#1 Posted by vegeta (4901 posts) - - Show Bio

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#2 Posted by vegeta (4901 posts) - - Show Bio

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#3 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1861 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean as Phoenix or just Jean?

#4 Posted by vegeta (4901 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"Jean as Phoenix or just Jean?"

jean no pheonix

#5 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1861 posts) - - Show Bio

she loses then.

#6 Posted by vegeta (4901 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"she loses then."

becuz of her psionic daggers?

#7 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1861 posts) - - Show Bio

umm that and other things but ya she would lose

#8 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

I vote Jean. Her Telekinetic powers'll best Psylock and destroy her.

#9 Posted by Darkchild (40542 posts) - - Show Bio

Ill go with Betsy shes so damn good at what she does

#10 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah im going with psylocke because of her new powers.

#11 Posted by vegeta (4901 posts) - - Show Bio

acewasp23 says:

"yeah im going with psylocke because of her new powers."

well if your going with new powers jean as pheonix then

#12 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

lol still psylocke

#13 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

After her resurrection, creator Chris Claremont noted that, in addition to no longer having the use of her own telepathy, Psylocke is immune to all forms of psionic manipulation, even attempts at telepathic communication. This is a result of her brother Jamie's manipulation of the quantum strings that comprise her. She is also immune or at least highly resistant to other psionic-based powers like the Savage Land Mutate Vertigo's disorientation power or Nocturne's mind possessing abilities. Due to Jamie's alterations, Psylocke is also immune to any physical and mental alteration by beings who can radically restructure reality, such as Proteus. She can, however, still be killed in more traditional manners, such as being stabbed or shot. She is also at least partially resistant to magical manipulation. Psylocke is unable to alter or reduce her psychic immunity, or to undo any of the changes made to her by her brother. She also appears to be able to use her telekinesis to render herself invisible.

#14 Posted by vegeta (4901 posts) - - Show Bio

acewasp23 says:

"After her resurrection, creator Chris Claremont noted that, in addition to no longer having the use of her own telepathy, Psylocke is immune to all forms of psionic manipulation, even attempts at telepathic communication. This is a result of her brother Jamie's manipulation of the quantum strings that comprise her. She is also immune or at least highly resistant to other psionic-based powers like the Savage Land Mutate Vertigo's disorientation power or Nocturne's mind possessing abilities. Due to Jamie's alterations, Psylocke is also immune to any physical and mental alteration by beings who can radically restructure reality, such as Proteus. She can, however, still be killed in more traditional manners, such as being stabbed or shot. She is also at least partially resistant to magical manipulation. Psylocke is unable to alter or reduce her psychic immunity, or to undo any of the changes made to her by her brother. She also appears to be able to use her telekinesis to render herself invisible. "

dang

#15 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah she is cheap but still a nice character.

#16 Posted by GambitO (980 posts) - - Show Bio

PSYLOCKE is but quick

better combatant body to body

and she knows much of martial arts

#17 Posted by Francismonille (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Betsy,she's immune to telapathy and her telekinetic power is probably stronger than Jean's after Jamie's increasing

#18 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Even with her upgrade Psylocke TK aint as strong as regular Jean Greys was, it just ain't Jean without the phoenix use to rival Xavier. Psylocke definantly wins the hand to hand battle though and if she can stay alive to dodge all the cars and bolders Jean is going to throw at her she can win. I say Jean wins, there is a reason Phoenix Force chose her.   

#19 Posted by IcePrince_X (4631 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean Grey for me. Her level may even go beyond even the manipulation of Jamie Braddock.
Jean without the Phoenix has defeated Psylocke in the Danger Room before the Legion Quest, she generated two psy-blade in her hands while fighting Elizabeth

#20 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean. She had her TK much longer, and used it in ways that showed a proficiency Psylocke is lacking.

#21 Posted by supertrooper117 (1867 posts) - - Show Bio

jean all the way

#22 Posted by Bladeweaver (382 posts) - - Show Bio

Psylocke wins this one for me. Jean won't go down easy, but in the end Betsy will be too much for her.

#23 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio

I say psylocke too.

When she was first discovered to be alive she lashed out against Bishop using TK and Rachel grey stated that  Psylocke was on a level that not even she could match

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#24 Posted by supertrooper117 (1867 posts) - - Show Bio

if jean grey has phoenix force she will win but without it there is no chance (changed my answer)

#25 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean Grey regular trumps ratchel Grey so Jean still wins, the phoenix force is not nessasary

#26 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio

doubt it

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#27 Posted by spekqj (566 posts) - - Show Bio
acewasp23 said:
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lol still psylocke

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I think you don't know about phoenix's power.
#28 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio

its without phoenix

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#29 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean still wins. Her TK is more refined, and I believe, more powerful. She has years of experience and 1-to-1 training with Xavier.

#30 Posted by VtwinsV (25 posts) - - Show Bio
@pixelized: yah but jean is not rachel right jean is stronger. thats why the phoenix force stays with jean she is the most powerful host of the force, even with out it. Jean is just more gentle than psylocke ,but her mastery covers all the tricks psylocke can do. She can absorb psylockes combat skills mentally and be on level with psylocke.
#31 Posted by lonefang6x6 (422 posts) - - Show Bio
psylocke
#32 Posted by loganreme (1398 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean Grey wins even without the phoenix entity, she is one of the most powerful telepaths on earth :)

#33 Edited by unicorn84 (64 posts) - - Show Bio
Francismonille said:
Betsy,she's immune to telapathy and her telekinetic power is probably stronger than Jean's after Jamie's increasing
OK....If your taking into account Betsy being modified by Jamie---this all happend after Jean became one with the Phoenix inevitably making her the one and true host and technically the same as the phoenix, therfore,  if you want to use  a Jamie enhanced  Psylocke then you have to use a Phoenix enhanced Jean. Regardless of whatever  enhancements Betsy's been trumped up with Jean is living source of psionic energy and is the embodiement of both life and death, past and  present and future, she is the eye of God, she basically brought Galactus into existence before she was physically born, she can null whatever enhancements Jamie placed on his sister.  Jean wins hands down and even without the phoenix she has always been Betsy's superior.  Another exmple, when Psylocke defeated the ShadowKing in Africa she had to trade powers with Jean because Jean was telepathically more capable of housing the Astral Plane locked Shadowking. Psylocke is overrated anyways.
#34 Posted by albanmanson (1800 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean Grey wins..

#35 Posted by Colossus666 (259 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean wins this

#36 Posted by Foreverbbyily (225 posts) - - Show Bio
@unicorn84:
AND JEAN ISNT OVERRATED HUNN LMAO
#37 Posted by Stormultt (5308 posts) - - Show Bio
@unicorn84:
psylocke is far from overrated
#38 Posted by njones5 (234 posts) - - Show Bio

jean is going to win but this is not fair since you are talking about psylocke at the height of her abilities so, you would have to use an amped up jean grey plus jean is more expirienced in her tk and jeans tk came back after the trade with her and psylocke and it was more powerful than before.

#39 Posted by time (4576 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean Grey, Jean actually beat Psylocke without using her powers in the danger room. Jean is more powerful and she can handle her in a fight.

#40 Posted by aranido (19 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean=Omega level mutant. Should I say more :).

#41 Posted by Iampower (87 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean Grey easy.

#42 Edited by dondave (26615 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean