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@comicstooge said:

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Batman in a tough fight. Whatever Punisher has done, Batman has too and better.

He can't get decapitated better than Frank can. That was one of my favourite parts of Dark Reign.

Didn't that lead to this...abomination?

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That abomination is actually a pretty formidable street leveler.

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#302  Edited By DarthAznable

@darthaznable said:

@comicstooge said:

@darthaznable said:

Batman in a tough fight. Whatever Punisher has done, Batman has too and better.

He can't get decapitated better than Frank can. That was one of my favourite parts of Dark Reign.

Didn't that lead to this...abomination?

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That abomination is actually a pretty formidable street leveler.

Doesn't change how much of an abomination he is.

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@comicstooge said:

@darthaznable said:

@comicstooge said:

@darthaznable said:

Batman in a tough fight. Whatever Punisher has done, Batman has too and better.

He can't get decapitated better than Frank can. That was one of my favourite parts of Dark Reign.

Didn't that lead to this...abomination?

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That abomination is actually a pretty formidable street leveler.

Doesn't change how much of an abomination he is.

I didn't mind it.

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@dogsoldier88: there is no rational way that Batman using real world level gear can take the punishment Frank can dish out. Unfortunately for Punisher fans, Batman is using gear much better than anything made in the real world. His armor can survive explosions that can blast three meter wide holes in white marble, with a bomb detonated in his own hands. His cape is bullet resistant to the point that it can take clips from a gang of monsters.

His cowl took repeat shots from assault rifles fired by Gotham Swat at point blank range. And this was during zero year.

Batman has even deflected bullets with his gauntlets and reacted to gunfire so fast that it would be physically impossible for the human brain to send signals fast enough.

He has dodged sniper fire from behind. The agility feats actually do go on, they just do not get any faster than the no look dodge of a bullet described as moving 1200 meters per second on panel.

As this is peak version of current character, Batman has the stats to win this. He can take the grenades and rockets. And he can dodge and react to projectiles fired well beyond 300 mph.

Batman will go around and use stealth, but he will still win.

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@dogsoldier88: The OP does not have to specify anything of the sort. When such things are not specified, there is a standard template for battles that is used. It's in the Battle Forum Rules. It is not my fault you cannot read the Battle Forum Rules. I know plenty about the Punisher; I would wager I know far more about the Punisher than you do.

Batman slaps him into a coma.

Whomever posts next, without posting a logical explanation to negate this canon example of the Punisher's abilities, is a retarded, partial-birthed idiot.

Warning. There's no call for nonsense like this. Watch how you talk to people.

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#307  Edited By Hollow_Point

@darthaznable said:

Batman in a tough fight. Whatever Punisher has done, Batman has too and better.

He can't get decapitated better than Frank can. That was one of my favourite parts of Dark Reign.

say what?

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@comicstooge said:

@darthaznable said:

Batman in a tough fight. Whatever Punisher has done, Batman has too and better.

He can't get decapitated better than Frank can. That was one of my favourite parts of Dark Reign.

say what?

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He went out like a boss, though.

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@saren: This -

@senglord said:

@dogsoldier88: there is no rational way that Batman using real world level gear can take the punishment Frank can dish out. Unfortunately for Punisher fans, Batman is using gear much better than anything made in the real world. His armor can survive explosions that can blast three meter wide holes in white marble, with a bomb detonated in his own hands. His cape is bullet resistant to the point that it can take clips from a gang of monsters.

His cowl took repeat shots from assault rifles fired by Gotham Swat at point blank range. And this was during zero year.

Batman has even deflected bullets with his gauntlets and reacted to gunfire so fast that it would be physically impossible for the human brain to send signals fast enough.

He has dodged sniper fire from behind. The agility feats actually do go on, they just do not get any faster than the no look dodge of a bullet described as moving 1200 meters per second on panel.

As this is peak version of current character, Batman has the stats to win this. He can take the grenades and rockets. And he can dodge and react to projectiles fired well beyond 300 mph.

Batman will go around and use stealth, but he will still win.

-is a rational answer. This is an answer that I can even agree with, even though I'm arguing for the other guy. To @senglord, I would say that balance those feats with the plenty of showings for Bats where he gets staggered by punches and kicks, and the fact that he exposes half his face with his cowl. I'm not a Bat-fan, but if you can post a scan of Bat tanking a shot from an RPG, then I'll rest my case. The SWAT example is interesting, but SWAT teams don't normally use Baretts (BMG 50's), and not when engaging mid/close range.

And I know the forum rules @saren, that's why I split it 5/10, because both characters use their environment and tactical planning as advantages over their opponents. But, in light of @senglord's post, I'll go as far as 7/10 for Batman. Batman, as I said earlier, has too many resources for a BlackOps vet, using real-world gear and training, to overcome.

And yes, my partial birth comment was over the top. Sorry.

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@dogsoldier88: I use an IPad and comixology. The Swat team unloading on him is in Batman 27. The head cop even suggests the take care to aim for his head. Batman with his cape has survived explosions the leveled the building he was in. It was used in the comic stooge vs wolverine08 CAV for Batman vs Captain America. There are a lot of durability posts for Bats there. Wish I had the issues, and a scanner, and a PC. Lol.

Thanks. First nice thing I have heard on my debating here. And my shortest argument by three pages.

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I would have to go with Punisher on this one, have you seen the new Punisher: War Zone. He takes on the Avengers, even making Ironman admit that he is far smarter and tougher then he ever thought. Punisher also use super villain gear such as goblin gliders, pumpkin boms, wolverine claws, even a Doctor Octopus' arm, he has shown to be quiet proficient with them as well. Also he has no problem killing. Zero. I feel like Punisher is pretty much a moral off Batman that uses guns. I give it to him 7/10.

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batman wins

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*sigh*

Still Batman

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Batman takes him as long as he knows the punisher coming after him, other wise i don't know...

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Punished held Knock off superman aka Sentry. Batman has put down the real superman. Frank is a bad ass truly. But Batman has this.

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Batman slaps him around like a child.

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punisher wins,end of story.

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@hollow_point: @allaithalsaleh: Explain to me,both of you,how?

Because Frank kills, duh. ;)

That doesn't give him the win. :P

When has Bruce ever gone up against someone willing to kill him?

Like almost every damn day.

Yeah, but they're criminals. Frank isn't a criminal, he's a soldier.

Nobody wanted to kill him as well.He was willing to do it and he was far more skilled than Frank.

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#330  Edited By ComicStooge

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@hollow_point: @allaithalsaleh: Explain to me,both of you,how?

Because Frank kills, duh. ;)

That doesn't give him the win. :P

When has Bruce ever gone up against someone willing to kill him?

Like almost every damn day.

Yeah, but they're criminals. Frank isn't a criminal, he's a soldier.

Nobody wanted to kill him as well.He was willing to do it and he was far more skilled than Frank.

NoBody doesn't use guns.

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@hollow_point: @allaithalsaleh: Explain to me,both of you,how?

Because Frank kills, duh. ;)

That doesn't give him the win. :P

When has Bruce ever gone up against someone willing to kill him?

Like almost every damn day.

Yeah, but they're criminals. Frank isn't a criminal, he's a soldier.

Nobody wanted to kill him as well.He was willing to do it and he was far more skilled than Frank.

NoBody doesn't use guns.

Guns don't make that big of a difference.I mean it ain't like Batman has never encountered a guy who uses guns and is willing to shoot him.He can dodge the bullets and counterattack.

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#332  Edited By ComicStooge

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@hollow_point: @allaithalsaleh: Explain to me,both of you,how?

Because Frank kills, duh. ;)

That doesn't give him the win. :P

When has Bruce ever gone up against someone willing to kill him?

Like almost every damn day.

Yeah, but they're criminals. Frank isn't a criminal, he's a soldier.

Nobody wanted to kill him as well.He was willing to do it and he was far more skilled than Frank.

NoBody doesn't use guns.

Guns don't make that big of a difference.I mean it ain't like Batman has never encountered a guy who uses guns and is willing to shoot him.He can dodge the bullets and counterattack.

You know who can't dodge Frank's bullets? Spiderman. Spiderman is faster than Batman and has precog.

You know who got CV Character of the Month? Spiderman. You know who didn't? Batman.

Therefore, Punisher > Spiderman >>> Batman

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Vegeta - It's over 10,000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MY 10,000th POST WAS TO TROLL SOMEONE!

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@hollow_point: @allaithalsaleh: Explain to me,both of you,how?

Because Frank kills, duh. ;)

That doesn't give him the win. :P

When has Bruce ever gone up against someone willing to kill him?

Like almost every damn day.

Yeah, but they're criminals. Frank isn't a criminal, he's a soldier.

Nobody wanted to kill him as well.He was willing to do it and he was far more skilled than Frank.

NoBody doesn't use guns.

Guns don't make that big of a difference.I mean it ain't like Batman has never encountered a guy who uses guns and is willing to shoot him.He can dodge the bullets and counterattack.

You know who can't dodge Frank's bullets? Spiderman. Spiderman is faster than Batman and has precog.

You know who got CV Character of the Month? Spiderman. You know who didn't? Batman.

Therefore, Punisher > Spiderman >>> Batman

Nice logic there.But you know why Batman wins,right? ----------------- Because he's Batman and you know what that means -> Batman >>>>>>>>>>Spider-Man>>>>>>Punisher.

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@tdk_1997 said:

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@hollow_point: @allaithalsaleh: Explain to me,both of you,how?

Because Frank kills, duh. ;)

That doesn't give him the win. :P

When has Bruce ever gone up against someone willing to kill him?

Like almost every damn day.

Yeah, but they're criminals. Frank isn't a criminal, he's a soldier.

Nobody wanted to kill him as well.He was willing to do it and he was far more skilled than Frank.

NoBody doesn't use guns.

Guns don't make that big of a difference.I mean it ain't like Batman has never encountered a guy who uses guns and is willing to shoot him.He can dodge the bullets and counterattack.

You know who can't dodge Frank's bullets? Spiderman. Spiderman is faster than Batman and has precog.

You know who got CV Character of the Month? Spiderman. You know who didn't? Batman.

Therefore, Punisher > Spiderman >>> Batman

Nice logic there.But you know why Batman wins,right? ----------------- Because he's Batman and you know what that means -> Batman >>>>>>>>>>Spider-Man>>>>>>Punisher.

I relent. There's no way I can counter that pure onslaught of flawless debating prowess.

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@hollow_point: @allaithalsaleh: Explain to me,both of you,how?

Because Frank kills, duh. ;)

That doesn't give him the win. :P

When has Bruce ever gone up against someone willing to kill him?

Like almost every damn day.

Yeah, but they're criminals. Frank isn't a criminal, he's a soldier.

Nobody wanted to kill him as well.He was willing to do it and he was far more skilled than Frank.

NoBody doesn't use guns.

Guns don't make that big of a difference.I mean it ain't like Batman has never encountered a guy who uses guns and is willing to shoot him.He can dodge the bullets and counterattack.

You know who can't dodge Frank's bullets? Spiderman. Spiderman is faster than Batman and has precog.

You know who got CV Character of the Month? Spiderman. You know who didn't? Batman.

Therefore, Punisher > Spiderman >>> Batman

Nice logic there.But you know why Batman wins,right? ----------------- Because he's Batman and you know what that means -> Batman >>>>>>>>>>Spider-Man>>>>>>Punisher.

I relent. There's no way I can counter that pure onslaught of flawless debating prowess.

I know,right.That's like my ultimate weapon and the ultimate feat about Batman against whoever you can think of.

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Batman would probably arrest the Punisher. They are like water and oil.

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Punisher's gonna take this in a close fight.

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The Punishing Bat WINS!!!!!!!!

That sounds like a BDSM Star name

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I'll call a Satelment.

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They've fought before and Batman won.

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Well there's always the fact that punisher could just run away and hide under his little rock.

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BATGOD WINS!

PRAISE BE TO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR!!!!

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Batman gets stomped he is probably the worst street level hero next to rorshach. Frank is on a whole other level.

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Needless bump for a mismatch.

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Punisher and it's not even close. Frank kicks Bruce's a&$ all the through gotham city. Punisher is the better fighter coverall. Joker will be by himself after frank is done with bruce

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@zemoftw: Why do you think Frank is above Bruce in hand to hand?