#1 Posted by THORSON (2386 posts) - - Show Bio

hand to hand only

no weapons

no powers

they have 15 minutes to fight

ko or death

who wins?

#2 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6167 posts) - - Show Bio

Is cyclops better than frank in H2H? Doesn't frank have military training?

#3 Posted by New_World_Order (13182 posts) - - Show Bio

Frank Castles

#4 Edited by THUNDERBOLT30 (10467 posts) - - Show Bio

Punisher would definitely beat Cyclops.

Scott's extensively trained and good in H2H but lacks the showings to support HOW good he is. I think he is good enough to get some hits in, but Frank, besides his ruthless nature, is more skilled, more experienced, and more accomplished than Scott in both unarmed and armed combat.

#5 Posted by God_Spawn (37874 posts) - - Show Bio

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

Punisher would definitely beat Cyclops.

Scott's extensively trained and good in H2H but lacks the showings to support HOW good he is. I think he is good enough to get some hits in, but Frank, besides his ruthless nature, is more skilled, more experienced, and more accomplished than Scott in both unarmed and armed combat.

I agree with this. Frank has better unarmed combat feats considering he stared Daken down with one arm....since the other was sliced off and plenty other parts of his body. Ba dump tsh.

The only things I would give Cyclops is agility. Otherwise, I think Frank has usually faced off against more established opponent, is more ruthless, and his damage soak is ridiculous.

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