#1 Posted by whacknasty (5599 posts) - - Show Bio

 The Punisher has been asked by SHIELD to go into the heart of the Mandarin's empire in China to remove the warlord permanently.  Two scenarios... 
 
1 - No prep time. Frank gets teleported into the Mandarin's personal spa area. Due to his high tech arrival, and the Mandarin just about to entertain some of his guests, there are no weapons or rings involved. Just h2h.  Win by incapacitation or death. 
 
2 - Frank has 1 day of prep time, and a pretty detailed map of Mandarin's palace.  Mandarin has a spy in SHIELD that lets him know an assassin is coming within the hour, but not who or what equipment he has.  Frank has some of his advanced arsenal with him (pumpkin bombs and glider, a Doc Ock Adamantium tentacle, his replica Cap Shield, Owl's talons, and Ghost's gauntlets), and the Mandarin has all of his Rings. Win by incapacitation or death, no BFR.  *If I have Frank's advanced tech all screwed up, I'll change it*
 


The mandarin
#2 Posted by angryvigilante (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

First scenario is hard to choose as I know Mandarin is a good martial artist but does he have any feats like the Punisher in H2H combat? I will give it to Frank.
Second would most likely go to Mandarin, I believe he has higher tech and is smarter, but Punisher would have a chance to pull of a win. I say Mandarin 7/10.

#3 Posted by Achilles. (3847 posts) - - Show Bio
  • R1: Frank
  • R2: Mandarin
#4 Posted by Jake Fury (18062 posts) - - Show Bio

The Mandarin will murder Castle and use his skull as his personal toilet.
#5 Posted by angryvigilante (1448 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury: Nope
#6 Posted by Final Arrow (24359 posts) - - Show Bio

R1 Goes to the  Mandarin with little effort the man is a beast in H2H, Frank would go down hard in round one.
     
   

    
 
 
Round two: Harder to call but with all his rings Mandarin may be to much for castle, I say 8 out of 10 times to Mandarin. 

#7 Posted by Jake Fury (18062 posts) - - Show Bio
@angryvigilante:
Yep. 
  
Punisher has no way of harming Mandarin if he's unarmed.
#8 Posted by Jake Fury (18062 posts) - - Show Bio
@Final Arrow said:
"R1 Goes to the  Mandarin with little effort the man is a beast in H2H, Frank would go down hard in round one.
     
   

      Round two: Harder to call but with all his rings Mandarin may be to much for castle, I say 8 out of 10 times to Mandarin.  "

This. Thanks.
#9 Posted by Final Arrow (24359 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury: No worries the Mandarin gets underrated because everyone thinks he is this guy XD  
 

 Sup ma peeeps
#10 Posted by Jake Fury (18062 posts) - - Show Bio
@Final Arrow said:
" @Jake Fury: No worries the Mandarin gets underrated because everyone thinks he is this guy XD  
 

Sup ma peeeps
"

LMAO. You want ramen noodles with that??
#11 Posted by whacknasty (5599 posts) - - Show Bio
@Final Arrow: LOL!! I was trying really hard to not use one of his animated pictures here... 
 
Has Tony ever had any h2h training with Cap or anything like that?  It is very impressive that Mandarin could damage the armor the way he did, but I never thought of Tony as a great martial artist. Wouldn't Frank offer more in a h2h fight than Tony?
#12 Edited by Final Arrow (24359 posts) - - Show Bio
@whacknasty: Yeah Tony has had H2H training with Cap and the Suit provides him with information on his opponent, but I don't think we could count that for the battle above. Tony's suit will make both stronger and faster then a normal human, where Punisher may have better H2H then Tony... The Mandarin used pure skill to get the edge on tony. He also takes a blast from the suit hand in this scan which leads onto the others, the Mandarin is a whole other level compared to Frank and I like Frank but he is just not good enough to take Mandarin in round one.
 
#13 Posted by whacknasty (5599 posts) - - Show Bio
@Final Arrow: Nice scan! Dang it... I didn't want Frank to get super smashed in h2h, but looks like it would happen...lol.
#14 Posted by angryvigilante (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

Stark couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag.

#15 Posted by Tem Borjigin (120 posts) - - Show Bio

Untrue. Stark has beaten a school of sharks underwater unarmored. He's beaten a group of soldiers while he was dying from shrapnel in his heart. He's been repeatedly established as a skilled combatant. 
 
That said, he is nothing compared to the Mandarin, and completely needs the armor to fight him.

#16 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Stark is a decent fighter.
 
Round one is obviously going to consist of Frank being killed.
 
The Second round can obviously go either way if well prepared.

#17 Posted by ComicStooge (11816 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury:
The rings increase his durability and stregth to Super-human levels.
#18 Posted by Tem Borjigin (120 posts) - - Show Bio

Huh? Since when?

#19 Posted by Hoboseid (1022 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury said:
" The Mandarin will murder Castle and use his skull as his personal toilet. "
#20 Posted by entropy_aegis (14120 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury said:
"The Mandarin will murder Castle and use his skull as his personal toilet. "

LOL,the thought amuses me greatly.
#21 Posted by MutenRoshi (851 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Punisher can win this

#22 Posted by U R Sofa King We Todd Did (1125 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury said:
@Final Arrow said:
"R1 Goes to the  Mandarin with little effort the man is a beast in H2H, Frank would go down hard in round one.
     
   

      Round two: Harder to call but with all his rings Mandarin may be to much for castle, I say 8 out of 10 times to Mandarin.  "
This. Thanks.
where is the second fight from 
#23 Edited by katanalauncher (937 posts) - - Show Bio

Mandarin super mega stomp combo

#24 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio
@Achilles. said:
  • R1: Frank
  • R2: Mandarin
#25 Posted by Hoboseid (1022 posts) - - Show Bio

Mandarin

#26 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (7611 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm i think Punisher on 1st because its surprise an Mandarin would be acting a bit cocky to show off an surprised an Mandarin for two only after a long fight where there both hurt bad

#27 Posted by PikminMania (4628 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheCheeseStabber
Round 1: Mandarin wins, he knows who Punisher is and his chi can hurt the Hulk.
 
Round 2: mandarin Stomp. Mandarin basically has the skill set of Heat Wave, Weather Wizard, Captain Cold, The Trickster, The Top, and more.
#28 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Madarin wins both with ease. He has "tremendous skill skill in various Oriental Martial Arts". "without artificial aids he can split wood, cinderblock, or even mild steel". Even without his rings on he "wears equipment which at his mental command can generate a force field around himself that is powerful enough to resist the force of iron mans fists and repulsor rays".

With his rings on his right hand ring finger has a disintegration beam which could disintegrate frank and all his gear.

#29 Posted by grimlock (1571 posts) - - Show Bio

mandarin beats castle in both scenarios

#30 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Spite, Frank dies in a horrible way...
  2. He stands a little chance but still dying...
#31 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
Mandarin
#32 Posted by Emperormeister734 (803 posts) - - Show Bio

@whacknasty: when did this happen?

#33 Posted by whacknasty (5599 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emperormeister734 : I'm not sure really, I don't own the issue(s) where he has this gear. I might guess around the Dark Siege arc though from reading through the end of Frank's bio here on the Vine : /
#34 Posted by THORSON (2300 posts) - - Show Bio

i think mandarin will win all 2.

frank is still a beast in my eyes

#35 Posted by New_World_Order (12337 posts) - - Show Bio

Mandarin.