Frank Castle Vs Marc Spector in a 5 Round (5 Minutes each) MMA fight in the octagon.
standard UFC rules
Punisher Vs Moon Knight (UFC Rules)
you know i think this goes on till unanomous decision(dont know how to spell it) but if i had to say how, i would say knockout
Moon Knight wins
"He's tangled with better fighters and beat themWhat was that suposed to show? Willpower? Moon Knight has plenty of that
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Like daredevil,Bucky, and more
"dreadmaster said:"He's tangled with better fighters and beat themLike daredevil,Bucky, and more"What was that suposed to show? Willpower? Moon Knight has plenty of that
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do you have scans? becuase i do not think that Frank can beat Daredevil or Bucky
Moon Knight is an Ex-Prizefighter so he is an excellent boxer witch is a good advantage in UFC and he's versatile in ALL martial arts especially Hopkido and Savate
"geraldthesloth said:Ill get them later on"dreadmaster said:do you have scans? becuase i do not think that Frank can beat Daredevil or Bucky""He's tangled with better fighters and beat themLike daredevil,Bucky, and more"What was that suposed to show? Willpower? Moon Knight has plenty of that
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but it looks like this one already happened
"Is that classic moon knight?I new this one had happened but i didn't see it finish, didn't know that happened. lol
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"dreadmaster said:yes, without powers i believe"Is that classic moon knight?"I new this one had happened but i didn't see it finish, didn't know that happened. lol
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"If I was going based on both thier profiles I would say MK would win, especially if it's Classic MK. However if we go by showings in comics I have to give the edge to Frank, he has more wins against impressive opponents."yeah, Moon Knight hardly fights anybody worth mentioning, but he has come out on top of some of the more notables
"I am a big MK fan, but the truth is I don't think Marvel really cares about him so they don't give him as much emphasis and don't have him fight that many notable people one on one.His villains in general suck lol."Yeah they never put time in for him, but the villians he's had lately are pretty notable like Taskmaster, was able to get on Stark's nerves, fighting the Thunderbolts,one-on-one with Bullseye, and facing the Zapatas who are really funny, and about to face Toltec and The Punisher
"Mark Specter. Come on. Frank Castle was trained by the U.S. govt. And Specter was previously a lawless merc that killed for money and has been into some knock down drag outs. He has the XP."Frank Castle is also a master of many Martial Arts. Mark Specter was in the CIA and does some boxing...wow...
"Over the course of his life as a U.S. Marine, boxer, mercenary, C.I.A. operative and costumed superhero, Marc Spector has become an expert at commando hand-to-hand combat techniques and various martial arts."
""Over the course of his life as a U.S. Marine, boxer, mercenary, C.I.A. operative and costumed superhero, Marc Spector has become an expert at commando hand-to-hand combat techniques and various martial arts.""
Yet he pisses his pants when bullseye wants to fight hand-to-hand? I don't buy it. Frank has gone up against daredevil and daredevil is far superior to MK in fighting abilities.
In all fairness, that was one showing. Moon Knight has taken on Werewolf by Night (and won) twice...As well as beating Bushmaster (or whatever his name is..*sigh*...so lame) while his legs were broken. Also, like I've stated before, that was the best method. He needed to fake his death so the entire government would stop chasing him and save *in a sense* his friends....Besides, he's kicking ass in Mexico right now.
"In all fairness, that was one showing. Moon Knight has taken on Werewolf by Night (and won) twice...As well as beating Bushmaster (or whatever his name is..*sigh*...so lame) while his legs were broken. Also, like I've stated before, that was the best method. He needed to fake his death so the entire government would stop chasing him and save *in a sense* his friends....Besides, he's kicking ass in Mexico right now."
So he beat two random werewolves that no one cares about and an overweight black man (Bushman btw) that has faught no one but MK? Oh but wait he had razor sharp teeth...
Did he ever fight...like you know a real villain or perhaps another hero?
Punisher has a reason, and if he should be stopped he would have failed his pledge.
Moonknight wouldn't see any gain in this fight except for simple survival.
Punisher wins due to determination.
You mean when they were talking and he impaled him? Right...Cause that was a "fight". The battle between Green Goblin and Swordsman though is entirely different...For some reason beyond me, he was scared out of his mind against GG (yet he took on Venom....*sigh*)...Also, GG VS Swordsman is entirely different since it's a guy who is known for close range combat vs an arial character using projectiles. Point being, I'd like to see Frank in h2h vs Swordsman. Moon Knight did exceptionally well against him.
"You mean when they were talking and he impaled him? Right...Cause that was a "fight". The battle between Green Goblin and Swordsman though is entirely different...For some reason beyond me, he was scared out of his mind against GG (yet he took on Venom....*sigh*)...Also, GG VS Swordsman is entirely different since it's a guy who is known for close range combat vs an arial character using projectiles. Point being, I'd like to see Frank in h2h vs Swordsman. Moon Knight did exceptionally well against him."lol GG freaking crucified swordsman, so how is MK beating him impressive? Oh i see...long range excuse excuse. As for the other encounter...too bad swordsman wasn't fast enough to move before Norman opened a box, pulled out the sword and impaled him...hell how was that not enough time to move?
Swordsman also got owned by union jack close range...so I want to hear your next excuse.
Frank has gone up against daredevil who completely outclasses MK in hand-to-hand. So sorry killing random things like werewolf and fat bushman do not make him a great fighter.
Did you see what Union Jack did to the rest of the team? And how is Green Goblin owning Swordsman in anyway similiar to Moon Knight owning him? They're both entirely different characters with entirely different skill sets. Green Goblin OUTCLASSES Swordsman where-as Moon Knight is at the same level, and look how that went. I'm not going to disagree that Daredevil outclasses Moon Knight in hand to hand, that's a given. Murdock outclasses Frank in that department too. Daredevil has better technique, agility and speed. That's where his advantages lie against Frank, however Frank can counter-act it with his tollerance of pain and strength (which is exactly what Moon Knight has demonstrated as well). We've both agreed Moon Knight has never really been given a chance to go up against more characters because he has a very small fanbase (woot). And it's not an "excuse" i'm giving, I'm address your points with my honest thoughts.
"Did you see what Union Jack did to the rest of the team? And how is Green Goblin owning Swordsman in anyway similiar to Moon Knight owning him? They're both entirely different characters with entirely different skill sets. Green Goblin OUTCLASSES Swordsman where-as Moon Knight is at the same level, and look how that went. I'm not going to disagree that Daredevil outclasses Moon Knight in hand to hand, that's a given. Murdock outclasses Frank in that department too. Daredevil has better technique, agility and speed. That's where his advantages lie against Frank, however Frank can counter-act it with his tollerance of pain and strength (which is exactly what Moon Knight has demonstrated as well). We've both agreed Moon Knight has never really been given a chance to go up against more characters because he has a very small fanbase (woot). And it's not an "excuse" i'm giving, I'm address your points with my honest thoughts. "
I saw bullseye own union jack if thats what your reffering too.
Ok speaking of which...Frank has gone up against bullseye many times also and never ran from him once. I am sorry, but I can't see how MK is going to take frank down in hand-to-hand. There is no evidence to support this, but granted I agree that his smaller fanbase doesn't let him have as many chances to go up against more characters. So i'll give you that.
"k4tzm4n said:"Did you see what Union Jack did to the rest of the team? And how is Green Goblin owning Swordsman in anyway similiar to Moon Knight owning him? They're both entirely different characters with entirely different skill sets. Green Goblin OUTCLASSES Swordsman where-as Moon Knight is at the same level, and look how that went. I'm not going to disagree that Daredevil outclasses Moon Knight in hand to hand, that's a given. Murdock outclasses Frank in that department too. Daredevil has better technique, agility and speed. That's where his advantages lie against Frank, however Frank can counter-act it with his tollerance of pain and strength (which is exactly what Moon Knight has demonstrated as well). We've both agreed Moon Knight has never really been given a chance to go up against more characters because he has a very small fanbase (woot). And it's not an "excuse" i'm giving, I'm address your points with my honest thoughts. "I saw bullseye own union jack if thats what your reffering too.Ok speaking of which...Frank has gone up against bullseye many times also and never ran from him once. I am sorry, but I can't see how MK is going to take frank down in hand-to-hand. There is no evidence to support this, but granted I agree that his smaller fanbase doesn't let him have as many chances to go up against more characters. So i'll give you that."
I'm glad we have reached an agreement on one point, lol.
-Anyway, saying "Bullseye owned Union Jack" is taking it out of context. Jack enttered a room thinking he was safe to rest for a second and he got a knife in the spine...I wouldn't really call that a fair encounter.
-Frank has also been OWNED by Bullseye.
-To be accurate, Moon Knight technically lured Bullseye to his base in order to fake his own death.
-Go a page back, there's a scan of Moon Knight and Punisher going blow for blow (I'd say that's evidence, is it not?)
-I'm only giving Moon Knight a VERY slim majority. I think both are equal on many terms...If Frank was in his prime, he'd be the one taking the majority.
"k4tzm4n said:you know Daredevil hasnt really outclassed them, last time Daredeil and Moon knight fought it ended in a stalemate. that scan from before when Moon Knight fought The Punisher wasn't their only encounter, in another one Frank was going beserk or something like that and Moon Knight had to punch the daylights out of him and Moon Knight has even made Nick Fury run away."You mean when they were talking and he impaled him? Right...Cause that was a "fight". The battle between Green Goblin and Swordsman though is entirely different...For some reason beyond me, he was scared out of his mind against GG (yet he took on Venom....*sigh*)...Also, GG VS Swordsman is entirely different since it's a guy who is known for close range combat vs an arial character using projectiles. Point being, I'd like to see Frank in h2h vs Swordsman. Moon Knight did exceptionally well against him."lol GG freaking crucified swordsman, so how is MK beating him impressive? Oh i see...long range excuse excuse. As for the other encounter...too bad swordsman wasn't fast enough to move before Norman opened a box, pulled out the sword and impaled him...hell how was that not enough time to move?Swordsman also got owned by union jack close range...so I want to hear your next excuse.Frank has gone up against daredevil who completely outclasses MK in hand-to-hand. So sorry killing random things like werewolf and fat bushman do not make him a great fighter."
"Larfleeze said:Thats poor writing honestly and how old was the comic? Did he still have moon powers?"k4tzm4n said:you know Daredevil hasnt really outclassed them, last time Daredeil and Moon knight fought it ended in a stalemate. that scan from before when Moon Knight fought The Punisher wasn't their only encounter, in another one Frank was going beserk or something like that and Moon Knight had to punch the daylights out of him and Moon Knight has even made Nick Fury run away.""You mean when they were talking and he impaled him? Right...Cause that was a "fight". The battle between Green Goblin and Swordsman though is entirely different...For some reason beyond me, he was scared out of his mind against GG (yet he took on Venom....*sigh*)...Also, GG VS Swordsman is entirely different since it's a guy who is known for close range combat vs an arial character using projectiles. Point being, I'd like to see Frank in h2h vs Swordsman. Moon Knight did exceptionally well against him."lol GG freaking crucified swordsman, so how is MK beating him impressive? Oh i see...long range excuse excuse. As for the other encounter...too bad swordsman wasn't fast enough to move before Norman opened a box, pulled out the sword and impaled him...hell how was that not enough time to move?Swordsman also got owned by union jack close range...so I want to hear your next excuse.Frank has gone up against daredevil who completely outclasses MK in hand-to-hand. So sorry killing random things like werewolf and fat bushman do not make him a great fighter."
Daredevil is superior in speed, agility and fighting ability. Strength also...MK's max is 450 lbs, daredevil faught with a barbell that weighed that much as a fighting staff.
This isn't DD vs. MK though so w/e. I still think frank can take MK in a hand-to-hand fight.
"Dread, do you have scans of any of that? I'd love to see it."
i don't have those but i've seen them with my own two eyes, i'll go searching for a little while but i think (and im not sure) that they are in a Moon Knight respect thread in KMC forums, but the one where Moon Knight punched Frank out, i dont really know where i saw it but it was in an issue of Marc Spector:Moon Knight but the DD encounter was in Issue 12of Moon Knight's first run
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