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Prep time?

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#4  Edited By regiebravo

Deadshot.

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i think maybe punisher. he has better hand to hand combat and more exp

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While Deadshot is the better marksman, Punisher would definitely win in H2H. If Punisher can avoid Deadshot and then close the distance, he'll win.

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Floyd 8/10.

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Without prep Deadshot puts a bullet in his eye.

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Floyd:

  • + Better Marksman
  • + Faster
  • + More Durable
  • + More Versatile

Frank:

  • + Stronger
  • + Better In CQC
  • + More tactical

I'd bet on Floyd.

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Floyd:

  • + Better Marksman
  • + Faster
  • + More Durable
  • + More Versatile

Frank:

  • + Stronger
  • + Better In CQC
  • + More tactical

I'd bet on Floyd.

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Frank

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Frank get's his head blown off.

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Deadshot is the barometer of street level characters.

The only characters that should take a strong majority are high street level and above.

Floyd has better sniping feats. Better marksman feats. Better durability. And better gear.

Frank would win a melee fight, but that is not the fight he will have. He will be in character, which means he will use his very high sniping skills to take out Deadshot at range.

And he will die in a sharp shooting match with deadshot.

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may go either way

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Deadshot his hunting some wabbits today it seems. More durable (bulletproof), better marksman and keener senses. All he needs is a glimpse of Frank and it's over.

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Floyd:

  • + Better Marksman
  • + Faster
  • + More Durable
  • + More Versatile

Frank:

  • + Stronger
  • + Better In CQC
  • + More tactical

I'd bet on Floyd.

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More durable. No. Frank wears armor one. Two, He is arguably the toughest guy in Marvel. I also don't think that their is a marksmen feat that Deadshot has that Frank can't replicate. I think they are about equal in terms of marksmanship.

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More durable. No. Frank wears armor one. Two, He is arguably the toughest guy in Marvel.

I know Frank where's armor. It's not up to par with the armor that can tank sniper rifle rounds to the head that Floyd wears.

I also don't think that their is a marksmen feat that Deadshot has that Frank can't replicate. I think they are about equal in terms of marksmanship.

No.

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Floyd for the majority; however, I'd give Punisher 2 or 3 wins in the event that it somehow turns into an H2H encounter.

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Durability is arguable, but no way is Frank a better marksman. And framke definitely isn't bulletproof. Id say deadshot unless it comes down to CQC.

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#25  Edited By Night4345

Deadshot. I don't see this ever ending in a CQC fight considering how good a marksmen both are and the distance they start at.

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@oni_bane said:

@imperfect_cell: Prove it. You gave no evidence at all.

Neither did you. Anyway, what do you count as accuracy? Hitting fast things? Floyd's tagged speedsters. Trick shots? Floyd can ricochet shots from a pole to hit a target he wasn't looking at, shot two entire clips through one bullet hole while blind folded, etc.

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Deadshot for the majority. He's a hair faster IMO, though neither hardly ever misses.

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@ugivemethelulz: Deadshot has a freaking flashlight for an eye, meaning he only has Monovision, whereas Punisher has two eyes and two guns. Let's say Punisher partitions both his eyes for Monovision. This means he can simultaneously aim and shoot both guns at the same time.

Rest in kill Deadshot AKA Will Smithy Jenkins

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@imperfect_cell: Prove it. You gave no evidence at all.

Neither did you. Anyway, what do you count as accuracy? Hitting fast things? Floyd's tagged speedsters. Trick shots? Floyd can ricochet shots from a pole to hit a target he wasn't looking at, shot two entire clips through one bullet hole while blind folded, etc.

I did actually. Frank has tagged speedsters. Scan of blind folded feat? Frank has tagged Spider-man. Frank would of hit a shot from 2 miles away had it not been for Sentry catching the bullet. I didn't say Frank was better then Floyd. I said they are about equal

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@oni_bane said:
@imperfect_cell said:
@oni_bane said:

@imperfect_cell: Prove it. You gave no evidence at all.

Neither did you. Anyway, what do you count as accuracy? Hitting fast things? Floyd's tagged speedsters. Trick shots? Floyd can ricochet shots from a pole to hit a target he wasn't looking at, shot two entire clips through one bullet hole while blind folded, etc.

I did actually. Frank has tagged speedsters. Scan of blind folded feat? Frank has tagged Spider-man. Frank would of hit a shot from 2 miles away had it not been for Sentry catching the bullet. I didn't say Frank was better then Floyd. I said they are about equal

No, you just said:

I also don't think that their is a marksmen feat that Deadshot has that Frank can't replicate. I think they are about equal in terms of marksmanship.

As for the blind-folded feat:

Remembered it wrong, sorry.
Remembered it wrong, sorry.

Show Frank doing shots like this blindfolded.

Tagging Spider-Man isn't much compared to the feat of him tagging a Mach 5 speedster so I don't know why you keep bringing it up. Floyd's tagged & even killed speedsters, however.

His two miles shot isn't that impressive. He had a completely clean shot on him the entire time. Deadshot's done better.

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#35  Edited By Namor_Curry

@oni_bane said:
@imperfect_cell said:

Floyd:

  • + Better Marksman
  • + Faster
  • + More Durable
  • + More Versatile

Frank:

  • + Stronger
  • + Better In CQC
  • + More tactical

I'd bet on Floyd.

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More durable. No. Frank wears armor one. Two, He is arguably the toughest guy in Marvel. I also don't think that their is a marksmen feat that Deadshot has that Frank can't replicate. I think they are about equal in terms of marksmanship.

I agree with this. Except Floyd is the slightly better marksman. Still picking Frank though.

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Floyd for the majority; however, I'd give Punisher 2 or 3 wins in the event that it somehow turns into an H2H encounter.

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@oni_bane said:
@imperfect_cell said:
@oni_bane said:

@imperfect_cell: Prove it. You gave no evidence at all.

Neither did you. Anyway, what do you count as accuracy? Hitting fast things? Floyd's tagged speedsters. Trick shots? Floyd can ricochet shots from a pole to hit a target he wasn't looking at, shot two entire clips through one bullet hole while blind folded, etc.

I did actually. Frank has tagged speedsters. Scan of blind folded feat? Frank has tagged Spider-man. Frank would of hit a shot from 2 miles away had it not been for Sentry catching the bullet. I didn't say Frank was better then Floyd. I said they are about equal

No, you just said:

I also don't think that their is a marksmen feat that Deadshot has that Frank can't replicate. I think they are about equal in terms of marksmanship.

As for the blind-folded feat:

Remembered it wrong, sorry.
Remembered it wrong, sorry.

Show Frank doing shots like this blindfolded.

Tagging Spider-Man isn't much compared to the feat of him tagging a Mach 5 speedster so I don't know why you keep bringing it up. Floyd's tagged & even killed speedsters, however.

His two miles shot isn't that impressive. He had a completely clean shot on him the entire time. Deadshot's done better.

That isn't that impressive. He is shooting a stationary target. Frank tagged Burnout.....

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That is Burnout in motion.

Are you talking about Deadshot and Hummingbird feat?

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#38  Edited By comicace3

@oni_bane said:
@imperfect_cell said:
@oni_bane said:
@imperfect_cell said:
@oni_bane said:

@imperfect_cell: Prove it. You gave no evidence at all.

Neither did you. Anyway, what do you count as accuracy? Hitting fast things? Floyd's tagged speedsters. Trick shots? Floyd can ricochet shots from a pole to hit a target he wasn't looking at, shot two entire clips through one bullet hole while blind folded, etc.

I did actually. Frank has tagged speedsters. Scan of blind folded feat? Frank has tagged Spider-man. Frank would of hit a shot from 2 miles away had it not been for Sentry catching the bullet. I didn't say Frank was better then Floyd. I said they are about equal

No, you just said:

I also don't think that their is a marksmen feat that Deadshot has that Frank can't replicate. I think they are about equal in terms of marksmanship.

As for the blind-folded feat:

Remembered it wrong, sorry.
Remembered it wrong, sorry.

Show Frank doing shots like this blindfolded.

Tagging Spider-Man isn't much compared to the feat of him tagging a Mach 5 speedster so I don't know why you keep bringing it up. Floyd's tagged & even killed speedsters, however.

His two miles shot isn't that impressive. He had a completely clean shot on him the entire time. Deadshot's done better.

That isn't that impressive. He is shooting a stationary target. Frank tagged Burnout.....

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That is Burnout in motion.

Are you talking about Deadshot and Hummingbird feat?

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I would give Floyd an edge in marksmanship but not much. Truthfully I think this fight will come down to strategy. Both men are clearly a great shot, capable of tagging speedsters and other nigh impossible targets. IMHO like many battles where physical stats and skills are so close the stronger mind will prevail,and I have no doubt that frank has him beat in spades when it comes to strategy and military tactics. This will be a very close fight but in the end frank comes out on top.

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@comicace3: He didn't tag him at all. He missed him twice. He just held to a gun under his chin.

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@oni_bane: doesn't matter. Third gunshot would have killed him.. Which wasn't his plan anyway. Better than shooting in the general area until you tag someone.

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@oni_bane: doesn't matter. Third gunshot would have killed him.. Which wasn't his plan anyway. Better than shooting in the general area until you tag someone.

Doesn't matter that the speedster ya'll claim he tagged, he actually missed twice.

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#43  Edited By comicace3

@oni_bane said:
@comicace3 said:

@oni_bane: doesn't matter. Third gunshot would have killed him.. Which wasn't his plan anyway. Better than shooting in the general area until you tag someone.

Doesn't matter that the speedster ya'll claim he tagged, he actually missed twice.

Yeah he did. And judging from the scan you posted of Punisher, he missed a couple of time before he hit Burnout. My point still stands.

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#44  Edited By Oni_Bane

@oni_bane said:
@comicace3 said:

@oni_bane: doesn't matter. Third gunshot would have killed him.. Which wasn't his plan anyway. Better than shooting in the general area until you tag someone.

Doesn't matter that the speedster ya'll claim he tagged, he actually missed twice.

Yeah he did. And judging from the scan you posted of Punisher, he missed a couple of time before he hit Burnout. My point still stands.

Even if you use it as a credible fea for Deadshot, it hasn't out done anything that Frank has done. He is notorious for tagging street levelers.

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@oni_bane said:
@comicace3 said:
@oni_bane said:
@comicace3 said:

@oni_bane: doesn't matter. Third gunshot would have killed him.. Which wasn't his plan anyway. Better than shooting in the general area until you tag someone.

Doesn't matter that the speedster ya'll claim he tagged, he actually missed twice.

Yeah he did. And judging from the scan you posted of Punisher, he missed a couple of time before he hit Burnout. My point still stands.

Even if you use it as a credible fea for Deadshot, it hasn't out done anything that Frank has done. He is notorious for tagging street levelers.

I know. Remember I haven't said anything on who will win. Just wanted to drop some feats to keep the convo going.

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@oni_bane:

"More durable. No. Frank wears armor one. Two, He is arguably the toughest guy in Marvel."

1 He is far far far far far far far far far far from the toughest guy in Marvel.

2 He survived this:

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"I also don't think that their is a marksmen feat that Deadshot has that Frank can't replicate. I think they are about equal in terms of marksmanship."

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"That isn't that impressive. He is shooting a stationary target. Frank tagged Burnout....."

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He has tagged speedsters too
He has tagged speedsters too

All too easy.

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I want to say Frank but I know Floyd's no slouch either. I would need to go back and pull out the collection again.

From the arguments so far the only advantage I really see Deadshot having is the armour.

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And being so accurate he can shoot through a hole the size of a coin... while free falling.

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@username12345: Without hit sighting eye?

....as I see the blindfold scans....

To bad I can only go by the pre-52 version I collected.

Sounds like new may be better.

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@oni_bane:

"More durable. No. Frank wears armor one. Two, He is arguably the toughest guy in Marvel."

1 He is far far far far far far far far far far from the toughest guy in Marvel.

2 He survived this:

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"I also don't think that their is a marksmen feat that Deadshot has that Frank can't replicate. I think they are about equal in terms of marksmanship."

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"That isn't that impressive. He is shooting a stationary target. Frank tagged Burnout....."

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He has tagged speedsters too
He has tagged speedsters too

All too easy.

@comicace3@imperfect_cell:

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Thanks for providing evidence to back your claim.

Frank is far tougher then Deadshot without a doubt. Also he is arguably the toughest guy in Marvel. Characters with HFs don't really count. Although surviving gunshot wounds to the chest is impressive. It isn't as impressive as this...

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First a stab to the chest. Followed by a stab through the arm and a cut to the throat and face. Then he loses an arm and still continues to fight.

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Shoots the finger off a good distance as you can see.

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Hits an in motion Spider-man

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Shoots Spider-man's web shooters after reloading mid-flip and hanging from a flag pole one handed.

Once again. I am not saying Frank is better than Deadshot. Just that they are about equal.