Punisher VS Deadpool (Without healing factor)

I suspect that Punisher would take this but I'm not exactly an expert on either of them so I couldn't say for certain.

@guttridgeb said:

I suspect that Punisher would take this but I'm not exactly an expert on either of them so I couldn't say for certain.

Punisher.

Deadpool.

Well Punisher has already killed Deadpool before in Punisher vs Marvel Universe. In fact, Punisher kills Deadpool repeatedly constantly but since he repeatedly comes back alive, Punisher just has to repeatedly kill him and Deadpool has not once been able to end Punisher's life, even with help from the other zombies (hulk, wolverine, Spiderman, etc).

Deadpool is also an idiot and he's insane.

Deadpool doesn't stand a chance. Punisher takes this 10/10.

@renobjc: Multiple points:

1. Non-616 feats don't apply to 616 battles (Punisher Kills the MU).
2. Deadpool has killed Frank. He did so in Deadpool Kills the MU. It's not worth mentioning, though, because it's not canon.
3. The one time Frank "killed" Deadpool in the 616 universe (via a sniper rifle) was when Deadpool was occupied with Spider-Man. That situation wouldn't apply here in a direct 1v1 scenario.
4. It's worth noting that in the same series, Deadpool beat Frank Castle, even though Frank has various advanced technology on his side. Yes, Frank has indeed bested Deadpool as well, but it was more circumstantial than their more direct battle in 'Suicide Kings.' (once instance was underwater as Deadpool tried to swim away. The other was Deadpool agreed to call off the fight and Frank smashed a TV on his head).
5. You have every right to not like Deadpool. But to think he "doesn't stand a chance" is blatantly disregarding the character's history. Deadpool has enhanced level stats and a more than adequate degree of talent at his disposal. If you'd like to learn more about why he's above useless, I'd be happy to oblige.

@k4tzm4n: Firstly, I don't hate Deadpool.

Punisher is significantly more focused, I should say, than he is. Master strategist and he has stronger firepower. Deadpool isn't even in the right state of mind which is why I said he "doesn't stand a chance". He's too mentally unstable to continue the fight without distractions and without his healing factor, he can't afford to be distracted, definitely not against a seasoned veteran like Punisher.

Deadpool has the advantage in speed and his training in Weapon X and experience as an assassin as well as like you said, natural talent, but Frank Castle kills assassins, terrorists, criminals, etcetc... for a living.

Of course, by no means, am I an expert on either. I'm just a frequent reader of marvel comics and Punisher and Deadpool are in my favorites. I'm sure there is information from my repertoire that I'm missing so if you'd like to, you could fill me in but until then, I stand by my opinion.

@renobjc: Then my apologies for jumping to that conclusion.

There's no disputing that Punisher is more focused most of the time and often has better technology at his disposal, but neither is a factor here.

Per the OP:

Rules/weapons
Both get two pistols and one assault rifle ---- I am not good with guns so you pick, but what ever you pick other character gets the same. Punisher has no Microchip to help he is on his own.
Setting
Fight takes place in an unpolluted NYC.
Bloodlust is on!!!

As you can see, they have equal footing in regards to weaponry. And, Deadpool's sometimes erratic mindset isn't an issue because bloodlust is on. This means both are aiming to kill the other. No funny business, just going for blood.

Oh my apologies. Didn't see the OP.

Anyhow, I'm fairly certain that even with Bloodlust on, Deadpool is still prone to distractions, maybe not so much as to when he is without bloodlust. I mean, logically speaking, you can't just turn off a mental sickness just because you want to kill someone or ,more ambiguously, you want to accomplish a goal.

I would also argue that Punisher has the advantage in his clothing/style/attitude. He can blend in fairly well within a crowd while Deadpool sticks out like a sore thumb. If it comes down to it, a more stealthy style of fighting would take place instead of a gunfight between two blood thirsty men, in which case, the weapons wouldn't really be of any concern to Punisher as much as for Deadpool.

I still see Punisher taking this fight 7/10 but because Deadpool isn't a very predictable person, he would have a chance.

Good fight,,I think punisher could take a slight majority in series of 10. 6/10 IMO

@k4tzm4n: It says Unpolluted, not unpopulated, so i just assumed there wasn't like gaseous contagions or garbage or something irrelevant.

@k4tzm4n: It says Unpolluted, not unpopulated, so i just assumed there wasn't like gaseous contagions or garbage or something irrelevant.

@k4tzm4n: Well, I just assumed the worst when I put that piece out there. So going with unpopulated.

Well, still going back to the whole stealth issue here, Punisher has more stealth feats than Deadpool. It would only take a clip of his assualt rifle to end Deadpool with correct strategic placement and exception aim, both of which Punisher embody.

I definitely agree with you that Deadpool is a more prominent close quarters combatent than Punisher. However, Punisher is extremely muscular, large, powerful, and is quite use to being harmed. He has an extreme amount of pain tolerance. He's been shot with more weapons, been extensively hurt, and survived than I know anyone else in the Marvel Universe to have. So I'd argue that Deadpool's two Katanas aren't of much use. Ofcourse, he could get a lucky slash in and slit his throat or some other vital spot (eyes, heart, spine, etc) but a expert veteran like Punisher is not likely to fall to such a strike as well not likely to be phased by any other attack. He would also disarm Deadpool as soon as he lodges a blade in him. Punisher understands that sacrifices must be made and if it means giving up one of his limbs to kill a insane murderer, he'd be more than happy to oblige.

Punisher is just so focused on his ideals about justice that nothing would phase him and the only way would be instantly kill him or decapitate his limbs in such a way he won't be able to function.