrow wears a mask that protects him from the effects of his own Fear Gas & is also used to scare those with a weak mind.

From across mountain ranges lucario views the surrounding area to see he paths and trees and to see over thousands of pokemon in number who are about to go to war

see the effect and how much electricy thunder punch gives off but yet charizard still tanked it

He's so awesome.....I mean....

Jack has so many things going for him it isn't funny

When he isn't deflecting machine gun fire with just his sword, hes probably fighting a bunch of super archer droids.....blindfolded

At least they aren't capable of taking out armies by themselves...no...wait..

DURABILITY

Jack has survived being crushed by 700 ton sumo wrestler. he has survived an exploding building. and perhaps most impressive Jack has survived falling from space, reentry, and the fall itself

SPEED

Samurai Jack is the fastest person on the board full stop

He isn't just the fastest in terms of running speed, but in terms of reaction speed, and combat speed

Here are some feats

He ran across a field some 300 meters or so in length, dodging arrows from 3 supernaturally - enhanced archers capable of firing thousands of arrows per second each (who had previously decimated an entire robot army in the span of a few seconds), and he reached their tower, climbed up to the top, and defeated them all....blindfolded.

He dropped a glass of water from waist height, and then defeated 10 bounty hunters, sheathed his sword, and then picked up the glass before it had even fallen to the ground.

Now is there anything that tops this? oh yeah

That's right ladies and gentlemen it's the water drop scene

Now I know a picture can say a thousand words but how about a video?

This video is the water scene in real time

And holy $h!t is it fast

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=91EBPNFTj34

WEAPON OF CHOICE

His katana, Jacks sword was made by Odin, Ra and Vishnu, this sword can cut clean through any material except arguably other godlike weapons (like Mjonir)

SECONDARY WEAPON

Although he's mainly thought of as a sword fighter Jack is also a master archer having been trained by Robin Hood himself

STAMINA (Oh yeah)

Jack fought for three days straight with his rival the scotman

That's right he can go all weekend long

STRENGH

Jack has super human (or at least meta human) strengh

Jack is shown to be able to cleanly cut through most machines with no effort, and can easily throw opponents much larger than himself

In many ways Jack could solo most of the other team but.....For argument sake let's say he can't (he can)

JUMPING (forgot to add this)

He jump good

Kenshin here seens to have been thrown into the same group as katara and Zuko

Maybe it was my fault. maybe I should have spent less time on your chracters and more on my own

SPEED

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ9krnlqPxw

This isn't his best....but it demonstrates his ability to keep up with people that the naked eye cannot see

The chracter he is fighting is arguable the fastest guy in ruoroni kenshin universe. and despite Kenshin oath not to kill, and his previous fight moments earlier, he beats the faster fighter. The clip also shows off his ability to read opponents...and his best attack

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyx2B7OW39Q

Here's kenshin appearing and disappearing.

As you can see thoseeyes, kenshin has shown far better speed feats than either lucario or pikachu. and he does so without orders

Strengh

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyx2B7OW39Q

This here isn't Kenshin but instead his master (I know I know it's not a kenshin feat) but it's worth noting that both him and Kenshin are masters of the same form. And that Kenshin once bested his mentor (using the same style) so they are comparable chracters

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wKaccFyBFs

Beyond his extreme speed, skill and strengh. kenshin has also demonstrated low level precognition (he could sense aoshi through a door) and is very capable at spotting weaknesses both in form and chracter

He isn't "just a human"

A master of water bending

Katara is capable if manipulating H2O in all its forms. she can make water into ice. ice into steam. and steam into...you get the point

Katara is also capable of blood bending....but she isn't keen about it. and can only do so on a full moon...

(Let's hope it doesn't sync up with her other monthly blood powers eek)

She can also use water to heal allies...you know if she wants...

Zuko is a firebender (and like it suggests) means he is capable of manipulating. creating. and even absorbing fire (sort of)

And hw is also capable of redirecting and diverting lighting

Zuko possess two swords, and is quite capable with them. Although since he can control fire.....I don't really see them factoring much into this

Garrus is a turian. an ex c-sec officer. and a long time friend of commander shepard.

strategist, engineer, sniper....lover (he has good reach don't you know)

There's a lot more to garrus than his gun.

Garrus is so efficient he managed to fight three gangs simultaneously.

But although there certainly is more to garrus than at first glance. My favourite feat of his, was when killed three men with a single bullet....technically the third had a heart attack but it counts god dammit

Zuko - red

Jack - White

Katara - blue

Garrus - silver

Kenshin - orange

The crate weighs 3 tons. fortunately I have Jak who has numerous strengh feats to suggest he can move it alone.

1) crushed by a 700 ton sumo wrestler. Gets back up seconds later.

2) He can jump above cloud level (strong legs)

3) This

If for whatever reason you beleive Jak can't do so. Then katara will just freeze underneath it and push it inside.

But inside where?

Inside the building of course.

(Ok I lied there will be a little defence)

Katara will not be making an ice dome. (Just making that clear) instead she will be freezing the buildings doors, Windows etc...

Garrus can one shot the crate with his concussive shot. and will be attempting such.

He will also throw a a Mark 14 grenade at it (pretty much a sticky grenade combined with a discus)

Bear in mind Garrus will be on the floating pad top left. He won't be near any other character.

HOW DOES HE GET THERE THOU ?

Well Remeber Jacks jumping feat from earlier? Well......that basically.

Zuko will be standing on the building (the one with the crate ) and will be the first of my team to make a move (or a simultaneous first move)

But what move? TBH pretty much any move he does will destroy the crate. So it isn't overly relevant to pick one.

But for argument sake (to help you imagine) let's say that he uses a full powered, fully charged fireball. usually this would be a bad idea (it may take a while to charge) but I do have have prep time.

The second the fight starts, zuko will fire it straight at the crate. and then he will focus on defence / redirection.

Since zuko is on the building, he is in the perfect position to redirect enemy attacks.

If pikachu uses a thunderbolt on my building, then it will need to go through zuko first. Since zuko can redirect lightning this could prove very bad for TE.

Also If charizard flys towards my building, zuko will snuff out his tail, Killing charizard instantly.

Instead of hiding under a dome. Katara is on the offencive.

Using the water she gains from the clouds, air, taps...etc.

She does this

If pikachu focuses on her that's fine she will probably die. But it also means he won't be able to focus on the rest of my team. The team who are all one shotting the crate.

If pikachu doesn't go after her she destroys the crate herself.

These two will both be running for the crate. once in range they destroy it with a single slash

Lucario has the best range attack on the board no doubt. This is why the placements of my team is never more important than here.

Jack as shown above. will be between yours and my crate. I have done this to combat your flash cannon.

Flash cannon can be compared to that of a lazer. It's strong, fast, and accurate. It is however comprised of light. This means like a lazer can be deflected by Jacks sword. Jak has done this on numerous occasions In both the show and comics. If lucario uses bean cannon he'll do the same here.

Also (worth noting) since his sword is indestructible, the flash cannon can't destroy Jaks sword. Infact if the flash cannon likely to destroy anything it's most likely your own crate. If you use flash cannon jack will reflect it right back at your crate.

Pikachus best attack is lightning channeled from the sky. HOWEVER. Since it comes from the sky Zuko (who is on the building that the crate is in) will easily spot it, and redirect It.

Also if pikachus electricity is anywhere near as powerful as you boast, then when zuko redirects it at your crate its game over for you.

Charizard is in the unique position of being the only member of your team that I could imagine dying before the crate is destroyed.

Due to Charizards anatomy. Charizards die if there tails are put out.

Just saying

My team overwhelms yours by attacking many times. in many ways. from many directions.

If by some miracle that your team manages to stop everything (which I find highly unlikel) Then they are only delaying the inevitable.

None of my team would be dead and all are free for round two. Garrus can take another shot. kenshin and Jack another swing. katara another water tendril. And zuko another volley of fire.

The question is how do you defend against all that ?

If lucario attacks jack. charizard attacks zuko. and pikachu atracks katara. You would still have Garrus and Kenshin to deal with = GAME OVER

If you send pikachu at zuko. Charizard at Garrus. and lucario to defend against kenshin and Jack. Then katara is still open to get a clear shot on your crate. Also due to the speed of Garrus's shot (and the ease of throwing a disc grenade) The best you accomplish is killing someone who's already done his job. = GAME OVER

There is only one way for your crate to survive the first part and this is it.

1) Pikachu jumps in the way of zukos fireball (whilst somehow electrocuting katara)

2)Charizard takes the concussive shot (and the grenade) from Garrus.

3 ) And Lucario (again) attempts to defend against both kenshin. AND Jack (although TBH from speed feats shown its doubtful he keeps up with just the one) the problem with this is that it only works if all of your team has precognition. Which they dont. And it would only be executed perfectly if you had a trainer. Which you don't

The biggest problem with your team is none (besides scarecrow) has any strategic experience. Lucario may have been shown the ability to act by himself on occasion. But hes never once done so like you are suggesting.

My argument is that although you have better range and power. your team realies souly on the actions if one chracter. an action completely out of chracter.

And before you say perfect teamwork etc. Perfect teamwork isn't the same as optimum efficiency. All of your team will work together the best they can. But since scarecrow isn't a trainer. Since he doesn't know the correct commands. And since he can't talk too pokemon. Your perfect teamwork mainly consists of them not killing each other.

Which sadly isn't enough to win.

@sirfizzwhizz said:

@serpinethegreen: I'm going to say if it's shown to be able too, he can.