#1 Posted by slacker the hacker (7775 posts) - - Show Bio

No prep

To the death

Fight takes place in a empty Omniverse

Can Protoge copy the GEB

 

 

   

 

VS

 

 

 

 

#2 Posted by Out_of_Space (720 posts) - - Show Bio

Protoge

#3 Posted by TDK_1997 (13726 posts) - - Show Bio

Great Evil Beast wins this

#4 Posted by a88378438 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio


Great Evil Beast = The Presence

and,Protoge = LT

so,i think Protoge wins..

 

because   Presence not 

infinity

   omnipotence    

#5 Posted by Primebonnick (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

GEB

#6 Posted by andre54 (337 posts) - - Show Bio
@a88378438 said:


Great Evil Beast = The Presence

and,Protoge = LT

so,i think Protoge wins..

 

because   Presence not 

infinity

   omnipotence    

what? yes he is lol, he's equal to TOAA and LT <<<<< TOAA = the presence. therefore, protege loses if he's equal to LT because GEB = the presence = TOAA, but if he copies him perfectly then it would be nothing more than a stalemate for protege. not saying that would likely happen though, GEB should win very easily
#7 Posted by weaponxxx (427 posts) - - Show Bio
@andre54 said:
@a88378438 said:


Great Evil Beast = The Presence

and,Protoge = LT

so,i think Protoge wins..

 

because   Presence not 

infinity

   omnipotence    

what? yes he is lol, he's equal to TOAA and LT <<<<< TOAA = the presence. therefore, protege loses if he's equal to LT because GEB = the presence = TOAA, but if he copies him perfectly then it would be nothing more than a stalemate for protege. not saying that would likely happen though, GEB should win very easily
I don't think protege was equal to TOAA, he was only copying the Living Tribunal's power (and only the power of an M-Body at that) once Scathan the Celestial ruled against him the Living Tribunal absorbed Protege unto himself. So LT>>Protege while Presence=Great Evil Beast. Great Evil Beast wins
#8 Posted by ultimatewarrior123 (1374 posts) - - Show Bio

@slacker the hacker: 
 
Yes he can copy GEB 
 
Protege is the ultimate PIS, they were even to lazy to explain why he can not only copy powers, but ability learnt through skill. In fact Scathan beating protege is the only other PIS that exceeds that of protege.
#9 Posted by a88378438 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

this is DC vs MARVEL....i think.....maybe is stalemate

#10 Posted by TheSpiritStalker (1949 posts) - - Show Bio
@andre54 said:
@a88378438 said:


Great Evil Beast = The Presence

and,Protoge = LT

so,i think Protoge wins..

 

because   Presence not 

infinity

   omnipotence    

what? yes he is lol, he's equal to TOAA and LT <<<<< TOAA = the presence. therefore, protege loses if he's equal to LT because GEB = the presence = TOAA, but if he copies him perfectly then it would be nothing more than a stalemate for protege. not saying that would likely happen though, GEB should win very easily
I thought The Original Moniter was the true god of dc
#11 Posted by the darknessss (2750 posts) - - Show Bio
@ultimatewarrior123 said:


                    @slacker the hacker:  Yes he can copy GEB  Protege is the ultimate PIS, they were even to lazy to explain why he can not only copy powers, but ability learnt through skill. In fact Scathan beating protege is the only other PIS that exceeds that of protege.

                   

               

this could be spot on
#12 Posted by ultimatewarrior123 (1374 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSpiritStalker:

 

Don't worry, both marvel and DC have contradictions as to whom there supreme being is.

 

DC: Presence says that he was formed by higher powers or something like that.

 

Marvel: all that is came from Infinite being, yet where does TOAA come form???

 

It is best not to think about it too much.

#13 Posted by Sise-Neg (52 posts) - - Show Bio

Protege wins.  
 
@ultimatewarrior123 said:

@slacker the hacker:  Yes he can copy GEB  Protege is the ultimate PIS, they were even to lazy to explain why he can not only copy powers, but ability learnt through skill. In fact Scathan beating protege is the only other PIS that exceeds that of protege.
Protege surpassed the LT and it stands to reason that Scathan was above the LT as well.

Protege was simply a prelude of what's to come at the end of time, where humanoids/humanity dead & alive will all be "Gods" in their own private infinite universes where they can play with reality as they see fit controlling its beginning and its end. The future of Humanity, as they evolve into greater Mutants, they will then evolve into Eternity, every Human being will be an Eternity unto themselves, and finally, Humanity will command the Cosmos, 
where even the LT and the rest will bow to Humanity. Protege was born as this type of being, which explains why he could do what he did. 
#14 Posted by andre54 (337 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheSpiritStalker said:
@andre54 said:
@a88378438 said:


Great Evil Beast = The Presence

and,Protoge = LT

so,i think Protoge wins..

 

because   Presence not 

infinity

   omnipotence    

what? yes he is lol, he's equal to TOAA and LT <<<<< TOAA = the presence. therefore, protege loses if he's equal to LT because GEB = the presence = TOAA, but if he copies him perfectly then it would be nothing more than a stalemate for protege. not saying that would likely happen though, GEB should win very easily
I thought The Original Moniter was the true god of dc
nope, he's just a watcher of sorts who tried to thwart the evil anti-monitor. from my understanding, the presence created the universe then set it in motion, and 13 billion years ago, krona, one of the natives of Oa(i think) tampered with the universe cuz he was trying to understand how it began and he split it into an infinite number of multiverses and on a moon of Oa, the monitor was born from positive matter(again, not sure about this) and he was the good monitor, and then on Qward, the opposite of Oa, the anti-monitor was born in the anti-matter universe. while both are very powerful, they are still under the presence.
#15 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

unlike the geb, protege's powers where stackable, therefore he was waaaaay above the living tribunal. he stacked all of abstract powers, plus beyonder's plus LT, and the only reason LT was able to absorb him was because of scathan did not approve, and that was basically the writer's decision. also... an m-body or not, it is all the same... basically what an m-body is, is a form in which the entity can be seen from and within the physical plain. having an m-body does not mean it is weaker or stronger without it.

#16 Posted by ultimatewarrior123 (1374 posts) - - Show Bio


@Lance Bastro:

 

No he was not greater than LT, LT's power basically made everybody else's powers irrelevant. I also think that the reason why Protege got beat by Scathan is that he did not have the "Authority" of the LT, and so is "Judgable", but of course that is my brains way of accounting for PIS. They made LT an idiot.

#17 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Bastro said:
unlike the geb, protege's powers where stackable, therefore he was waaaaay above the living tribunal. he stacked all of abstract powers, plus beyonder's plus LT, and the only reason LT was able to absorb him was because of scathan did not approve, and that was basically the writer's decision. also... an m-body or not, it is all the same... basically what an m-body is, is a form in which the entity can be seen from and within the physical plain. having an m-body does not mean it is weaker or stronger without it.

Who is to say that Protege could even comprehend what the GEB powers are? He was able to do so with the LT but GEB is on a whole other level. In this case he is going up against some who has truley Infinate power. As you know, no matter how Powerful someone, in this case the LT, there powers are still just a spec when compared to infinate power, like the GEB has.
 
That story with Protege was also an awful story and in addition not cannon.
#18 Posted by Sise-Neg (52 posts) - - Show Bio
@CapitolPunishment said:
@Lance Bastro said:
unlike the geb, protege's powers where stackable, therefore he was waaaaay above the living tribunal. he stacked all of abstract powers, plus beyonder's plus LT, and the only reason LT was able to absorb him was because of scathan did not approve, and that was basically the writer's decision. also... an m-body or not, it is all the same... basically what an m-body is, is a form in which the entity can be seen from and within the physical plain. having an m-body does not mean it is weaker or stronger without it.

Who is to say that Protege could even comprehend what the GEB powers are? He was able to do so with the LT but GEB is on a whole other level. In this case he is going up against some who has truley Infinate power. As you know, no matter how Powerful someone, in this case the LT, there powers are still just a spec when compared to infinate power, like the GEB has. That story with Protege was also an awful story and in addition not cannon.
What "whole other level"? GEB is half of the Presence, who isn't even the most powerful in DC.  
 
LT is already a higher tier. 
#19 Posted by Jezer (2852 posts) - - Show Bio
@ultimatewarrior123 said:


                   

@TheSpiritStalker:


 


Don't worry, both marvel and DC have contradictions as to whom there supreme being is.


 


DC: Presence says that he was formed by higher powers or something like that.


 


Marvel: all that is came from Infinite being, yet where does TOAA come form???


 


It is best not to think about it too much.



                   

               

Your second to last sentence is not a contradiction, 
as a mortal human being, you're simply assuming that everything has a beginning and an end(because you do).  

Because of that, I'm guessing you can't concieve of something without a beginning, that has always existed.
#20 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sise-Neg said:
@CapitolPunishment said:
@Lance Bastro said:
unlike the geb, protege's powers where stackable, therefore he was waaaaay above the living tribunal. he stacked all of abstract powers, plus beyonder's plus LT, and the only reason LT was able to absorb him was because of scathan did not approve, and that was basically the writer's decision. also... an m-body or not, it is all the same... basically what an m-body is, is a form in which the entity can be seen from and within the physical plain. having an m-body does not mean it is weaker or stronger without it.

Who is to say that Protege could even comprehend what the GEB powers are? He was able to do so with the LT but GEB is on a whole other level. In this case he is going up against some who has truley Infinate power. As you know, no matter how Powerful someone, in this case the LT, there powers are still just a spec when compared to infinate power, like the GEB has. That story with Protege was also an awful story and in addition not cannon.
What "whole other level"? GEB is half of the Presence, who isn't even the most powerful in DC.   LT is already a higher tier. 

Half of infinite is still infinite which why it was a stalmate and also something LT is not. Whoever told you LT is a higher Tier than the presense lied to you, imposter!
#21 Posted by Sise-Neg (52 posts) - - Show Bio
@CapitolPunishment said:
@Sise-Neg said:
@CapitolPunishment said:
@Lance Bastro said:
unlike the geb, protege's powers where stackable, therefore he was waaaaay above the living tribunal. he stacked all of abstract powers, plus beyonder's plus LT, and the only reason LT was able to absorb him was because of scathan did not approve, and that was basically the writer's decision. also... an m-body or not, it is all the same... basically what an m-body is, is a form in which the entity can be seen from and within the physical plain. having an m-body does not mean it is weaker or stronger without it.

Who is to say that Protege could even comprehend what the GEB powers are? He was able to do so with the LT but GEB is on a whole other level. In this case he is going up against some who has truley Infinate power. As you know, no matter how Powerful someone, in this case the LT, there powers are still just a spec when compared to infinate power, like the GEB has. That story with Protege was also an awful story and in addition not cannon.
What "whole other level"? GEB is half of the Presence, who isn't even the most powerful in DC.   LT is already a higher tier. 
Half of infinite is still infinite which why it was a stalmate and also something LT is not. Whoever told you LT is a higher Tier than the presense lied to you, imposter!
The Presence isn't even the most powerful in DCU, that would fall to the Primal Monitor.  
 
And Protege has never showed a limit to the power he's been able to copy so even if GEB was superior to LT it wouldn't matter.
#22 Posted by ultimatewarrior123 (1374 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jezer:

 

No it is a contradiction, everything came from the infinite being who was all ALONE, yet TOAA is supposed to have been around for ever, I can live with the infinite being, being a creation of TOAA, but if that is not the case. It is a fat contradiction.

#23 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2932 posts) - - Show Bio

Protege wins.

#24 Posted by Needlebay (1916 posts) - - Show Bio

GEB.

#25 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

Protege.
#26 Posted by YoggSaron (812 posts) - - Show Bio

To quote CitizenBane.

Protege claimed that he wasn't just equal to the Living Tribunal, but that he was much more powerful, that he was the One Above All. Nowhere did he actually do anything to support this claim, and when he saw that he was outnumbered by the Tribunal, Eternity and the Hawk God, he summoned Mephisto and Malevolence in an attempt to even the odds. (Which begs the question: what kind of idiot summons Mephisto in a fight against the Living Tribunal?)
Nowhere was it shown that the Tribunal or Eternity were intimidated or impressed by his power in any way, the LT called him a child and told him to end his display. The Hawk God knocked him back with a single blast, something that would never happen to the Living Tribunal. He made a lot of noise before getting trapped inside an energy-shield by Scathan. Nowhere did he do anything that the LT or Eternity could not easily do. And he was killed by the LT, which kind of stands at odds with his claim of being superior to the LT. The Tribunal passed judgement on him and he was consumed by the eternal hourglass.

The Evil Beast wins.

#27 Posted by Saren (24349 posts) - - Show Bio

Beast. Curbstomp.

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#28 Posted by CosmosTyrant (477 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultimatewarrior123: Stan Lee-TOAA is the one the created the book you reade of where all of Marvel came from. If he wanted he cod of put, the all of Marvel came's from a Baby going back in time just like Seth Macfarlane did in Family Guy.

#29 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Great Evil Beast

#30 Posted by fondofpacman (567 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultimatewarrior123 said:

@slacker the hacker: Yes he can copy GEB Protege is the ultimate PIS, they were even to lazy to explain why he can not only copy powers, but ability learnt through skill. In fact Scathan beating protege is the only other PIS that exceeds that of protege.

I guess I'm the only one who likes Scathan. I personally though it was cool to see a random, obscure, extradimensional celestial pop in and end everything with a thumbs down, then never show up again. It didn't prove that he was above LT, just above stupid Protege. Celestials are supposed to be mysterious anyway, and they're supposed to be able to, over-time, develop powers almost without limits. Even if his feat was only being important enough for LT to ask for his presence, I dunno, I though it was still cool to see an example of what the upper limits of a celestial's power could be, especially since there are supposedly an infinant number of different universes in the omniverse, you'd think LT had alot of places from which to choose an adviser. So I didn't hate it as much as everyone else, but that's just me, and I'm a guy with Arishem as his avatar.

I thought the dumbest part of the story arc was that Protege was able to get such massive powers through just genetic engineering or whatever.

#31 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Great Evil Beast.

#32 Posted by fondofpacman (567 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: why always the double vote?

#33 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@fondofpacman said:

@jeanroygrant: why always the double vote?

Lol because sometimes i don't read up on the characters first.

#34 Posted by fondofpacman (567 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: heh, fair enough